Inactive Elliot Rodger - The Supreme Gentleman

[TVB]

Sheesh, that kid turned into another ugly adult, ala Mckuly Culkin.

Except Maculay Culkin has cleaned up and found the lords Mike, Jay and Rich of Red Letter Media.

 

[King Metalia]

I cannot help, but feel his parents can be partially blamed for what Elliot has become.
He was a sensitive kid, probably mentally unstable from an early age, but left untreated, as his parents never tried to identify the root cause of his problems. They only provided inefficient solutions, which usually involved throwing money at whatever issue their child was facing.

Oh, Elliot doesn't like the school we enrolled him in?
Welp, just move him to a different one, an elite one this time.
What? He doesn't like his apartment?
Oh well, let's just move him to another one, damn the expenses, I guess.

He was coddled and subsequently neglected. He understood this, as he emotionally manipulated his mother, to do his bidding, well into his adulthood, by calling her and crying like little bitch about whatever he was bothering him.
I think his obsession with wealth and status was also something he picked up from his parents. Both were heavily invested in Hollywood culture and trying to rub shoulders with important people in the movie industry. His father's career pursuits lead to them moving to the US and the eventual divorce, which certainly did not help Elliot. He was never allowed to have stability in his life, he was given whatever money can buy, but no one really cared about him. The only person who attempted to discipline him was his stepmother, Soumaya, but she never had the patience, nor the agency to have an effect on Elliot.
By the time his parents realised something was seriously wrong with the kid, all they did was hire him a counselor, who gave him basic bitch, Jordan Peterson tier advice. This was too little too late. At this point Elliot has internalised his misconceptions to such degree, even a professional therapist would have faced serious difficulty in trying to dispel them.
I believe if his parents tried to give him meaningful help, he may not have commited the attrocities he did. Maybe he would have turned out to be just a regular, stuck up asshole, instead of a creepy spree shooter.

Getting Elliot therapy isn't a bad idea. The problem isn't the therapist/counselor it's Elliot or people like him. For therapy to work you have to be willing to not only listen to the counselor but also you have to want to better yourself.

 

[Halmaz]

Getting Elliot therapy isn't a bad idea. The problem isn't the therapist/counselor it's Elliot or people like him. For therapy to work you have to be willing to not only listen to the counselor but also you have to want to better yourself.

I generally agree.
However, there is a major difference between a counselor and a professional therapist. I also believe timing is key. If Elliot received adequate help from an early age, he could have turned out to be a decent person.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Getting Elliot therapy isn't a bad idea. The problem isn't the therapist/counselor it's Elliot or people like him. For therapy to work you have to be willing to not only listen to the counselor but also you have to want to better yourself.

I genuinely believe that therapy can fix a lot of shit, but the problem is that on a professional level, you just have to take the classes and complete the requirements checklist to go into practice.

Midwit therapists aren’t going to get the job done in a lot of cases.

Also, a lot of people go into the field because of high empathy/sympathy etc, and that needs to be kept in check. The high empathy people have a hard time pushing when the need to push is there, and tend to phrase things softly enough to leave wiggle room for patients to hold on to bullshit.

I don’t think that Elliot would have been an impossible nut to crack or whatever, it’s just that he would’ve needed a therapist who could get the message to slip in behind his defenses, and deescalate like a pro if he started to wig out.

 

[Ed Weed]

Remember this psychopath creep. The fixation with blonde white women he put on display in his manifesto or whatever revealed some pretty deep seated self loathing and insecurity about his asian ancestry. I would assume due to the fact he attended mostly white schools and noticed he was something of an "other" and felt embarrassed about it.

He gets upset when he sees "indian" with white women even though he himself is not fully white.

Sorry if my inputs kind of supericial. The obsession he had for white women was always bizarre to me.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Remember this psychopath creep. The fixation with blonde white women he put on display in his manifesto or whatever revealed some pretty deep seated self loathing and insecurity about his asian ancestry. I would assume due to the fact he attended mostly white schools and noticed he was something of an "other" and felt embarrassed about it.

He gets upset when he sees "indian" with white women even though he himself is not fully white.

Sorry if my inputs kind of supericial. The obsession he had for white women was always bizarre to me.

Yeah I don’t get why he was particularly fixated on white girls.. it almost could be a “fuck you, dad” thing since his dad wasn’t a role model for that hang up.

I imagine he’d sperg about seeing other half breeds date white girls because he couldn’t pretend that he had a special disadvantage they didn’t? Maybe it put the blame back on his personality, and his personality was the thing he couldn’t understand was wrong with himself.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

I love how even the title of the manifesto is over dramatic. "My Twisted World" as if he had such a horrible life.

Humanity… All of my suffering on this world has been at the hands of humanity, particularly women. It has made me realize just how brutal and twisted humanity is as a species[…] It is a dark story of sadness, anger, and hatred.

Holy shit! Is he some anime villain whose father kept him chained up and beat and raped him every day until he was finally strong enough to pull his chains out the walls and kill him? Then for his father's murder he got sent to a prison colony where he had to fight and kill the worst criminals in the world to survive!

No. He had a very privileged upbringing with a rich father and mostly whines about going to red carpet premiers of blockbusters like Star Wars and Hunger Games, and crying through his vacation in Morocco

 

[Ed Weed]

Yeah I don’t get why he was particularly fixated on white girls.. it almost could be a “fuck you, dad” thing since his dad wasn’t a role model for that hang up.

I imagine he’d sperg about seeing other half breeds date white girls because he couldn’t pretend that he had a special disadvantage they didn’t? Maybe it put the blame back on his personality, and his personality was the thing he couldn’t understand was wrong with himself.

Agreed. I tend to like all women who are fit with attractive facial features.

It seems to me that a lot of Asian and Indian incel types tend to fixate on white women, just like our rotting friend Mr Rodger here.

Not sure why it is, but it's definitely a thing.

At the end of day, women can sniff out insecurity pretty easily. If they detected a whiff of his self loathing about being of Asian descent, that's probably one of numerous reasons they found him odd and undatable

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Getting Elliot therapy isn't a bad idea. The problem isn't the therapist/counselor it's Elliot or people like him. For therapy to work you have to be willing to not only listen to the counselor but also you have to want to better yourself.

Unfortunately he never would. I don’t think he could ever be fixed. Mostly because he was so narcissistic.

In another time line instead of murder he’d probably cut off his dick and cry about Hogwarts legacy.

 

[Slur Generator]

Agreed. I tend to like all women who are fit with attractive facial features.

So no ooga booga

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

I wonder if any bullies ever called Elliot Rodger "Smelliot", lmao

 

[TitusOvid]

There's no amount of therapy that could have helped Elliott. He was a huge narcissist who would rather die than admit any responsibility for his lack of relationships (which is what he ended up doing.)

Girls didn't approach him because he was a mute who expected them to love him for having expensive clothes and a car while he himself did nothing.

 

[BigRaxx]

I am fascinated that Elliot, being spoiled and having everything handed to him in his life, expected to have a beautiful 11/10 woman all over him, without even trying to approach them.

He definitely could of easily hooked up with an average/good looking woman if he worked on his social skills, and not an awkward loser with overly high standards.
He will always be known as a huge fucking loser, when he could of easily had a worthwhile and fulfilling life.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

Ya' think Elliot would've gone apeshit sooner if he found out 90% of the blondes around him were brunettes with died hair?

 

[King Metalia]

Unfortunately he never would. I don’t think he could ever be fixed. Mostly because he was so narcissistic.

In another time line instead of murder he’d probably cut off his dick and cry about Hogwarts legacy.

Any man who hates women becoming a woman would have to be one of the most self loathing individuals of all time.

 

[repentance]

By the time his parents realised something was seriously wrong with the kid, all they did was hire him a counselor, who gave him basic bitch, Jordan Peterson tier advice. This was too little too late. At this point Elliot has internalised his misconceptions to such degree, even a professional therapist would have faced serious difficulty in trying to dispel them.
I believe if his parents tried to give him meaningful help, he may not have commited the attrocities he did. Maybe he would have turned out to be just a regular, stuck up asshole, instead of a creepy spree shooter.

He'd been prescribed various medications for his mental health issues since his mid-teens. He was prescribed risperidone the year prior to the killings but refused to take it and disengaged from that psychiatrist.

It was his Los Angeles based life coach who sounded the alarm about the manifesto sent out on the night of the murders.

https://www.independent.com/2015/02/20/elliot-rodger-report-details-long-struggle-mental-illness/

The Isla Vista Mass Murder Investigative Summary gives an overview of Elliot's mental health background (p. 56)

Isla Vista investigative summary

The Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Office released its report on the deadly Isla Vista rampage that left six people and the gunman, Elliot Rodger, dead last May.

documents.latimes.com

 

[Ed Weed]

I am fascinated that Elliot, being spoiled and having everything handed to him in his life, expected to have a beautiful 11/10 woman all over him, without even trying to approach them.

He definitely could of easily hooked up with an average/good looking woman if he worked on his social skills, and not an awkward loser with overly high standards.
He will always be known as a huge fucking loser, when he could of easily had a worthwhile and fulfilling life.

Many such cases of people who are insecure and lacking social skills wanting to date super models. He was wealthy and not bad looking (he wasn't like a brick jawed Chad, but I'm sure there are women who would say he was "cute"). If he learned how to not act creepy and demanding he probably could have gotten some cute "Becky" or whatever average looking women are called in incel terminology

He screwed it up by being an entitled insecure psychopath.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

Elliot doesn't just give true and honest content on himself:

At the restaurant, there were three hot model-like girls who sat a few tables down from us. Their bodies looked so sexy and tantalizing that Philip had to go to the bathroom to masturbate.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

One of the unexpected things I found in the Manifesto:

Though I was really sad about the death of Soumaya’s father, as he was a very kind and generous man, I was glad to see Soumaya gone.

That's unexpected that he actually had empathy for someone dying, even thought it gave him something he wanted

 

[YouGuysAren'tThatSmart]

Except Maculay Culkin has cleaned up and found the lords Mike, Jay and Rich of Red Letter Media.

Right, but he also got his butthole smashed by creepazoids.