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I despise Ranni. The way everyone sucks her off drives me crazy.
She has the most fleshed out questline with the most unique ending and best rewards. It isn't like you have much else to go off of in the game. Let's see....

1. Help a sociopathic mass murderer bugchaser create a plague world with his special AIDS variant.
2. Help an antisocial autist who can't even speak establish a rules lawyer version of Order in the world.
3. Help some necrophiliacs create a world of undead.
4. Became chad lord of Chaos because fuck everything (based).
5. Simp for a cutie ghost and run away into the void with her.

GEE I WONDER WHICH OF THESE MOST WOULD APPRECIATE.
 
The character itself and the entourage make no excuse. They know what they have done and the fact that even more needs to be done, that they need to ally themselves with all kinds of people, just so they can achieve their goal.
If you attack her. Unless you do so she's perfectly happy getting away with the disaster she caused.

Her whole thing is a question of if the end justifies the means.
So, like Marika.


1. Help a sociopathic mass murderer bugchaser create a plague world with his special AIDS variant.
You mean the guy who wanted nothing to do with the twink and his super herpes-riddled fujo sister? Who only wound up that way because his backstabbing sister, Ranni, wanted you to kill him?

5. Simp for a puppet and run away into the void with her so she can fuck up another world.
Fixed that for you.
 
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Debating Miyazaki lore is both a pointless endeavor and incredibly fun. The dude himself said he basically thinks of a concept and lets other people come up with the reasoning behind it. There's very little cohesion between plot points so that's why it's purposefully vague. The upside is that in the space between, you can fill whatever schizo theory you want.
With that out of the way, let me bring some counter arguments to your interpretation.
In Elden Ring, we have the concept of Eclipse and there's in-game text that suggests an eclipse can bring a True Death to Godwyn. Also, if you noticed, there's no fucking Sun in that game. The light and whatnot is basically the Erdtree acting as a huge lightbulb. So, we can assume that the Eclipse is meant for the Erdtree.
So, us burning the Erdtree and fucking into space is a form of Eclipse, and since Godwyn in his current state is due to a flaw in the current system, the upheaval of the system and removal of anything that might replace it, should lead to him fizzling out.
Think of it like a bug in software code. You can fix the bug or you can delete the entire code. Both solutions end up with the dissappearance of the bug.
Nice, but I'll offer you a counter point: Replacing the Order with something else or taking it far away from the lands doesn't magically erase the completed result of that "flaw" in the current Order, be it instantly or over time. Godwyn's corpse is one of the many results of the current Golden Order. If you took note of each ending in the base game, nothing changed much. The endings not involving Godwyn's Mending Rune still see his body in the same place, still strung up at the base of the Erdtree.
About the Eclipse concept that could potentially kill Godwyn's body off for good, why is Eclipse Shotel the only weapon in the game that can be buffed with Death Blight AND has the eclipse imagery? That looks like a deliberate association to me that means the Eclipse is associated to his corpse via the half of Rune of Death that was carved into it. If replacing or taking the Order away is a form of Eclipse, isn't that just going to further empower him? Or at least guaranteed his permanent presence on the land and beyond?
 
You mean the guy who wanted nothing to do with the twink and his fujo sister? Who only wound up that way because his backstabbing sister wanted you to kill him?
I thought that was about Dung Eater's ending and not Radahn, guy's a degen who wants to defile everyone's corpses and spread the curse because fuck the Golden Order, no one gets to return to the Erdtree now.

That being said there's a lot of AIDS going around in this setting. Scarlet Rot is aids, Deathblight is canceraids, and Dung Eater's defilement is Monkeypox.
 
What is the flaw in the Order exactly? I must have missed that part. The weird faces in the crypts and secret areas are all Godwyn's Death Corpse growing in the Erdtree's Roots?

That said, I guess I never thought about why Ranni decided to steal the Death Rune and kill Godwyn other than teenage emo angst.

That guy in the video has a really annoying speech impediment. So I didn't listen to it.
 
I got bored again.
I'll delete and start something new. I'm thinking a pure faith build with Lightning.
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Honestly, every time someone says magic is easy mode and that strength is for skilled chads, I want to spit in their mouth.
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Look at this nigger.
I'm face-tanking bosses and only roll out of grabs.
I'm breaking any boss's poise after 1-2 charged heavy and I have a Misericode as a secondary weapon.
Bonk > Bonk > Stab and the fight is over.
Imagine once I have the Dagger Talisman and Royal Knight's Resolve on Misericode.
Absolutely fucking disgusting.

Sorry strength friends, but that shit is too easy and boring for me. I'll go back to being a caster, chucking shit at enemies from afar and rolling on the floor like a retard whenever something gets close enough to melee me.
And no, I'm not playing a Dex build, that's for sissy homos.
 
What is the flaw in the Order exactly? I must have missed that part. The weird faces in the crypts and secret areas are all Godwyn's Death Corpse growing in the Erdtree's Roots?

That said, I guess I never thought about why Ranni decided to steal the Death Rune and kill Godwyn other than teenage emo angst.

That guy in the video has a really annoying speech impediment. So I didn't listen to it.
The flaw is its founding principle that Marika is the one true god and representative of the Greater Will, and her legitimacy as such. First off, she isn't representing the Greater Will as she's never been in contact with them through the fingers. The Two Fingers are deranged and cut off from them. The other thing directly mentioned in Goldmask's questline is the fact that she is Radagon and therefore the god and lord are the same person. In this world a god needs a consort to establish a new Age, as seen by Ranni, Mohg, and Miquella who all want to found new Ages, so while Goldmask may just not like trannies I think the real flaw this is meant to be is that Marika cheated by marrying a part of herself she divested and making him Lord, and this makes her rule flawed or illegitimate.
 
Joseph Anderson got off his fat ass to make a video about the game
I nearly watched all of it and honestly can't say what's his point is. His conclusion is that the DLC is an improvement over the base game but I honestly can't understand how, with a lot of the arguments coming to counter arguments how it's not as bad as people say, or mentioning shit like empty world locations without any elaboration. With the cope of THE DLC WAS RUSHED as if that's a defence.

Personally I think that the multiple reviewers leniency over the game is due to them getting a lot of money for playing it. JA played 50 hours of the base game and then sunk 40 hours into the DLC, no shit he and his ilk thought he got a good bargain for it. Heck pure Stockholm Syndrome takes place at that point.

For me the actual DLC took 9 hours to get to Radahn, followed by 10 hours of grinding scat tree with shitty online guide to beat him. Going into dungeons quickly soured for me as the rewards weren't worth it and it's the same tired gameplay.
 
Like every other From game I ever played (except Sekiro) I got tons of enjoyment out of the gameplay itself and an additional 50 or so hours just collecting and trying shit out.

You speedrun through the game to the end as fast as possible and bitch about it is just lol. You're just a whiney cunt.

What kind of game is ideal to you in this capacity?
 
They need to stop making boss and enemies just attack spam and return to the Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 boss design.
If they do that all the alpha macho gamers that have been glazing fromsoft nonstop will start complaining that they are catering to the casuals and start throwing hissy fits that the new bosses are mickey mouse baby easy mode tourist gaming journalist tier.

Shadow of the sneedtree is natural culmination of a 20 year old design philosophy moving forward. Fromsoft fans keep saying how their games are totally easy and baby mode so fromsoft keeps increasing the difficulty, at the same time they keep defending the shitty multiple decade old combat so fromsoft has no motivation to improve it.

People are looking at demon and dark souls through rose tinted glasses. They were... intresting, 15 years ago because there wasn't much comptention when it came to weighty high commitment melee combat, monster hunter was the only real alternative but it was unrefined and was only on ps2, wii and portables, while also being a lot more arcadey without any lore or worldbuilding, and demon+dark souls were hardcarried by world design, but today? They're just outdated combat wise.

Elden ring is more or less running on a 2 decade year old combat model that fans refuse to admit is shit so fromsoft can't change it, so all they can do is make the bosses harder to make the games feel fresh.

This is also the same reason sekiro (and to a lesser extent bloodborne) ended up irreversibly damaging the franchise.

For the first time in nearly 2 decades, fromsoft designed combat that was more complex than "dodge, dodge, delay dodge, dodge delay dodge twice, dodge dodge, attack once, dodge, dodge, dodge, delay dodge, attack once, dodge, dodgel-" for their non-souls titles.

Naturally people ended up loving both titles, but mainline souls combat is a holy cow, so fromsoft can't change that, and that's how you ended with bloodborne bosses in ds3, sekiro bosses in elden ring and the lolfest that is sneedtree bosses, in games that are really not designed to handle them properly.

I assume everyone at this point has seen or heard of the mallenia mod for sekiro that just throws the boss wholesale into sekiro's combat engine and the whole thing just works perfectly.


At this point I'm just waiting for the shit flinging war between the alpha macho gamers and the super duper mega alpha macho gamers when elden ring 2 or dark souls 4 drops where bosses will consist of an uninterrupted 5 minute cutscene that kills you instantly if you touch it with a 0.5 second opening to do damage.

The way forward for fromsoft is sekiroborne, bloodborne suggested it, and sekiro just confirmed it, unfortunately both titles seem to be completely forgotten by fromsoft.

tl;dr Dark souls bosses were designed for a 15 year old experimental combat model that should have been updated 13 years ago, bloodborne and sekiro were the way forward but nonstop glazing has prevented fromsoft from actually improving the mainline series combat so now they're caught between a rock and a hard place, either reduce difficulty or update combat, neither of which can be done without pissing off all the streamers that do free marketing for them.
Half of the bosses have shitty low-effort cutscenes that fade to black every time a cool transformation is happening,
I was legitimately pissed when Midra's cinematic just cut to black right before the moneyshot, felt completely blueballed like the game bugged out or something.

You don't get credit for a cool setup if you bitch out the last second.
 
Like every other From game I ever played (except Sekiro) I got tons of enjoyment out of the gameplay itself and an additional 50 or so hours just collecting and trying shit out.

You speedrun through the game to the end as fast as possible and bitch about it is just lol. You're just a whiney cunt.

What kind of game is ideal to you in this capacity?
"Why don't you eat the slop you speedrunner?"

Maybe because it's slop? It's not like I even thought I missed something, 7 legacy bosses seemed legit for a DLC and it's not like the game forces you outside the yellowbrick road.
 
I’ve always kind of read the story of Ranni as her manipulating us, the Tarnished, to do her bidding. Given that a really big motif in her area is puppets and she’s no stranger to subterfuge I personally like that view of her quest. A puppet puppeteer.
Also, what’s the general take on the Gloam Eyed Queen? As far as I’m concerned it’s Melania, because frankly what the fuck else do we have to go on.
 
She has the most fleshed out questline with the most unique ending and best rewards. It isn't like you have much else to go off of in the game. Let's see....

1. Help a sociopathic mass murderer bugchaser create a plague world with his special AIDS variant.
2. Help an antisocial autist who can't even speak establish a rules lawyer version of Order in the world.
3. Help some necrophiliacs create a world of undead.
4. Became chad lord of Chaos because fuck everything (based).
5. Simp for a cutie ghost and run away into the void with her.

GEE I WONDER WHICH OF THESE MOST WOULD APPRECIATE.

It's either chaos or undeath for me.

Chaos because fuck everything. Age of Dusk because I support Skeleton rights.
 
I’ve always kind of read the story of Ranni as her manipulating us, the Tarnished, to do her bidding. Given that a really big motif in her area is puppets and she’s no stranger to subterfuge I personally like that view of her quest. A puppet puppeteer.
Hmm.
Hmmmmmm.

The only time Ranni lies to us, is when we first meet and she says it's Renna. Since she's in hiding, I can't even blame her.
Beside that encounter, we are never once lied to.
Even when we ask if she did the Night of Black Knives, she admits.
Do not forget, if doing the Rogier quest, it is us who enter in her employ with ulterior motive. And at the end, we deliver the knife and we get the other half of the cursemark, a simple transaction.
Oh, and the puppet thing, that's Seluvis.

I get that's your interpretation, but I really don't understand how you came to that conclusion.
 
Hmm.
Hmmmmmm.

The only time Ranni lies to us, is when we first meet and she says it's Renna. Since she's in hiding, I can't even blame her.
Beside that encounter, we are never once lied to.
Even when we ask if she did the Night of Black Knives, she admits.
Do not forget, if doing the Rogier quest, it is us who enter in her employ with ulterior motive. And at the end, we deliver the knife and we get the other half of the cursemark, a simple transaction.
Oh, and the puppet thing, that's Seluvis.

I get that's your interpretation, but I really don't understand how you came to that conclusion.
Manipulation comes in many forms, my view is that she is pretty honest but would happily use anyone else to get her way.
In other words, the Tarnished is straight up simping for her and she’s using that fact to further her plans. Kind of a Cerci/Jamie thing but with less incest.
Also, fuck Seluvis that nigga needs to be locked up next to Dungeater.
 
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Manipulation comes in many forms, my view is that she is pretty honest but would happily use anyone else to get her way
I don't know.
Do a service, get paid. Seems like a wagie thing.

I view manipulation as doing something against my own personal interest and in the interest of another. And never have I felt that way about her.

In other words, the Tarnished is straight up simping for her and she’s using that fact to further her plans. Kind of a Cerci/Jamie
I'm trying to think of an example, where one person is both telling the truth and manipulating, but I come up blank. Every question we ask is answered and you can't say she's keeping things from us, because in her miniature form, she talks a lot and always unsolicited.
Anyway, these types of games always were made for personal interpretation, but I was just curios how you got there.

Also, fuck Seluvis that nigga needs to be locked up next to Dungeater.
If I had the means, I would use the character data of Seluvis as a talking point.
Elden Ring is mostly played by men and from what I've seen, very few people give the drink to Nepheli or Ranni.
So, based on available data, you can argue that most males find rape to be repulsive in nature and will stay clear of it.
It's just a pipe dream though, as positivity won't get journo scums any clicks.
 
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