UN Environmentalist Pentti Linkola is dead - Radical ecologist, ornithologist, writer and fisherman

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A conservationist, ornithologist Pentti Linkola , 87, is dead. This is confirmed to Yle linkola’s daughter Leena Linkola , but he did not want to comment more.

Pentti Linkola was born in Helsinki 7 December 1932. He was known for deep ecological thinking trend of the representative, and a professional fisherman. Linkola founded in 1995, natural heritage foundation, which bought the Finnish old-growth forests to be protected. Linkola lived Sääksmäen Ritvalassa.

Linkola graduated from high school in 1950, the Helsinki Finnish co-educational school, after which he studied at the university of Helsinki in animal and plant science. Years 1952-1959 Linkola worked free natural researcher. In 1959 he started professional fishing and fish both sea and lake.
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Very sad to see a thinker such as Linkola pass on, but hopefully it'll create some buzz for people who haven't been exposed to his works. A bit dark, but highly reccomended nonetheless.

"Can Life Prevail?"

Can Life Prevail? by Pentti Linkola (2004) : Pentti Linkola : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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1993-2006 essays:

A Collection of Essays by Pentti Linkola 1993 - 2006 | Trees | Forestry

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[Arm Pit Cream]

WTF, I love how OP glosses over everything this guy says and talks about killing off millions as a bit dark. Anyway, we can have some fun with this.

Arm Pit Cream on Adolf Hitler:

“He was an artist who loved animals. He sought to fight corruption, he fought for what he thought was right. He got a bit dark in the last years of his life but it was really more of a thought experiment. You guys took what he said too seriously.”

I listed his works for people to read, am I suppose to baby you because you can't read more then a sentence without spazzing out?

Sorry, I don't like totalitarians of any stripe - regardless of what their message is. There's always gonna be some asshole crowing about the sky falling and demanding we give over our individual agency to some monolithic armature of oppression and control. I will never take these people seriously.

85% of the world's energy supply is based in fossil fuels, oil companies alone contributed more then 1 billion dollars in the US to ads and lobbyist groups since the Paris Climate Accord and globally oil/gas alone make up 3.8% of the world's entire economy. I would say that kind of entrenched economic power that goes so heavily against the will of the people is totalitarian
Your platitudes are all pure and adorable freedom fighter, but I'm not sure why you believe properly punishing companies causing unnecessary damage to the environment is "fascism!!!!!" and no you will not obtain a solution through the free market lol
I think you're just ok with big companies walking all over you if you can justify it by saying it's not big government

 

[Bugs_Galore]

What a pathetic fucking faggot. If you're going to be an ecofascist at least be a good one and fucking do something. Talk is cheap and any leftie shill can drone on and on about the environment all day like a whiney faggot without doing anything.

What separates Al Gore from Ted Kaczynski is that Ted actually put his money where his fucking mouth was. You really think that the human population is too high? Bomb a cruise ship. You think that industrialization has gone too far? Take out an electric plant. I don't care what you do but at least make It interesting. I've heard countless retards drunk on nihilism complain over and over again that we have killed the environment and gone too far but very few of them actually do anything with their lives besides getting on a soapbox to tell the rest of us how bad we fucked up.

 

[Übertroon]

Add another name to the list of people who died thinking the apocalypse would happen in their lifetime

 

[ColtWalker1847]

85% of the world's energy supply is based in fossil fuels, oil companies alone contributed more then 1 billion dollars in the US to ads and lobbyist groups since the Paris Climate Accord and globally oil/gas alone make up 3.8% of the world's entire economy. I would say that kind of entrenched economic power that goes so heavily against the will of the people is totalitarian
Your platitudes are all pure and adorable freedom fighter, but I'm not sure why you believe properly punishing companies causing unnecessary damage to the environment is "fascism!!!!!" and no you will not obtain a solution through the free market lol
I think you're just ok with big companies walking all over you if you can justify it by saying it's not big government

I would say groups of elites unilaterally limiting energy production options going forward so that society is forced to adapt to pre-industrial third world standards (and associated environmental destruction. See: Haiti) is a hell of a lot more heavy-handed than operating an energy company and running ads.

 

[the clap]

Another environmentalist who said we have too many people, but didn't neck themselves? What a surprise

 

[Arm Pit Cream]

I would say groups of elites unilaterally limiting energy production options going forward so that society is forced to adapt to pre-industrial third world standards (and associated environmental destruction. See: Haiti) is a hell of a lot more heavy-handed than operating an energy company and running ads.

Thats theoretical, we're talking reality. Billions in lobbying and numerous countries running on the juice which proves an entrenched interest does exist. You live in this delusional world where you think some "group of elites" aren't unilaterally pursuing an ultimately useless environmental agenda that only goes to ensure the oil industry's continued relevance. Do you understand how the petrodollar works?

I never once said go to pre-industrial third world standards don't put words in my mouth. How does charging actual fair fines companies for over polluting relate to "adapting to pre-industrial third world standards"?

 

[mr.moon1488]

Dude seems like a cow, but still kinda sad he died. Rip

 

[Dom Cruise]

"Everything we have developed over the last 100 years should be destroyed."

I never understood the appeal of the hardcore tree hugging mindset like this, imagine not thinking cars, planes, spaceships, movies, video games etc are cool.

 

[Gorillagorillagorilla]

I can name several environmentalists and conservationists that have done more for this guy. Ian Player is a good one. That guy practically saved the Southern white rhino himself.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Thats theoretical, we're talking reality. Billions in lobbying and numerous countries running on the juice which proves an entrenched interest does exist. You live in this delusional world where you think some "group of elites" aren't unilaterally pursuing an ultimately useless environmental agenda that only goes to ensure the oil industry's continued relevance. Do you understand how the petrodollar works?

I never once said go to pre-industrial third world standards don't put words in my mouth. How does charging actual fair fines companies for over polluting relate to "adapting to pre-industrial third world standards"?

What's the energy alternative? Oh right, nothing. Maybe nuclear could fill some of the gaps after a decade of heavy investment. But there is sweet fuckall to replace oil and gas for the foreseeable future. The oil industry is nowhere near being irrelevant. That's where this shit falls down and it becomes very apparent what they are doing. If there is no cheap energy for transportation, agriculture, industry, and manufacturing it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what happens next. This puts consumption of many goods and services out of the reach of the middle-class of the developed world. Which then causes a loss of jobs which puts more out of reach etc. Then we don't have to worry about those awful dirty industries anymore.

Right? That's what this guy was all about. That's what the environmental movement's goal is. Slamming the brakes on western capitalist consumerism isn't a bug here. It's a designed feature. Undermining the bedrock of our energy infrastructure by slapping on arbitrary taxes/fees for vague and poorly attributed pollution is the tool they are using to do it.

 

[WarJams]

It's always the fucking ornithologists! Why does this specialization always attract the biggest crackpots?

 

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I can name several environmentalists and conservationists that have done more for this guy. Ian Player is a good one. That guy practically saved the Southern white rhino himself.

Don't worry, overpopulation among Africans and Chinamen will kill them soon enough.

 

[TowinKarz]

I never understood the appeal of the hardcore tree hugging mindset like this, imagine not thinking cars, planes, spaceships, movies, video games etc are cool.

THey're so ignorant, they don't get exactly what they'd be getting rid of if they Thanos-snapped 100 years of human progress away.

They only think it would get rid of decadent and pointless (to them) consumer goods and frivolous institutions like Hollywood and pro sports and things they hate for being not "green" enough, like modern tranportation and all of associated "car culture".

They just picked 100 because it's a nice big (but not TOO big) round number that shows how serious they are.

They don't get that things like reliable antibiotics, medical tech making same-day in-and-out surgeries for things like colon polyps or cataracts a thing, clean food right off the shelf, vaccines, affordable home electrifacation and indoor plumbing, trash pickup, and the interent would all go bye-bye too.

And if the did think about it, they brushed it off with "so what, we'll learn to deal with it and everyone will eventually accept it as the norm"

The insantiy of this mindset is obvious when you realize they believe in the Noble Savage mythos, that once upon a time humanity were like elves, living in harmony with nature until the capitalists ruined it all.

Horseshit.


Life was cold, hungry and tough until we found a way to not starve all the time and live longer, that's why we dont' live in mud huts anymore, if the goal is extending human life and reducing human misery, then it's a no-brainer.

 

[Dom Cruise]

THey're so ignorant, they don't get exactly what they'd be getting rid of if they Thanos-snapped 100 years of human progress away.

They only think it would get rid of decadent and pointless (to them) consumer goods and frivolous institutions like Hollywood and pro sports and things they hate for being not "green" enough, like modern tranportation and all of associated "car culture".

They just picked 100 because it's a nice big (but not TOO big) round number that shows how serious they are.

They don't get that things like reliable antibiotics, medical tech making same-day in-and-out surgeries for things like colon polyps or cataracts a thing, clean food right off the shelf, vaccines, affordable home electrifacation and indoor plumbing, trash pickup, and the interent would all go bye-bye too.

And if the did think about it, they brushed it off with "so what, we'll learn to deal with it and everyone will eventually accept it as the norm"

The insantiy of this mindset is obvious when you realize they believe in the Noble Savage mythos, that once upon a time humanity were like elves, living in harmony with nature until the capitalists ruined it all.

Horseshit.


Life was cold, hungry and tough until we found a way to not starve all the time and live longer, that's why we dont' live in mud huts anymore, if the goal is extending human life and reducing human misery, then it's a no-brainer.

It's also ignoring the fact that building tools and technology is just what we humans naturally do, a city is as natural as an ant bed, hippy dippy types seems to want to believe modern man is somehow intrinsically separate from nature which just isn't true.

But modern SJWism really has evolved into a Religion, just like you have the garden of Eden you have the primitive days of "indigenousness people" which are seen as an Eden esque paradise until the Great Satan (white men) came along and despoiled paradise with his evil civilization and technology.

It's a fundamentally Paganistic worldview diametrically opposed to western Christian civilization which, what fedora tippers think aside, is actually what gave us the civilization that created automobiles, airplanes and rocket ships.

 

[Sanshain]

Thats theoretical, we're talking reality. Billions in lobbying and numerous countries running on the juice which proves an entrenched interest does exist. You live in this delusional world where you think some "group of elites" aren't unilaterally pursuing an ultimately useless environmental agenda that only goes to ensure the oil industry's continued relevance. Do you understand how the petrodollar works?

I never once said go to pre-industrial third world standards don't put words in my mouth. How does charging actual fair fines companies for over polluting relate to "adapting to pre-industrial third world standards"?

Dude, I agree with your points, but you come across like a sign-waving neoliberal ecoterrorist. Stop insulting people when you're trying to get them to show empathy for nature.

It's also ignoring the fact that building tools and technology is just what we humans naturally do, a city is as natural as an ant bed, hippy dippy types seems to want to believe modern man is somehow intrinsically separate from nature which just isn't true.

I consider this to be objectively untrue. Cities are not natural to the human condition, and have never been natural. Until the last century or two, even the largest cities were dwarfed by rural populations, and were all but demographically irrelevant. Power was centralized within them, yes, but they depended on inwards economic migration for growth. Until the advent of modern medicine and hygiene, cities were completely unsustainable in terms of natural population growth. Instead, they were hotbeds of disease and illness, with the overwhelming majority of children born within their confines dying before they reached adulthood. Cities came about due to socio-economic pressures, not because they were natural or something that humans 'just do'. That's why for the longest time, the largest sustainable human populations were nomadic, or consisted of smaller groups that lived independently and only came together for certain special events.

Furthermore - and this is entirely from a personal perspective - modern man is absolutely separate from nature. I live in a rural setting. My parents were farmers, and I live with animals. Modern humans are pathetic when it comes to nature. The majority of them don't know what species live around them, how to interact with nature in a healthy way, or how to even survive outside of their carefully constructed modern bubbles. If organized civilization had collapsed a hundred years ago, it would have recovered easily by now. If the current model of civilization collapsed, the idiot bumbling city-dwellers would quickly drive the remaining competent rural folk to extinction in their mad quest to regain the utterly cushioned, pampered lifestyle they've been brought up to believe is 'natural'.

 

[Liber Pater]

And with his death, we move one step closer to the extinction of an endangered species that (unlike Finnish old growth forests) not even Linkola was able to save: the honest environmentalist.

 

[TowinKarz]

I consider this to be objectively untrue. Cities are not natural to the human condition, and have never been natural.

It's human nature to band together into communities.

Cities are just what you get when technology removes the natural "cap" of how big a given community can grow before it runs out of food or produces too much waste to handle. Agriculture moved us from teepee to thatch hut, and tractors then moved us to apartment block, it's a natural evolution.

The reasons cities didn't become as big as they are until the 19th century is because automated/mechanized farming did not come around until then.

Your assertion that cities aren't natural is more of that "noble savage" bullshit.

Every society, everywhere in the world, regardless of local culture, builds one as soon as they have the tech to do so.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Your assertion that cities aren't natural is more of that "noble savage" bullshit.

I will not deny that cities are a progression of human development, but I also feel that there is a component of the urban environment that brings out the worst of humanity. It would be hard to pretend that urbanites don't have a tendency to be selfish, violent, and arrogant, and this sentiment seems to appear in cities throughout history.
The big issue, I'd say, is the modern metropolis encouraging a near-complete disconnect from manual labor and the rural society, which amplifies the existing urban-rural contrast and is a major component in the nu-male phenomenon.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

He reached the age of 87 so the chance he didn't use any of the technology he hates is absolutely null. Burn in hell you hypocrite edge lord echo fash.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

While his work seems valid enough to avoid me throwing the label of fake-ecologist, he sure sounds like a crackpot.

Also "Deep Ecologists" and "Social Ecologists" are outright loons who have little to do with actual ecosystem function & biodiversity and more to do with "reduce our impact on the environment bro!"

It's always the fucking ornithologists! Why does this specialization always attract the biggest crackpots?

Every biological specialization has their own breed of nutcases. (can confirm )
But all are outdone by 1) environmentalist faggots ("muh fuel consumption bro") 2) animal rights faggots (re:big mammal faggots)