Careercow Elon Reeve Musk - Tesla, SpaceX and Twitter owner + ex-paypal CEO. Manchild, sexual deviant, spergy autist with access to space travel

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Elon vs Donald, who will be triumphant?

  • Elon Musk

    Votes: 29 2.5%

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 304 26.6%

  • Us, and the friends we made along the way

    Votes: 811 70.9%
  • Total voters
    1,144
>IMPLYING said:
I was more or less wondering whether or not something like the CFPB could exist at a state level? Or at least the laws it enforces? California has something called the 'California Consumer Privacy Act', which isn't the norm in other states, so in theory couldn't something be legislated locally that offers the same protections and assurances the CFPB does but just state wide? I'm not American so I'm more or less just going off of what I know from osmosis and extrapolating.
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Sure, state agencies can and do exist. For enforcement of laws that impact those states' residents. No further. But key banking laws/ regs are Federal bc the banking system is massive and underpins everything. There's a compelling reason for Federal jurisdiction. Most banks are Federally chartered bc they need to be able to do business everywhere, and a state agency has limits on enforcement.

State laws/ regs have borders. If we went to state laws/ regs and agencies only, here are examples of what happens: 1) charter a bank in State A. State A has no rules specific to Banks. Bank does business nationally. No one can force anything systemically bc no laws or regs apply to bank. 2) charter a bank in State A. State A has rules/ regs. Agency in State A can't sue Bank about what happens to residents of State B bc residents of State B do not get the benefit of laws in State A - much like (in an individual criminal context) State B could not prosecute State B residents for violations of laws of State A. That's (roughly, and simplified), how jurisdiction works in the US.

So...have 11 or 33 or 50 different agencies trying to enforce Federal laws (or up to 50 different sets of newly comprehensive state regs/ laws, if you toss Fed law/regs altogether) rather than one, each with far less ability to cause change or enforce compliance with laws about responsible practices, or even agree on what is "responsible banking"?

Having state agencies jockeying to hold banks to a million new state laws (with or without the Fed ones) would be absolute chaos. And if you think it's over-bureaucratic now...you have no idea.

Some things need to be Federally created and (primarily Federally) regulated. The banking system - the monetary system - is one. And topically, Elon Musk is a fucking retard.
 
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Poop Fartious said:
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Not to turn this into a full polisperg thread but this is just demonstrably untrue.
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I regret opening with that, I intended a more specific point that implying the website hack would have people regretting their vote felt like a half-baked political comment that doesn't really engage with the substance of this fuckup; but it invited politisperging in response for which I take the blame.

USPG2 is an insufficiently critical Trump knobslob and some of that spills over to Elon, but fortunately at least some people there are able to remember who they're dealing with and remain skeptical. He should never live down shit like his transhumanist nightmare family, and we should never stop laughing at him for lying about playing video games. This thread should be where you can point a politically brainrotted rightist to sober up the moment they start considering granting him unconditional trust; to whatever extent it turns into a political thread, it's a shame.

His DOGE role means this thread has all the problems Null identified with political cows when he closed the Trump thread; politics makes people who are otherwise reasonable and can get along call each other stupid, or on this site, lolcows. This is known. Elon's political role means it's inevitable that there are certain things he will do that half of people call retarded and the other half love. There's no easy answer, I don't think you can or should shut down discussion here of what he's doing in politics, but as a practical matter the thread has obviously drifted too far towards general political discussion. The Trump thread wasn't closed for the purpose of migrating that discussion here.
 
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Poop Fartious said:
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Not to turn this into a full polisperg thread but this is just demonstrably untrue.
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Make sure when it comes to polls you check the methodology. The graph you showed also doesn't factor in 'don't know' responses I.E. neutral which can skew things to be off a neutral baseline. Not saying the graph can't be used to make an argument but be aware that there's some things which people can point to. Choosing from the 'opt-in' panel and extrapolating an answer from what your panellists say compared to the broader population.
 
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Gregis said:
Given how Russia-Ukraine went, I'm not saying you all just need to take it to politics general, but maybe we need a 2nd one for people who generally don't like Trump. It's about half the country after all.

Edit: We also need a thread for Null to argue with lefties; he's clearly got some unresolved stuff from his Olbermann-watching past he needs to hash out.
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The issue is going to be that people that don't like Trump are going to always make anything Trump adjacent a political debate while that's not true the other way around.
You are far more likely to run into an anti Trump comment in the wild than you are a pro Trump one when politics aren't being specifically discussed.
It doesn't particularly matter if they're "half of the country", what matters is what their conduct is going to be in a given space. Why specifically facilitate their ability to be mad about politics anyway?
I think I'm with Josh when it comes to segregated spaces here.
Not only are you providing them their own place to fester but then you're opening the door for other groups to want their own spaces.
All of that to facilitate the lowest common denominator because they don't have proper decorum.
If that is going to be the point of contention then it really just comes down to policy and moderation, or of you're being extreme, ejecting them.
 
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I remember this retard (Ashley St. Clair) jumping off the trump train as soon as she saw the winds change going from 2019 into 2020.

I hate rightwing "influencers" as much as the leftwing ones. Just farming the retards for any penny they can get.

God was right to flood the earth and kill us.
 
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RandomTwitterGuy said:
Is she not part of the rightwing Turning Point?
Strong family values right there IVF impregnation, and then don't have shit to do with the child as the founding fathers intended.
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she's not since she mixed it up with TP people at rallies, also Trump has stated that he supports insurance being used to fund IVF

also if you're at all familiar with TP you'll know that their head Charlie Kirk has the pedophile phenotype
 
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Poop Fartious said:
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It’s one of those things where people conflate the attitudes here in this forum with the attitudes of society.
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These things are pretty much always bullshit.
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This didn’t actually disprove anything.
Fae Supremacist said:
The camgirl/onlyfans/e-whore to conservative grifter pipeline is a marvel to watch.
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Conservatives are obsessed with tokenism and that has extended to BASTE whores. They’ve touted baste pornstars like Brandi Love at rallies. Let’s not forget congressthots like Nancy Mace, Anna Paulina Luna, and Lauren Boebert aka Lauren Hoebert. Any of those thots could be in a Brazzers video and nobody would bat an eye.

Ashley St. Clair, which sounds like a porn stage name, is right at home with the modern GOP.
 
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