Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.

[SpiderBitch]

As has been commented earlier in the thread, Ellen has no future other than being a prop when a project needs a token pooner or she's paraded around by the TQ+ activists.
She's a decent actress but she'd already been shoehorned into a specific niche due to her physical frame and if she hadn't pooned out, I could see her eventually having to perform child roles a la Shirley Henderson (who is actually an accomplished actress outside of her Moaning Myrtle role) and Page's own performance in Hard Candy. She has utterly, utterly destroyed her body, not just because of the fake abs or the top surgery but also the HRT. Even if she stops taking testosterone, the damage is there. She looks closer and closer to 50 any time a new picture of her gets posted. Only a deepfake AI like what was used for Carrie Fischer in Star Wars after she died would be close enough to "fixing" her visuals, I do not know if AI voices are close enough to emulating believable human speech so they could mimic her vocals, resulting in a computer simulacrum of Ellen that could be pasted onto Elliot in post.
Can she direct actors? Can she write? Is there anything compelling about Ellen Page, much less "Elliot", that could be worth the trouble of dealing with this looney poon?

She's going to Budd Dwyer herself. That or fizzle into obscurity, detransition and make a blazing return by claiming the TQ+ brainwashed her, led her and thousands of others astray and ruined their lives, becoming a role model and figurehead for detrans people.

Maybe she can be a dwarf/hobbit/halfling/lilliputter male in some sorta fantasy

 

[Iron Jaguar]

So how does Ellen's voice sound these days? Does she have the vocal fry of the T-addled Pooner?

 

[catsandsoup]

Ellen Page said they were ok with still playing Vanya as a female which means she is not difficult to work with as far as troons go. It was the show writers' decision to turn the character into a lesbian then transition the character to accomodate Page.

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/netflix/the-umbrella-academy/the-umbrella-academy-elliot-page-will-continue-to-play-vanya-in-season-3-of-the-netflix-series-a180522

She says that, but then again, the showrunner Steve Blackman says she wanted to come out as Ivan on the show. (Of course, he seems like a dickhead himself, so it's Sophies choice which of these two to believe.)

 

[PetiteFeet]

So how does Ellen's voice sound these days? Does she have the vocal fry of the T-addled Pooner?

Yeah. That strange frog voice.

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

Holy shit I didnt realize Season 4 Umbrella Academy was actually out already. They open with Ellen Page allegedly dating every woman in town and running a bar. The camera turns to her and SHE LOOKS LIKE A LITERAL CHILD WITH THE FACE OF A 50 YEAR OLD MAN.

 

[MadDisaster]

Holy shit I didnt realize Season 4 Umbrella Academy was actually out already. They open with Ellen Page allegedly dating every woman in town and running a bar. The camera turns to her and SHE LOOKS LIKE A LITERAL CHILD WITH THE FACE OF A 50 YEAR OLD MAN.

The monkey butler is more believable than that. Kind of obvious that the writers were trying to placate her manly feelings there.

Do you think she'll feel more affirmed in her gender when her face finishes its transition into a wrinkled old ballsack?

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

Yeah. That strange frog voice.

so she talks about her childhood crush on amy zelinski in her book, but not her childhood crush on kate winslet in titanic, but she does talk about becoming friends with leonardo dicaprio and going on a double date with him (and his mother) and his friend Peter? Weird. Maybe it's normal for closeted people in Hollywood but I would find it weird ... like you had to know you were one degree away from your childhood crush while pretending to be into his friend.

 

[Candidae]

Chase is another pooner & her first name was Kate but her real last name was indeed Strangio.

Kate Bachrach Strangio

...That is remarkably more mundane than expected. I was expecting Gertrude or something she could have been mocked for. At worst she would have had to tell people "it's Kate not Katey"
Also Bacharach is a cool name

Yeah. That strange frog voice.

It will never not be funny to me hearing an HSTS immediately answer who their first gay crush was without a second of hesitation. She didn't think twice calling her crushes on women gay. Sure they hide it behind calling it "queer", but we all know what's "queer" about it

 

[RL Steinbeck]

Yeah. That strange frog voice.

I couldn't watch more than a minute or so. It was painfully awkward. I've never seen someone so clearly uncomfortable in their own skin. All of her mannerisms and conversational habits are still so feminine. And she's trying to force a "fun" aloofness, but comes off with all of the lightness of a lead balloon. Never seen a more obviously miserable person trying so desperately to convince themselves they're having a good time.

Edit:
It just dawned on me who she has been reminding me of: Billy Redden, the banjo kid from Deliverance.

 

[Dr. Butt]

i laughed my ass off at all parts where page was supposed to be manly, like how she hardly comes over the counter in a bar she's running and all the men are bikers, or when she tells people twice her size how she would kick their asses.

She's not even believable as a tiny violent crackhead in that scene (in the sense that, that's a type of small person who could kick an ass). There are female actors who could sell "psycho street chihuahua" without a pooning or any butch styling, but even with a team of makeup artists, t injections, and ab implants, Ellen can't even get to "teen boy I cross the street to avoid in case he pushes me into the road".

she does talk about becoming friends with leonardo dicaprio and going on a double date with him (and his mother) and his friend Peter?

That story really sounds more like her and Leo getting double pimped out to people unnamed in her retelling.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Maybe she can be a dwarf/hobbit/halfling/lilliputter male in some sorta fantasy

I still say I want to see her play Conan the Barbarian, or the Arnold role in a remake of Red Sonja, something with a sword the same height as her, or the Punisher and make her run with a Barret .50 anti-material rifle.
Something manly, to show how sucessful her transition is.
But it has to be played straight. Not a hint of comedy.

So how does Ellen's voice sound these days? Does she have the vocal fry of the T-addled Pooner?

Like a wavery voiced frog thats about to burst into tears.
The epitome of Trans Joy.

 

[Phil's Oddly Shaped Head]

I couldn't watch more than a minute or so. It was painfully awkward. I've never seen someone so clearly uncomfortable in their own skin. All of her mannerisms and conversational habits are still so feminine. And she's trying to force a "fun" aloofness, but comes off with all of the lightness of a lead balloon. Never seen a more obviously miserable person trying so desperately to convince themselves they're having a good time.

Edit:
It just dawned on me who she has been reminding me of: Billy Redden, the banjo kid from Deliverance.
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The way she is now all skinny limbs in flapping too-large trousers and long empty shoes, and her withered lil peanut head when it’s beaming with trans joy reminds of me of one of these little fellas -


(Working children in Victorian/Edwardian England)

 

[Procrastinhater]

The way she is now all skinny limbs in flapping too-large trousers and long empty shoes, and her withered lil peanut head when it’s beaming with trans joy reminds of me of one of these little fellas -

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(Working children in Victorian/Edwardian England)

Always rough seeing that old footage of those kids from the turn of the Century, knowing they have the Western Front and a fucking Apocalypse War, all the hell of the trenches just ten years in their future.
I wonder how many of those kids made it back from France.

 

[Smug Cat]

Yeah. That strange frog voice.

She's literally every pooner stereotype turned up to 11
Well, except her pooner name doesn't end with ayden

 

[Dr. Butt]

something with a sword the same height as her

"That thing was too frog-voiced to be called a man. Too tiny, too painfully thin, too dessicated yet watery-eyed. It was more like a large chunk of yeeted teet."

 

[ATI Escapee]

It sounds like she is in pain trying to speak. God. I know she did this to herself, but I also cannot divorce the feeling that she was a victim of childhood and hollywood fuckery who hadno chance and empathizing with her graspong at straws. She looks so young while also being older than I am, and I think my brain subconciously wants to protect the child it thinks it sees while being utterly repulsed to the point of near anger at the path she took herself down. Geeze. The worst of it is that she is, in a way, 'making it okay' for young girls to also follow this path and destroy themselves. That is unforgivable imo. I cant wait for this trend to end. It isnt like getting facial piercings when you are 17, becayse fuck you mom thats why, where you can remove them when 23 and barely have any permanent consequences. This is destroying people

 

[MadDisaster]

She's not even believable as a tiny violent crackhead in that scene (in the sense that, that's a type of small person who could kick an ass). There are female actors who could sell "psycho street chihuahua" without a pooning or any butch styling, but even with a team of makeup artists, t injections, and ab implants, Ellen can't even get to "teen boy I cross the street to avoid in case he pushes me into the road".

She couldn't even manage a convincing roller derby girl, let's be real. Her problem there is that she has never had an energy as an actor (or as a person). She did okay as a more cerebral character, or a normal, kind of passive girl. But even before cutting herself to bits, she never projected any kind of energy like you'd see in the "psycho chihuahua" type.

She's never going to be Joe Pesci, or even a regular actress in an action role. The more she withers, the harder it will be for her to catch a role that isn't "mostly dead".

 

[Chan the Wizard]

She was so bad in the last season of Umbrella Academy. Her frog voice and the forced machoism even though she looks like a tiny old lady with a bad haircut was embarrassing to watch.
Did they think they were helping her or was it all a joke on her? Both seemed plausible.

 

[Sunshine Annie]

Idk, I thought she did alright in Hard Candy, but although her character did perform some physical feats, she did mostly use torture and drugs to control her target...

As for Umbrella Academy, they should have just junked it when she stopped being Ellen. Like, if to call a trans person by their birth name is to "dead name" them, then why not treat it like that person has died? If one of your actors is that important to the story and they die, then surely in those circumstances it's normal to cancel the whole thing?

Still can't shake the feeling she's like this largely due to the kind of roles she was in at a young age.

ETA. Perhaps directors working with ftm actors that are very tiny for men, but supposed to be macho and fighty, could see how professional wrestlers sell the matches between giants and smaller wrestlers.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

That story really sounds more like her and Leo getting double pimped out to people unnamed in her retelling.

The idea of a 40 (?) year old, famous, man still getting pimped out by his mother is not one I can wrap my brain around, even though I know someone like Wendy Napoles will be doing that if she still can and Hollywood would be the place to do it if it can be done anywhere.

Imelda Staunton, 5 ft tall, is in a production of Hello Dolly in London at the moment and they've cast a bunch of height-appropriate short people to star alongside her. If they can do that for a musical they can do it for action sequences ... but they were screwed by having previously cast a range of heights like 6 ft tall Robert Sheehan for Umbrella Academy, there was no chance.