Eminem Griefing Thread - Awfully hot coffee pot guy

The sad part is if he just stayed retired he'd have been remembered as a phenomenon. The white boy who came in and became your favorite rappers favorite rapper, the Elvis/Jackie Robinson of rap, but he couldn't help himself. He had to go and "correct" himself, so instead of remembering him for The Slim Shady LP, The Marshal Mathers LP, or the Eminem Show, he's now going to be remembered as the "Walk on Water" and "Awfully Hot Coffee Pot" guy. The Kamikaze album is what happens when a celebrity falls off so hard and is outraged so much by critics he literally REEEES at them.
I always considered the Recovery album an apology for how bad Relapse was, but Kamikaze was just pure cope over how poorly Revival was received.
And on Kamikaze, he goes on about how much he hates mumble rappers, but tries to sound like them. This wouldn’t stop as on Music To Be Murdered By, he collaborates with Young M.A, who would just be “another mumble rapper” if she wasn’t a butch lesbian, and Juice WRLD, right before he died. He put out the song “Godzilla” with Juice WRLD on it right after Juice died.

Godzilla was celebrated as Eminem earned the Guinness World Records for the fastest verse- at 7.5 words per second. Em also has the record for the most words in a song- the song “Rap God” has 1,560 words in a 6 minute 4 second song.
If you never gave a damn, raise your hand
'Cause I'm about to set trip, vacation plans
I'm on point like my index is, so all you will ever get is
The motherfuckin' finger (finger), prostate exam ('xam)
How can I have all these fans and perspire? Like a liar's pants, I'm on fire
And I got no plans to retire, and I'm still the man you admire
These chicks are spazzin' out, I only get more handsome and flyer
I got 'em passin' out like what you do when you hand someone flyers
And what goes around comes around just like the blades on the chainsaw
'Cause I caught the flack, but my dollars stacked right off the bat like a baseball
Like Kid Ink, bitch, I got 'em racks with so much ease that they call me Diddy
'Cause I make bands and I call gettin' cheese a cakewalk (cheesecake, yeah)
Bitch, I'm a player, I'm too motherfuckin' stingy for Cher
Won't even lend you an ear, ain't even pretendin' to care
But I tell a bitch I'll marry her if she'll bury her
Face in my genital area, the original Richard Ramirez
Cristhian Rivera, 'cause my lyrics never sit well, so they wanna give me the chair
Like a paraplegic, and it's scary, call it Hari Kari
'Cause e'ry Tom and Dick and Harry carry a Merriam motherfuckin' dictionary on 'em
Swearin' up and down they can spit, this shit's hilarious
It's time to put these bitches in the obituary column
We wouldn't see eye to eye with a starin' problem
Get the shaft like a steerin' column (monster)
Trigger-happy, pack heat, but it's black ink
Evil half of the Bad Meets, evil, that means take a back seat
Take it back to Fat Beats with a maxi single
Look at my rap sheet, what attracts these people
Is my "Gangsta Bitch" like Apache with a catchy jingle
I stack chips, you barely got a half-eaten Cheeto
Fill 'em with the venom and eliminate 'em, other words, I Minute Maid 'em
I don't wanna hurt 'em, but I did, I'm in a fit of rage, I'm murderin' again, nobody will evade
I'm finna kill 'em and dump all their fuckin' bodies in the lake
Obliteratin' everything, incinerate a renegade, I'm here to make anybody who want it with the pen afraid
But don't nobody want it, but they're gonna get it anyway
'Cause I'm beginnin' to feel like I'm mentally ill, I'm Attila, kill or be killed, I'm a killer bee, the vanilla gorilla
You bringin' the killer within me outta me, you don't wanna be the enemy of the demon who entered me
And be on the receivin' end of me, what stupidity it'd be, every bit of me's the epitome of a spitter
When I'm in the vicinity, motherfucker, you better duck, or you finna be dead the minute you run into me
A hunnid percent of you is a fifth of a percent of me, I'm 'bout to fuckin' finish you, bitch, I'm unfadable
You wanna battle, I'm available, I'm blowin' up like an inflatable
I'm undebatable, I'm unavoidable, I'm unevadable
I'm on the toilet bowl, I got a trailer full of money, and I'm paid in full, I'm not afraid to pull a
Man, stop, look what I'm plannin', haha
Godzilla is luckily forgettable, but Rap God unfortunately inspired a circle jerk of fast rapping contests all over the internet.
Happened to Howard stern as well, before t happened to eminem too! Yes know howard is "hooked nose jew/white guy with extra steps" but his downfall was weirdly similar to eminem and idubbz. We need to find a way to properly catalogue this "cool guy to whiny little bitch he used to make fun of" phenomenon.
I think a lot of that is losing touch with the changing times. When things change so fast, it’s hard to keep up.
 
I think a lot of that is losing touch with the changing times. When things change so fast, it’s hard to keep up.
Nah, lots of them did this shit at the peak of relevancy or slightly after they'd been relevant for some time. With howard and idubbz it seemed the person they were n a relationship with at the time was a contributing factor to the change to 'safe edgy" and then "complete reversal of self", but with eminem don't think there was anything like that unless I missed something. My point s there's usually one or several factors that leads to them becoming like this, and "being out of touch" isn't t because they usually frame and treat t like their old self was out of touched compared to their "new and better (shittier)" self. They frame the degradation as if they grew from some experience when their behavior shows the opposite.
 
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My point s there's usually one or several factors that leads to them becoming like this, and "being out of touch" isn't t because they usually frame and treat t like their old self was out of touched compared to their "new and better (shittier)" self. They frame the degradation as if they grew from some experience when their behavior shows the opposite
It's a fairly common thing for people with years long drug addictions to act like that when they do finally kick it. Like his old self was high as fuck on drugs a lot. Also he's old. As you get older you get used to getting better at shit and some people can't cope when they find out there's younger people better than they are at the thing they were always praised for being good at their whole life.
 
I actually couldn't believe it when I discovered Eminem is a deranged lib, this fucking guy went from rapping about crazy shit, being "offensive" to fucking crying about people not getting vaccinated, the guy is legitimately confused, he can't pick an identity, he doesn't know if he's a tough guy rapper, or a fucking shopping mall Karen.
Generation X edgelords eventually got a bad case of troll’s remorse and became obnoxious overcompensating faggots: Eminem, Steve Albini, Howard Stern, etc.
The sad part is if he just stayed retired he'd have been remembered as a phenomenon.
If he retired at Recovery, released in 2010, he would’ve ended it as the best rapper alive. Now he’s like the Zombie Simpsons where there’s been more bad/mediocre years in his career than good years. His whole “I’m killing Slim Shady” hook was more out of desperation than anything, something Eminem would’ve made fun of 25 years ago.
 
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Generation X edgelords eventually got a bad case of troll’s remorse and become obnoxious overcompensating faggots: Eminem, Steve Albini, Howard Stern, etc.
If he retired at Recovery, released in 2010, he would’ve ended it as the best rapper alive. Now he’s like the Zombie Simpsons where there’s been more bad/mediocre years in his career than good years. His whole “I’m killing Slim Shady” hook was more out of desperation than anything.
It's sad because he still has the talent. He's still a fucking wizard of a wordsmith underneath it all but now he's so preoccupied with having the "right opinions" it's almost like wasted talent. It's like if Michelangelo decided he'd rather paint Sonic the Hedgehog porn instead of the Sistine Chapel.
As much as I don't care for his new music his verse in the song "Tobey" was actually pretty good. But he was always better when he wasn't trying to rap fast and when he wasn't surrounding himself with inferior zoomer rappers in a bid to remain relevant.
Come to think of it he was fucking awesome on tracks with people that were the "superior" rappers like "Dead Wrong" with Biggie and especially "Renegade" with Jay Z. Even hardcore Jay Z fans said Eminem's two verses were far more superior than Jay Z's. I guess when you're with the bigger stars you absolutely have to bring your A-game, not as much when you're featuring people you already know you're better than and you have no need or desire to impress.
 
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i can't think of a band or performer or rapper who stayed relevant past 40.
Alice cooper was arguably at his height at 40. Him being early to hair metal helped. Same with Aerosmith, they were all in their late 40s and Steven Tyler just turned 50 when their biggest song was released.

But it's also a genre thing. Gangsta rap was in its waning days by the time Slim and 50 entered the scene.

20 years ago it was at its height now I feel like pop singers have more edge than these geriatrics or could if they wanted to.

In general music trends are so short lived that unless you're really lucky you can't stay in the limelight forever. Even Madonna was mocked for trying to keep up in her 40s. Just naturally it's sort of impossible to keep up
Johnny Cash.
Country music shouldn't count. It's easy to get a hit if you know the right people. Look at Chicken in Black. I wouldnt be surprised if there are people in their 90s still making hits in country
 
But it's also a genre thing. Gangsta rap was in its waning days by the time Slim and 50 entered the scene.
It made a comeback in the 2010’s when drill was invented.

But one thing I don’t like about Eminem is his stans. I mentioned them before, but they always defend Eminem, even when he carries out the same tropes as musicians they don’t like. It’s bad when Ice Spice makes poop and fart jokes, but Em has done it for years and is still a national treasure. Mumble rappers suck, but Em does mumble rap and it DOESN’T SUCK.

I knew a Stan IRL. He was a jerk to everyone.
 
If you look up “Eminem” in the search bar on RYM, you will see this:
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Apparently, “Emine’m” is Turkish for “My Emine” (“Emine” being a common girl’s name in Turkey and “’m” at the end indicating “my”). These musicians released their albums after the Eminem we all know got famous, and I imagine he was known about in Turkey as well.
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This album was released in 2003. She even spelled the second E backwards.
 
Eminem’s mom Debbie died recently. She was a polarizing figure, as Em accused her of Munchhausen’s by proxy in his music. A lot of people hated her for a long time.

I read her book about Eminem, and she said she spoiled him. She gave in to Em faking being sick so that he could miss school. When she became a foster parent, Em hated that he was no longer getting a lot of attention, so he locked the foster kids out of the house. She became a genetic mother again when she had Em’s half-brother Nathan. While Debbie was never officially accused by MbP to Eminem, she was accused of MbP to Nathan. Nathan was placed into foster care and Eminem legally adopted him to make sure he didn’t go to foster care again.

(I know that this isn’t about his music but since his personal life became a spectacle I had to share this.)
 
I'm sure the truth about Debbie fell somewhere in the middle of Marshall's public accounts and lyrics and her public statements.

I'm happy for both of them that there seemed to be some semblance of reconciliation before she died.
 
I'm sure the truth about Debbie fell somewhere in the middle of Marshall's public accounts and lyrics and her public statements.

I'm happy for both of them that there seemed to be some semblance of reconciliation before she died.
Yeah the book was written in 2007, before they reconciled in 2013.
Will Hayley be attending the funeral?
I think the whole family will.
 
I missed getting the rap boy fortnite skin that's just eminem with ketchup and mustard gas tanks on his back. by a few minutes because I thought it was going away tommorow instead of today till it was too late. RIP my chance of ever getting the funny emineminem. Money saved though so fuck it, technicallyno big loss aside from having people lose their shit over eminem killing them.

I somehow didn't realize houdini was even a thing despite the earlier posts in the thread about it, or maybe I did and got weird short term dementia over an eminem song for some reason. Ayways I find him making tranny and gay jokes in the song kind of funny considering everything that's happened the last 8 years with him. You'd think he would be scared to make those and censor it unless he already did and apologized lmao). Also the one off reference to the "black or chinese" meme was something too.
 
Eminem is to hip hop what iDubbbz is to YouTube.
He was once beloved for his edgy "I don't give a fuck" attitude, willing to say anything if it gets a rise/laugh out of people.
But at some point he hit a snag where his balls deflated and became a weak and pathetic hollow version of himself, releasing new things that don't land to less and less fans.
Shame. I was once an angry young white kid that found comfort in his lyrics.
Now I'm an angry older white man and now I just think he's become a faggot, even politics aside. Him collaborating with Beyonce really put the nail in his coffin. He didn't need to make an album "killing off" Slim Shady. Slim Shady's been dead since Relapse.
There are glimpses of young Eminem on the new album; on the track Antichrist he even momentarily modulates his voice as a call back to his old style, and there's some great wordplay on the album: the best line I've picked up on so far is one from the track Fuel, where he says "wait, he didn't just spell the word "rapper" and leave out a "p", did he?" (an obvious reference to the P. Diddy controversy). He's definitely not as edgy as he used to be, but it's not totally gone either, and in my opinion his latest album is probably his best in quite a long time.

The "decline" that people talk about with Eminem started long before Relapse. I remember The Eminem Show feeling like a lackluster sequel to The Marshal Mathers LP when it came out, and Encore was like an even more lackluster sequel to The Eminem Show. He then disappeared for a few years, returned with a string of largely forgettable albums, and didn't really appear on my radar again until his return to form with Kamikaze. I'd still probably say that his best work of the last decade is his collaborations with others though.
 
It made a comeback in the 2010’s when drill was invented.

But one thing I don’t like about Eminem is his stans. I mentioned them before, but they always defend Eminem, even when he carries out the same tropes as musicians they don’t like. It’s bad when Ice Spice makes poop and fart jokes, but Em has done it for years and is still a national treasure. Mumble rappers suck, but Em does mumble rap and it DOESN’T SUCK.
The difference being Eminem is actually funny when he wants to be. Ice Spice is just fucking gross no matter direction you look at her from. Fart jokes are funny from people that don't look like they always smell like farts. Ice Spice is the latter. The bitch hardly looks like she knows what a shower is.

There are glimpses of young Eminem on the new album; on the track Antichrist he even momentarily modulates his voice as a call back to his old style, and there's some great wordplay on the album: the best line I've picked up on so far is one from the track Fuel, where he says "wait, he didn't just spell the word "rapper" and leave out a "p", did he?" (an obvious reference to the P. Diddy controversy). He's definitely not as edgy as he used to be, but it's not totally gone either, and in my opinion his latest album is probably his best in quite a long time.

The "decline" that people talk about with Eminem started long before Relapse. I remember The Eminem Show feeling like a lackluster sequel to The Marshal Mathers LP when it came out, and Encore was like an even more lackluster sequel to The Eminem Show. He then disappeared for a few years, returned with a string of largely forgettable albums, and didn't really appear on my radar again until his return to form with Kamikaze. I'd still probably say that his best work of the last decade is his collaborations with others though.
The decline for me was when he started hanging out with 50 Cent too much and his music reflected it.
For instance his song "Welcome to Detroit" with Trick Trick always sat wrong with me. Eminem is a great rapper but I never once saw him as a gangster. So him rubbing shoulders with gang bangers and talking about gang shit seemed dumb. Reminds me of suburban and rural white kids that tried to act ghetto and believed their own LARP until they got jumped by the real street niggers they were emulating.
 
I like slim shady, without me, the real slim shady and stan are pretty profound songs for a shallow genre such as rap I don’t care that he’s liberal but at this point He’s just chasing the uninterested zoomers at thos point, funny enough the only people who really truly love and respect him are rightwing teens and older gen x
 
I don’t think Debbie was as good of a mother as she said she was. Social workers came in and saw that the young Eminem would not interact with other people and would rock back and forth.

Em could have had reactive attachment disorder as a child and was never diagnosed. RAD is often underdiagnosed and misdiagnosed as disorders like autism because it shares overlapping symptoms. But Debbie constantly defended herself and her parenting. I guess she was better than Em’s dad who chickened out completely.
 
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The difference being Eminem is actually funny when he wants to be. Ice Spice is just fucking gross no matter direction you look at her from. Fart jokes are funny from people that don't look like they always smell like farts. Ice Spice is the latter. The bitch hardly looks like she knows what a shower is.
Eminem makes really bad toilet humor jokes:
Your booty is heavy duty, like diarrhoea
Since I’m manure, she’s a sewer / And this time this piece of shit’s running through her
Just shit on my last chick, and she has what my ex lacks
Bitch, shit is real like I pooped Jerusalem
 
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