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Did Marika have something to do with Ranni killing Godwyn?
They'll never answer it, it's basically a way to make the main love interest in the game a dindu.
What is the Greater Will?
Just some god.
What the fuck is Deathblight?
Just some standard Ghibli esque corruption.
What is the Crucible and how does it connect to Misbegotten/ Omens?
It's just a placeholder for the time before.
What’s up with the Dragon Lord and the Giant Fire God?
Just extremely basic opposition for the golden order that were taken care of before the game.
Miquella as a whole
It's basically Godwyn 2.0, being incorruptible too good for the earth. The only thing that might change in the DLC is him being discovered to be secretly evil or a full on "according to keiaku"
 
For our character to actually wear this, they'd need to amputate their leg.
Theoretically, it could of been a weapon worn over whatever armor you had equipped, but I don't think they were really wanting to do that.

Did Marika have something to do with Ranni killing Godwyn?
Marika and Ranni were co-conspirators in Godwyn's death.
 
They'll never answer it, it's basically a way to make the main love interest in the game a dindu.

Just some god.

Just some standard Ghibli esque corruption.

It's just a placeholder for the time before.

Just extremely basic opposition for the golden order that were taken care of before the game.

It's basically Godwyn 2.0, being incorruptible too good for the earth. The only thing that might change in the DLC is him being discovered to be secretly evil or a full on "according to keiaku"
You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
 
They'll never answer it, it's basically a way to make the main love interest in the game a dindu.

Just some god.

Just some standard Ghibli esque corruption.

It's just a placeholder for the time before.

Just extremely basic opposition for the golden order that were taken care of before the game.

It's basically Godwyn 2.0, being incorruptible too good for the earth. The only thing that might change in the DLC is him being discovered to be secretly evil or a full on "according to keiaku"
I’m hoping it’s a DLC like Artorias was where they answer questions, but it’s mostly the fun of people piecing together esoteric bullshit. There’s always cut content in these games and mistranslations, but it’s fun to try to get a handle of the motivations of characters.

Also
>dragon furry
>incorruptable
He’s worse than the Michael Jackson fantasy twink. I’m pretty sure death blight is actually just an STD he got from a Dragon.
 
I’m hoping it’s a DLC like Artorias was where they answer questions, but it’s mostly the fun of people piecing together esoteric bullshit. There’s always cut content in these games and mistranslations, but it’s fun to try to get a handle of the motivations of characters.

Also
>dragon furry
>incorruptable
He’s worse than the Michael Jackson fantasy twink. I’m pretty sure death blight is actually just an STD he got from a Dragon.
I wish people cared about the actual characters in the game rather than GRRM's OC donut steel Nordic pantheon. Godywyn himself is just Baldr, except instead of being immune to all things, GRRM added the rune of death which is a giant plot hole and makes no sense. It is doubly weird because the whole death blight is reminiscent of a mistletoe, like the original plot was having the mistletoe being used to kill him and then the two becoming a corrupted plant man curse.

In general, the whole fight against the Greater Will doesn't make sense in that I'm not sure if it's even a malevolent entity. Unless you go with the bland "all gods are evil", it looks like it made a pretty good place to live (barring Mutants) and every other god in unquestionably worse.
 
In general, the whole fight against the Greater Will doesn't make sense in that I'm not sure if it's even a malevolent entity. Unless you go with the bland "all gods are evil", it looks like it made a pretty good place to live (barring Mutants) and every other god in unquestionably worse.
That is one thing that people don't really acknowledge, the Golden Order did bring order to the land. I think it's mostly redditors that really carry the whole "Golden Order bad!" line of thinking.

We know the Rot God sealed underground isn't good, I'm pretty sure, I think. The Frenzy Flame is pretty dumb when you think about it and short-sighted, The Formless Mother sure doesn't come across as pleasant, or even benign. The serpent that ate Rykard wants to devour the world so it's not really what one might call 'good'. The Gloam-Eyed Queen seems neutral enough, though her followers making clothes out of skinned gods might not be terribly... nice, for lack of a better word. No idea about the Blood Star or the Twin-Headed Deathbird god.
 
I never understood why people were afraid of Malenia that much.
It took me several tries, to figure her patterns, but I managed to beat her.
Why never even try?
I can sympathize with people who give up on the Malenia fight. When I beat her fairly I did so in a way that felt really boring and unenjoyable, almost to the point that I might as well have been cheating, honestly. Blasphemous Blade weapon art spam and summoning the Black Knife Tiche worked but it wasn't a very satisfying victory.

Honestly I'm firmly of the opinion that Malenia needs a nerf of some sort, alter waterfowl dance so it's easier to dodge/interrupt and/or make it so she no longer heals herself when you completely block her attack(s). Really, the fight just sucks as it is now.
 
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I wish people cared about the actual characters in the game rather than GRRM's OC donut steel Nordic pantheon. Godywyn himself is just Baldr, except instead of being immune to all things, GRRM added the rune of death which is a giant plot hole and makes no sense. It is doubly weird because the whole death blight is reminiscent of a mistletoe, like the original plot was having the mistletoe being used to kill him and then the two becoming a corrupted plant man curse.

In general, the whole fight against the Greater Will doesn't make sense in that I'm not sure if it's even a malevolent entity. Unless you go with the bland "all gods are evil", it looks like it made a pretty good place to live (barring Mutants) and every other god in unquestionably worse.

That is one thing that people don't really acknowledge, the Golden Order did bring order to the land. I think it's mostly redditors that really carry the whole "Golden Order bad!" line of thinking.

We know the Rot God sealed underground isn't good, I'm pretty sure, I think. The Frenzy Flame is pretty dumb when you think about it and short-sighted, The Formless Mother sure doesn't come across as pleasant, or even benign. The serpent that ate Rykard wants to devour the world so it's not really what one might call 'good'. The Gloam-Eyed Queen seems neutral enough, though her followers making clothes out of skinned gods might not be terribly... nice, for lack of a better word. No idea about the Blood Star or the Twin-Headed Deathbird god.
The idea that I've heard is that the Greater Will eats people's souls when they die, hence why people view it negatively. I have no idea if this is true or not, and I'd side with Ranni regardless, but it seems more plausible to me that all the deities in the setting are bad in some way rather than all but one of them are bad.
 
I still kinda dislike Ranni over the fact that the Moonlight Sword she presents to us is just a giant frost greatsword.
This is Ranni's Moonlight Greatsword:
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This is Ludwig's Moonlight Greatsword:
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I wish people cared about the actual characters in the game rather than GRRM's OC donut steel Nordic pantheon. Godywyn himself is just Baldr, except instead of being immune to all things, GRRM added the rune of death which is a giant plot hole and makes no sense. It is doubly weird because the whole death blight is reminiscent of a mistletoe, like the original plot was having the mistletoe being used to kill him and then the two becoming a corrupted plant man curse.

In general, the whole fight against the Greater Will doesn't make sense in that I'm not sure if it's even a malevolent entity. Unless you go with the bland "all gods are evil", it looks like it made a pretty good place to live (barring Mutants) and every other god in unquestionably worse.
People will like what they like.
All good stories are inspired by other stories and it's been the case since the dawn of mankind. Also, we know GRRM was involved but we don't know the full extent so let's not attribute everything to him.
The Elden Ring is a collection of concepts, so the Rune of Death (the concept of death) makes sense. If you wish to say it's a plot hole, then you also need to prove your claim, otherwise it's just your opinion (which is wrong).
And finally, on to the topic of Greater Will being evil, I guess this depends entirely on what you consider evil.
Imagine a scenario where your arms and feet are cut off by someone, and that same someone is there to feed you, change you and basically take care of your needs. I guess this someone is benevolent because he takes care of you and in his mind, cutting your arms and feet was a mercy, because otherwise, who would take care of you?
This is the Greater Will.
You are robbed of agency and made a docile obedient cattle, because to it's alien mind, this is the greatest gift it has for humankind.

That is one thing that people don't really acknowledge, the Golden Order did bring order to the land. I think it's mostly redditors that really carry the whole "Golden Order bad!" line of thinking.
Again, this is entirely philosophical. Perfect order is perfect stagnation.
Humans need chaos, or a better word would be turmoil, because through struggle, both as individuals and as groups, we better ourselves.
I don't believe it's a coincidence that the Golden Order paved the way for such a deplorable state of that game world.
I don't know what redditors think, because I don't go there, but I personally view the Golden Order in it's current iteration as something very insidious. This is why my canon ending is The Age of Stars and I'll always simp for Ranni.

I can sympathize with people who give up on the Malenia fight. When I beat her fairly I did so in a way that felt really boring and unenjoyable, almost to the point that I might as well have been cheating, honestly. Blasphemous Blade weapon art spam and summoning the Black Knife Tiche worked but it wasn't a very satisfying victory.

Honestly I'm firmly of the opinion that Malenia needs a nerf of some sort, alter waterfowl dance so it's easier to dodge/interrupt and/or make it so she no longer heals herself when you completely block her attack(s). Really, the fight just sucks as it is now.
If you devised your own build and played your own way, then it should not matter how you achieve victory. You were given tools and you picked those tools yourself and used them appropriately to overcome a challenge.
On the other hand, if you beat her using some meta crap or followed an internet guide, that's homosexually cringe and I can understand not feeling fulfilled by that.
I don't think her fight needs a nerf because I found her very challenging, but not impossible, and she made me try and experiment a bunch of times. No other boss made me do that before.
Maybe I'm old school, but I always do my own builds and I never give up. Even now, if I go on steam forums and I see some nigger asking for help at a boss, I involuntarily cringe because I simply can't understand that mindset.
Why not struggle more? Why seek outside help and rob yourself of that feeling of accomplishment? Why be a faggot with a sign?

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Unlike most people here, I actually beat Malenia many times solo using different strats, and it's impossible to defend this boss. It doesn't matter if you get good at it, it's still an unfathomable miserable experience. All Malenia fanboys are delusional and try hard faggots.

She will forever be in the hall of shame together with Bed of Chaos and the King's pets.
 
@Estate the forum software won't let me quote or reply to you for whatever reason. So I'll just say this, the first time I 'beat' Malenia I cheated by using a trainer, after banging my head against the wall that was her fight for me for hours upon hours. I just wanted it over with at that point.

My second time with that fight I beat her fairly using the Blasphemous Blade and the Black Knife Tiche summon, and this combination would have never occurred to me if I hadn't looked up stuff about the fight online. I enjoyed beating her the second way on some base and primal level, but it wasn't very satisfying to me.

The reason why I say all of this is that the fight just isn't very fun for me. I looked up a guide to Malenia's attack pattern on youtube and when I got to the part that shows you how to either dodge or interrupt waterfowl dance, I didn't feel any joy from the discovery nor did I feel any particular desire to play through the fight using this newfound information. I just felt annoyed more than anything else. Mostly at Fromsoft for making such a difficult fight in the first place. At some point struggling on the same fight just stops being fun or worth it in my opinion, and Malenia reached that point for me.

TL;DR The fight is too hard to be fun, so fuck it. Nerf that shit already From.
 
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I don't believe it's a coincidence that the Golden Order paved the way for such a deplorable state of that game world.
I don't know what redditors think, because I don't go there, but I personally view the Golden Order in it's current iteration as something very insidious. This is why my canon ending is The Age of Stars and I'll always simp for Ranni.
I simply don't agree with the sentiment that the Golden Order was a net negative, as in the beginning it brought order to the land and did allow for different and opposing views and philosophies to exist within it. I also don't disagree that the current Order is stagnating. One might even say, decaying. Shambling along like an undead corpse. The Order's decay started with the death of Godwyn, and things just got worse from there.

All thanks to Ranni and Marika.

Age of Stars isn't an improvement though. By removing the Golden Order a power vacuum is created, one that entirely favors magic. Not a mage? Sucks to be you. A failed mage? To the mines with you. The mages are just as close-minded as the current Golden Order when it comes to accepting new things. See Thop's Barrier. Fate no longer decided by the Outer Will? Sure, hope you like the Stars dictating your fate instead. Then there's all the nasty critters like the Falling star Beasts and Astel-type creatures.

And then there's the Primordial Current. A.K.A. Elden Ring's own Cthulhu shit.

Ranni's ending isn't an improvement, she just changed everything from gold to blue and then flies off.

Oh, and she's partly responsible for basilisks. I hate those little bug-eyed lizard chihuahuas.
 
The Elden Ring is a collection of concepts, so the Rune of Death (the concept of death) makes sense. If you wish to say it's a plot hole, then you also need to prove your claim, otherwise it's just your opinion (which is wrong).
If the rune of death is needed to kill a demigod, then why isn't it required by the player? Did regular people didn't die before it was used? Why does the player can't die even if they are killed by it? If only after its first use then humans/the pantheon were able to die how does that even work? Wouldn't unsealing it be enough to kill people, why are death blades necessary?

All good stories are inspired by other stories and it's been the case since the dawn of mankind. Also, we know GRRM was involved but we don't know the full extent so let's not attribute everything to him.
There is a difference than being inspired by a story and just wholesale lifting shit from mythology.
And finally, on to the topic of Greater Will being evil, I guess this depends entirely on what you consider evil.
Imagine a scenario where your arms and feet are cut off by someone, and that same someone is there to feed you, change you and basically take care of your needs. I guess this someone is benevolent because he takes care of you and in his mind, cutting your arms and feet was a mercy, because otherwise, who would take care of you?
This is the Greater Will.
You are robbed of agency and made a docile obedient cattle, because to it's alien mind, this is the greatest gift it has for humankind.
Is there anything in the game to back this argument?
 
I still kinda dislike Ranni over the fact that the Moonlight Sword she presents to us is just a giant frost greatsword.
Might as well do due diligence and include all the variants for posterity's sake.
I was having trouble finding good screenshots and was considering booting up the games to get good ones but some xitter chump did it for me. I might go through later and get better shots with consistent lighting.
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I kinda think it's cool that the ER version has frost on the crossguard and handle.
 
Might as well do due diligence and include all the variants for posterity's sake.
I was having trouble finding good screenshots and was considering booting up the games to get good ones but some xitter chump did it for me. I might go through later and get better shots with consistent lighting.
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I kinda think it's cool that the ER version has frost on the crossguard and handle.
In terms of appearance: Bloodborne > DS3 > Elden ring > DS1 > Demons souls remake > DS2 > Demon souls
 
In terms of appearance: Bloodborne > DS3 > Elden ring > DS1 > Demons souls remake > DS2 > Demon souls
The DeS remake one looks ok but a bit out of place, like it's from a different game. All the particle effects are neat and flashy but overdesigned and completely out of place. That's kind of how I feel about most of the remake.
The OG DeS one was translucent and I can't tell if the remake version kept that but with all the effects, it hardly matters. If both of the DS2 versions were translucent, they'd look a lot better and less like Skyrim glass swords. Those two look the most like the DeS version.
 
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