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new versions of Edge are literally a reskinned chrome.
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I thought it was a damn shame that MS just gave up on EdgeHTML. It had real potential when it came out, but they didn't support it well enough and it got overtaken by Chrome and Firefox and it ended up becoming another burden for web app devs to support just like IE. Rendering engines are so complex at this point that it's practically impossible to make one without corporate backing. MS is one of the few companies that has the resources to do it, but for whatever reason they just decided to give up and make Yet Another Chromium Re-Skin.Is it? The original Edge was at least MS trying to be inventive. They scrapped it and just reskinned Chrome since Edge 2.0 is based on Chromium. Basically, Firefox is the only game in town. There's a bunch of little guys (Pale Moon, Web Browser, QT based browsers), but Google controls the direction of the internet. Firefox seems content with being SJWs rather than be initiative or competing with Chrome.
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I blame w3c for that to an extend, html (even if the ideas for some stuff came from the right place) was such a mess for most of it's time which was allowed to be abused by every corp and shitty web dev one way or another, which lead to the current situation. imagine we would have strict standards from day one were people either adhere to or told to fuck off. writing a rendering engine in that case wouldn't be hard, but now you need support everything and every special snowflake website that's build specifically to only work on certain browsers properly.Rendering engines are so complex at this point that it's practically impossible to make one without corporate backing. MS is one of the few companies that has the resources to do it, but for whatever reason they just decided to give up and make Yet Another Chromium Re-Skin.
I wonder if Google will be beaten at their own game as well?it's hilariously ironic tho how microsoft got beaten at their own game, and all they could do is whine about it before they cucked out.
chaining the updates to Windows
I wonder if Google will be beaten at their own game as well?
Yeah it was delightful having to mess with the setting is in the control panel. I remember being able to do some primitive adblocking by putting some URLs there on a blocklist.Remember how IE was built into Windows (and needed special tool or hacking skills to be removed), and one could go from the file browser directly to the internet?
Bing is only good for farming amazon giftcardsIE needed to finally die, because it is such a shit outdated web browser. Legit has been obsolete since the XP days. Surprised they didn't axe it half a decade ago.
Edge is a reasonable browser and Bing is actually pretty nifty search engine. I use prodomimately Brave, but sometimes I test stuff of Edge just because. Works pretty nice and is relatively light weight compared to Chrome.
Loosey-goosey HTML isn't the root of today's issues though. The problem now is that even if you want to write a rigorously standards-compliant browser, it has to pretty much be a multitasking operating system of its own, because that's what's in the standards.imagine we would have strict standards from day one were people either adhere to or told to fuck off. writing a rendering engine in that case wouldn't be hard
I dont think that will help as it's not a compatability issue but generally a security issue for old protocols & such, the example i gave was SSL 1.0 but alot of sites died when they killed flash as well, i know one of our clients websites went down for over a month as they couldn't display content on it anymore & had to have it completely remade & it cost them about 40k to fix.I remember seeing a IE compat mode on Edge at one point, that might help with some of the sites, but I would not be surprised if some of them are too messed up for even that.
A correct response tbqh i have never used it personally outside of work as its shit but it is useful since atm its built into windows & to get sites to work sometimes you need to make IE trust them especially on dogshit server OS's like Windows server *spits*I used Internet explorer when I was younger in 2010.
I was browsing a rage comic site and the site detected I was using I.E and it shamedme with a jpeg for using it.
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Internet explorer? Are you retarded?
After that I never used it again.
Just to add to this non-PL, my previous employer still had internal apps that would only work on IE. In 2019.Oh dear, this is going to have further repercussions than any of you realise. Not to power level or anything but i work in IT & let me tell you the amount of shitty little training websites, software portals (alot of hotels use a system that Oracle used to sell for bookings etc & it needs to be run through a IE frontend as the new version they made is a cloud based security hole riddled nightmare so a lot of organisations won't move to it), etc, that need old versions of HTML & ancient protocols like SSL 1.0 that are now only supported by IE is crazy.