Elden Ring

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Radola Gajda said:
Well it was stated in base game eclipse could revive soulless demigods.
And only soulless demigod relevant to story is Godwyn.
And it was heavily implied /stated (can't remember right now if there was something that confirmed it 100%) that one of Miquellas projects was attempt to resurrect Godwyn.
Imo revival of Godwyn is not any more ridiculous than Radahn soul in Mohg body .
But as many other plotlines in fromsoft games this one is going nowhere so it is waste of time to argue and speculate about it.
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Mega Black said:
to say nothing of how lame it is as an explanation for why Radahn and Malenia were at war
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Wouldn't that explain why Radahn and Malenia were warring? Miquella wants an eclipse but Radahn is cockblocking him by holding the stars in place.
 
Gondolindrim said:
Reddit once again thought policing because too many people are critiquing the story. This time about Godwyn.
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Fucking Reddit niggers once again ignoring something like Helphen Steeple pointing to a possible afterlife outside of reincarnation while quoting item descriptions, as if Godwyn needs to be ressurected in his own body. Yeah I'll definitely listen to the Miquella simps who needed to be blatantly told in the DLC the source of the base game item Bewitching Branch's power that he might've been bad, they definitely don't ignore whatever written lore there is to headcanon whatever 'sounds right'.

Can't talk bad about the DLC or else they'll start questioning their preorders and the company that can't do wrong. Don't say things that would've made the DLC a little better like if Miquella confronted Godwyn's soul directly in a last ditch effort to cut off Those Who Live In Death and not worry about hypnotizing that which cannot be bewitched, a sword said that Miquella wanted Godwyn's body dead so CLEARLY his soul has been obliterated in totality.
 
Lizard Machine Bugs said:
That's literally the opposite of what Miquella wanted, he wanted an age of compassion were life, all life, whether fair or foul could thrive. His charm brings out the best in people and allows them to get along better, and his Haligtree was all about granting solace to those rejected by the Erdtree and being nice to them. Moore is literally one of Malenia's kids, a literal Rotkin and Miquella has a place for Moore in his world
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The DLC definitely pushed the mind control shit with some of the NPCs going WTF when it breaks. It's not different than being lobotomized, you are a better person but not through your own choice.
Lizard Machine Bugs said:
Grafting, fused corpses, and human experimentation appears a lot in Elden Ring, Rykard literally becomes part of a serpent, Miriel talks about how all things can be conjoined. Miquella's unalloyed gold, is contrasted to the Golden Order which conjoins other belief systems. The Fire Monks worship of the Fell God and the Worship/study of the Blood Star were both normalized parts of Erdtree society, not to mention the Dragon Cult as well and the Golden Order itself took in Lucarian ideals when Radagon married Marika.
Radagon being Marika also has nothing to do with the malleable flesh of Numen, we're shown a 1:1 parallel with Miquella and Saint Trina, Radagon consists of the parts of herself that Marika deemed ungodly and abandoned and then they re-merged when Radagon married Marika and implemented the Law of Regression.
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It seems pretty clear to me considering the whole plot point is very pointless otherwise and Radagon has some weirdass contradictions in suddenly abandoning his previous wife to become an Elden Lord and that people would have noticed Marika not existing in the decade Radagon sired his children.
Lizard Machine Bugs said:
The Minor Erdtrees grew, Rykard fed himself to that snake and Tanith began leading Volcano Manor, the modern day fundamentalists were formed, Vyke killed two Demigods and seduced a dragon but sealed himself away due to being affected by the Frenzied Flame, the Death-Prince became an object of worship and the Tibia Mariners as well as the Deathbirds returned, the eternal cities were banished and Astel destroyed one.
But that's all I can think of right now.
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That's what, 10 years of plot? 100? And even with that some characters seems to have been in stasis those 2000 years until you arrive, which is my main issue with it.
 
capitalBBustard said:
literally has horns on his arms and legs and uses bloodflame.
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He has a couple tiny horns but his face is completely the same and Mohg was covered in the shit. Makes no sense. ONE bloodflame attack is nothing.
capitalBBustard said:
Miyazaki outright said everything on SotE is based off of shit written by Martin for the base game,
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We still have no idea what any of George's contributions were and I guarantee he has nothing to do with the plot. He wrote the lore. Probably wrote that there was a crusade and Messmer was there, or that Marika came from there.
capitalBBustard said:
Dude, Radahn had a "beloved" pet cat in the 1.0 version of the game. They made it less obvious but he was always just a good dude that adored fighting more than anything who idolized Godfrey.
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Liking a couple of animals doesn't make you kind. He is a gigantic warmonger who adores war and death and violence. Also good job sperging out about headcanon then using cut content yourself you giant faggot.
capitalBBustard said:
who is holding an item called Nanaya's Torch. Then you get to the boss and it's the dude from the painting, talking about Nanaya. Damn, what obscure storytelling. Talking about the thing in the same exact level like two rooms apart.
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Guess I missed the torch but still it is LITERALLY the Zanzibart meme even going so far as to have him say "Forgive me".
Edgy But Dull said:
Wouldn't that explain why Radahn and Malenia were warring? Miquella wants an eclipse but Radahn is cockblocking him by holding the stars in place.
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Yeah, the prevailing theory was that Miquella needed to use the Eclipse to get Godwyn's soul and Radahn had to die because he was cock blocking space itself.
capitalBBustard said:
More cut content was discovered in SotE. Melina was supposed to show up in Shaman Village:
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At least read the thread before you shit it up, retard.
Spirelord: Downfall said:
Fucking Reddit niggers once again ignoring something like Helphen Steeple pointing to a possible afterlife outside of reincarnation while quoting item descriptions, as if Godwyn needs to be ressurected in his own body.
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I figure, it would make sense if Miquella brought back Godwyn but in an unfinished and failed state. At first he appears whole, then maybe when Miquella appears for phase two Godwyn is revealed to actually be puppeted or changed in some way by an outer god or some other force and the whole thing falls apart, maybe he even kills Miquella and we are forced to pick up the pieces?

I don't know. As it stands Godwyn just overall makes more sense. I refuse to believe that Radahn wasn't some kind of last minute decision, especially since the boss fight feels so shitty and barely finished.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
That's what, 10 years of plot? 100? And even with that some characters seems to have been in stasis those 2000 years until you arrive, which is my main issue with it.
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Sorry for the double post but this has always been retarded lol. The Shattering feels like it happened maybe ten years ago. This is clearly another case, like Fallout or Zelda, where game devs just pick a big number of years and don't really think about how quickly things change over a couple hundred years, let alone thousands.

Utterly retarded.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
That's what, 10 years of plot? 100? And even with that some characters seems to have been in stasis those 2000 years until you arrive, which is my main issue with it.
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That's kind of the plot of the game, nothing is happening, everyone is either dead or close to dead, or locked in an eternal stalemate. that's why tarnished were called up.
 
Mega Black said:
He has a couple tiny horns but his face is completely the same and Mohg was covered in the shit. Makes no sense. ONE bloodflame attack is nothing.
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I'm sorry the fantasy game with magic bullshit and talking turtles in hats doesn't accurately portray arbitrary in-universe frankenstein magic. Truly.
Mega Black said:
We still have no idea what any of George's contributions were and I guarantee he has nothing to do with the plot. He wrote the lore. Probably wrote that there was a crusade and Messmer was there, or that Marika came from there.
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Thanks for agreeing.
Mega Black said:
Also good job sperging out about headcanon then using cut content yourself you giant faggot.
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Learn to read.
They made it less obvious
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Mega Black said:
He is a gigantic warmonger who adores war and death and violence.
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Who loves his little horsey. Guess you should stop projecting about headcanon.
Mega Black said:
I missed
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It's easy to miss stuff in a game you didn't play. Shoulda done that instead of reading zanzibartfaggotry. The people that keep spamming that are also just seething retards that don't play the games.
Mega Black said:
At least read the thread before you shit it up, retard.
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You seem really upset by that fucky-wucky, zanzibartbro. Sucks to be you.
Mega Black said:
where game devs just pick a big number of years and don't really think about how quickly things change over a couple hundred years, let alone thousands.
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I'm sorry the fantasy game with magic bullshit and talking turtles in hats doesn't accurately conform to historical passage of time going from antiquity all the way to the space age. Truly.
Incredible Mister said:
That's kind of the plot of the game, nothing is happening, everyone is either dead or close to dead, or locked in an eternal stalemate. that's why tarnished were called up.
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You know what would be better is if everything was already solved 1832 years prior the player appearing in not-Middle-Earth. And then be left with dick all of shit to do in the game. Riveting design. Every boss is Soldier of God, Rick baybee.
 
Incredible Mister said:
That's kind of the plot of the game, nothing is happening, everyone is either dead or close to dead, or locked in an eternal stalemate. that's why tarnished were called up.
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The shattering being 2000 years before is the same level as Bethesda Fallout lore of 200 years after the bombs people are still living in destroyed houses with skeletons on it tho. By that point the stalemate would just result in the land fragmenting in multiple kingdoms and people would start rebuilding the world. Fromsoft wanted to have it's cake and eat it too, they wanted an active civil war between the demigods as a background to the game but also wanted to have their "events long ago in a forgotten past are what moves the narrative" style of storytelling.

Mega Black said:
Sorry for the double post but this has always been retarded lol. The Shattering feels like it happened maybe ten years ago. This is clearly another case, like Fallout or Zelda, where game devs just pick a big number of years and don't really think about how quickly things change over a couple hundred years, let alone thousands.

Utterly retarded.
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Pretty much it feels like the shattering was at best a hundred years ago. Two thousands years of warfare is insane.

Incredible Mister said:
that's why Malenia was at one point an npc and there was a cut Miquella ending, because its all part of the plan.
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Tbf this is not the first time they decide to cut a Divine Twink NPC from the game and the interactions you would have with it. Gwyndolin originally had a more prominent role in DS1 based on unused animations.
 
The dex user is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scrub, no skill, R1 spammer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a dex user and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out"
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
he DLC definitely pushed the mind control shit with some of the NPCs going WTF when it breaks. It's not different than being lobotomized, you are a better person but not through your own choice.
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Yeah, it's mind control, I wasn't disputing that. But Miquella isn't trying to create a world with no feelings, he's basically the exact opposite.
wtfNeedSignUp said:
It seems pretty clear to me considering the whole plot point is very pointless otherwise and Radagon has some weirdass contradictions in suddenly abandoning his previous wife to become an Elden Lord and that people would have noticed Marika not existing in the decade Radagon sired his children.
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It's not a weirdass contradiction, Miriel brings it up as odd and tells you where to investigate, it's something the player is meant to wonder about and it's taken into account when writing his character. Just because something is mysterious does not make it a contradiction. It's not at odd with Radagon as a character, we just didn't have the full picture.
wtfNeedSignUp said:
That's what, 10 years of plot? 100? And even with that some characters seems to have been in stasis those 2000 years until you arrive, which is my main issue with it.
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I looked it up, and I couldn't find the source for 2000 years, but I did find GRRM saying he wrote the history starting 5000 years in the past. Which seems reasonable since the first event we know of in history that wasn't the creation of the universe is Metyr's arrival. So whoever told you that us just full of shit I guess, the Shattering took place and unknown amount of long time ago, not 2000.
 
Coldgrip said:
So what are the odds of another dlc?
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I think this is it.
Love Is Blue said:
The dex user is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scrub, no skill, R1 spammer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a dex user and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out"
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Have I been called out? Yes.

Will I change my ways? No.
 
capitalBBustard said:
You seem really upset by that fucky-wucky, zanzibartbro. Sucks to be you.
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This will be my last time responding to you since you're clearly just trying to shit up every thread you're in.

Kill yourself.
Coldgrip said:
So what are the odds of another dlc?
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Practically zero. Miyazaki has said he doesn't have any interest in another DLC or a sequel though he doesn't want to rule it out completely.

I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see Elden Ring 2 come out sometime in the future, though I have no idea what the plot would entail.
 
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