Inactive Elliot Rodger - The Supreme Gentleman

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(btw it's so nice to see Marvin and ABL outside of discussion. We've come so far.)
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Sorry you don't see me more, I'm gonna make an effort to be a part of the wider community.

From what I can see, poor little Elliot was absolutely goddamned insane. His sheer narcissism and entitlement is leagues above even the most dedicated loveshy sperg I've ever seen. He had every possible tool that could make a fuck quest easier, but he firmly believed he shouldn't even have to quest in the first place. He really seemed to believe one of those "hot sorority girls" was supposed to come introduce herself to him and say she wanted to fuck him and only him every day for the rest of his life.

By the way, on the subject of vapid sorority girls... excellent standards there Elliot, way to let the "chads" you hate so much determine how your worth is defined without even struggling; any man with half a brain wouldn't touch that slagfest with a 10-foot penis pole. But I guess it was too difficult to figure out a new standard for which girls are worth your time and which ones aren't - TV says the hot blond with fake tits is the most desirable girl! Who are any of us to ask questions or think?

Black Sonichu: Spending time with a girl you like and are forming a relationship with is not the same thing as "paying" for sex. If you are with a girl and that is the impression you feel, you need to step back and examine why you feel that way. Some girls are bullshitters, sure, but then again almost all loveshies are.
 
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Maybe late to the party, but I just skimmed through his manifesto, looking for some kind of catalyst to yesterday's events. It just seemed to be the buildup of little things before he had a shitty night a year or so ago. There was some party where he got drunk, insulted some girls in some attempt to neg them maybe I guess, tried to push them off a 10-foot ledge when they insulted him back, failed, and got pushed off himself by some of the guys there.

It's the damnedest thing. It reads so much like a rich emo tween's diary (featuring such highlights -paraphrased for brevity- as "My dad and stepmom took me to Morocco for 8 weeks one summer OH NO" , "I was so drunk I must have lost my Gucci sunglasses", and "I was going to get my revenge on April 26th, but I had a cold.") it's actually laughable in a scoff and cringe kind of way.

Also notable is how there was absolutely no active approach to getting a girlfriend taken during the course of his life. It was always "maybe I'll work out and a girl will like me" or "I have to get rich somehow...chicks dig that." When there was actually a girl he was given the option to interact with like a human, which was a few times in his life, he looked them up on facebook, deemed they were too popular and bitchy to consider getting to know, and blamed them for being bitches.
 
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Hellblazer said:
The "you're always paying for sex" argument is stupid, misogynistic, and immature.
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How come the loveshies never acknowledge the inverse argument - that women must be using sex to pay for dates/gifts/faked affection/whatever? If a loveshy thinks he's just paying for sex, why does he presume he's the one getting a raw deal?
 
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Alec Benson Leary said:
How come the loveshies never acknowledge the inverse argument - that women must be using sex to pay for dates/gifts/faked affection/whatever? If a loveshy thinks he's just paying for sex, why does he presume he's the one getting a raw deal?
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Because they hold the hilarious double-think that all women are sluts while simultaneously being mad at them for not putting out.
 
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Alec Benson Leary said:
How come the loveshies never acknowledge the inverse argument - that women must be using sex to pay for dates/gifts/faked affection/whatever? If a loveshy thinks he's just paying for sex, why does he presume he's the one getting a raw deal?
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That would require some semblance of an effort to see the world from another person's point of view. Also to see women as more than sex dispensing machines.
 
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no dude. not always.
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Well, most guys are gonna spend at least a little $ in order to get into a chick's pants. The difference is that paying for sex directly is inherently riskier, for various reasons.

I had a discussion with a friend on dating vs. prostitution, actually. He had a rather interesting viewpoint, saying that no matter what, you're still paying for sex in some manner. Of course, this is a guy who will fuck anything, rubbers optional (aka he doesn't use them anymore).

Alec Benson Leary said:
Sorry you don't see me more, I'm gonna make an effort to be a part of the wider community.

From what I can see, poor little Elliot was absolutely goddamned insane. His sheer narcissism and entitlement is leagues above even the most dedicated loveshy sperg I've ever seen. He had every possible tool that could make a fuck quest easier, but he firmly believed he shouldn't even have to quest in the first place. He really seemed to believe one of those "hot sorority girls" was supposed to come introduce herself to him and say she wanted to fuck him and only him every day for the rest of his life.

By the way, on the subject of vapid sorority girls... excellent standards there Elliot, way to let the "chads" you hate so much determine how your worth is defined without even struggling; any man with half a brain wouldn't touch that slagfest with a 10-foot penis pole. But I guess it was too difficult to figure out a new standard for which girls are worth your time and which ones aren't - TV says the hot blond with fake tits is the most desirable girl! Who are any of us to ask questions or think?

Black Sonichu: Spending time with a girl you like and are forming a relationship with is not the same thing as "paying" for sex. If you are with a girl and that is the impression you feel, you need to step back and examine why you feel that way. Some girls are bullshitters, sure, but then again almost all loveshies are.
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I must say I don't understand the whole obsession with sorority girls either. I mean, come on, what kind of guys do you think they'll bang? Of course, our favorite Chad wannabe would get mad that she slept with hundreds of Chads before him and all that. Who really knows what would have happened if he was able to land one?

I've never scored with a "hot sorority blonde" and have zero plans to. Honestly I don't even like blondes.

Forming a relationship often takes money as well, at least here in America. I'm not sure about other countries, but every attempt at a relationship I've made, I've paid for the date. That's what I meant, it takes money, maybe not much, unless you chase gold diggers. I've never met one, nor do I plan to.

That being said, most of those I've dated are bullshitters, but we were both in our late teens and early twenties.

Hellblazer said:
That would require some semblance of an effort to see the world from another person's point of view. Also to see women as more than sex dispensing machines.
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What? But I've already put 497 kindness tokens into this girl! Three more and I *might* have her acknowledge that I exist!
 
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Golly said:
Maybe late to the party, but I just skimmed through his manifesto, looking for some kind of catalyst to yesterday's events. It just seemed to be the buildup of little things before he had a shitty night a year or so ago. There was some party where he got drunk, insulted some girls in some attempt to neg them maybe I guess, tried to push them off a 10-foot ledge when they insulted him back, failed, and got pushed off himself by some of the guys there.

It's the damnedest thing. It reads so much like a rich emo tween's diary (featuring such highlights -paraphrased for brevity- as "My dad and stepmom took me to Morocco for 8 weeks one summer OH NO" , "I was so drunk I must have lost my Gucci sunglasses", and "I was going to get my revenge on April 26th, but I had a cold.") it's actually laughable in a scoff and cringe kind of way.

Also notable is how there was absolutely no active approach to getting a girlfriend taken during the course of his life. It was always "maybe I'll work out and a girl will like me" or "I have to get rich somehow...chicks dig that." When there was actually a girl he was given the option to interact with like a human, which was a few times in his life, he looked them up on facebook, deemed they were too popular and bitchy to consider getting to know, and blamed them for being bitches.
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Yeah, he expected women to chase him. It seems to be a really big problem with loveshies and suchlike. If you want to be popular, you have to put yourself out there and take a genuine interest in other people, ask lots of questions etc.
 
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Black Sonichu said:
Forming a relationship often takes money as well, at least here in America. I'm not sure about other countries, but every attempt at a relationship I've made, I've paid for the date. That's what I meant, it takes money, maybe not much, unless you chase gold diggers. I've never met one, nor do I plan to.

That being said, most of those I've dated are bullshitters, but we were both in our late teens and early twenties.
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Isn't that granted? I'd hope you'd be paying for the dates; making the girl pay for them makes you come off as incredibly cheap. Is chivalry dead?

Elliot was an incredibly disturbed individual. He clearly has no grasp on how to socialize with anything at all. Everything seemed to revolve around sex with him.
 
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This is just heartbreaking, man.

Family friend Simon Astaire told Reuters that Rodger's mother, Chin, received a phone call on the night of the shooting from his therapist alerting her to the manifesto.

Chin Rodger called police and her ex-husband, Peter Rodger, and the two parents raced to Isla Vista, he said. Chin heard radio reports about the shootings as she drove, he said.
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Especially when that manifesto said he would begin with murdering his younger half-brother.
 
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chimpchan said:
Yeah, he expected women to chase him. It seems to be a really big problem with loveshies and suchlike. If you want to be popular, you have to put yourself out there and take a genuine interest in other people, ask lots of questions etc.
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Perhaps loveshies have a difficult time pursuing. Or just that everyone they go after lies and slips the words "my boyfriend" into the conversation just to keep them away.

The human brain itself has multiple defense mechanisms in it to shift blame towards anything but its owner, and that's probably a huge reason why love shys come about.

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Isn't that granted? I'd hope you'd be paying for the dates; making the girl pay for them makes you come off as incredibly cheap. Is chivalry dead?

Elliot was an incredibly disturbed individual. He clearly has no grasp on how to socialize with anything at all. Everything seemed to revolve around sex with him.
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Chivalry IS dead. Nothing is sacred.

Elliot was narcissistic and egotistical in a great deal of ways, not just one. When something he can't throw Daddy's money at rears its ugly head, it's like the machine suddenly stops working.
 
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Zenotwapal said:
Isn't that granted? I'd hope you'd be paying for the dates; making the girl pay for them makes you come off as incredibly cheap. Is chivalry dead?
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Chivalry may not be dead, but the economy is. AS A FEMALE HURR, I'm not sure I'd pay for a whole first date, but I'm definitely up for splitting the bill. Just because you're with a guy who can pay for things doesn't mean he has to feel pressure to. I think that if he knows you're willing to cover things from time to time, it makes the times the he does pay more special.
 
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The only thing tragic about this overprivleged little asshat's death is the fact that he took so many innocent people with him. He unfairly ended the lives of many people, and destroyed the lives of the people who care about them, all because girls didn't explode out of their panties and throw their legs open the second they spotted him. I really don't see how anyone could be supporting him or sympathizing with him for what he did.
 
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