Epic! 8-bitguy uses 1 weird trick to detroy rare prototypes!

[Don Yagon]

The culture surrounding CRTs has degenerated, sure, but they aren't worthless relics. I'd rather play games on a CRT than any modern shit.

Smear any LCD with some vaseline and you'll get the same experience.

 

[#lurker]

Smear any LCD with some vaseline

That's redunant, you are already looking at vaseline the moment any motion is displayed on an LCD screen.

 

[Sayer of the N-Word]

The culture surrounding CRTs has degenerated, sure, but they aren't worthless relics. I'd rather play games on a CRT than any modern shit.

CRTs are inferior to modern monitors in every conceivable way, even for gaming. Even the most autistic techtuber dedicated to the full vintage experience will only use one for a short period of time. Fucking zoomers touting the virtues of having cathode ray beams shooting into their eyeballs for hours. I'm saying this as someone who uses a CRT exactly for the vintage experience, too.

 

[#lurker]

CRTs are inferior to modern monitors in every conceivable way

 

[Pee Cola]

Old systems look kinda weird on modern LCDs, especially when used with something like an RGB2HDMI. The picture looks almost too perfect.

 

[AmpleApricots]

Old systems look kinda weird on modern LCDs, especially when used with something like an RGB2HDMI. The picture looks almost too perfect.

It's how we would've wanted them to look, if we had the tech. Various CRT emulation I have seen over the years makes me believe that people aren't really clear on what they want. CRTs didn't look like this and if they did, we would've probably tried to replace them with something better ASAP.

I maintain that people just know KAHWY or AJSHF 27" 1080p blur-o-vision "gamer" monitors for $50-$70 and have no idea just how good an actually expensive LCD can look like. I have IPS panels here that aren't far away from OLED in perceived quality, ran next to one (which I did). $600-$1000 for a good computer monitor is a worthwhile investment. Good CRTs weren't much cheaper back in the day either. Defintively also worse.

It's kinda like the same with pixel art, people now have a very distorted view of what pixel arts reasoning was and even how it usually looked like. I blame social media and social media hiveminds (which are usually terminally online trannies) deciding on The One Objectively Correct Interpretation (tm) and applying it to everything. It's all very autistic.

 

[残念。]

CRT shaders are awful because they seem to want to emulate near dead tubes with blown out drive/cutoff settings. If you play an old console on an old tv, even consumer stuff can be pretty sharp.

 

[Susanna]

OLED is the best display technology, it offers larger panels and supports the higher resolutions and framerates of modern tech, while keeping the motion clarity of CRTs, while also improving on the blacks and brightness.

 

[Gatdam Animal Person]

OLED is the best display technology, it offers larger panels and supports the higher resolutions and framerates of modern tech, while keeping the motion clarity of CRTs, while also improving on the blacks and brightness.

Like CRTs, they can have bad burn in issues. However on the bright side, it consumes much less power than even a LCD screen!

 

[残念。]

I don't know why the display tech discussion online has to be so autistic with people showing each other numbers and graphs to explain why their team is better. I use what I do because I like how it looks, simple as. If your old games look nice on an old hunk of junk, do it. But don't be that guy who only powers the thing up to take pictures of SNES title screens.

 

[Pee Cola]

The timing on this video is impeccable. Australian vintage Mac repair YouTuber Branchus Creations just released a video about this analog VHF/UHF TV transmitter. Looks like a fun way to watch modern video sources on an old analog CRT, such as setting up your own (very) local 24/7 TV station using a Plex server.

 

[#lurker]

keeping the motion clarity of CRTs

Even with BFI OLEDs aren't as good as CRT motion clarity.

 

[mlanguishi]

Reminds me of the time the Technology Connections mongoloid talked about how he spilled kerosene everywhere in his indoor studio and almost burnt the place down whilst demonstrating a storm lantern (iirc he'd either forgotten that he'd already filled it or he misremembered how much fuel was left inside).
These people really shouldn't be giving advice to other people.

Replying to old post, I'd totally forgotten about this thread but Tech connections did this absolutely batshit insane 'experiment' recently where he rigs up industrial powered ceiling fans to test if they 'reduce the weight' of the whole death trap by blowing air. It looks like something out of any Saw movie and/or the tunnel monster chase in In The Mouth of Madness. It has exposed hot wires and everything you'd want to kill with that or decapitation or whatever.

 

[Crispy Jakes]

Like CRTs, they can have bad burn in issues. However on the bright side, it consumes much less power than even a LCD screen!

Unless you're using them commercially OLED burn-in hasn't been a problem for several years. It only ever happens now when the screens are showing food menus/airport departures/etc with static elements for 24 hours a day and they change the layout after a year.

The frequently parroted case of the boomer who watches CNN/Fox every waking hour still aren't going to get the logo or ticker burnt in because broadcast television has advertisements every 2 minutes.

Who cares if McDonalds or Heathrow Airport fuck up their screens? It's a non-issue. Nobody reading this thread are going to be using them in a way that will cause burn in.

 

[Kalsarikännit]

Unless you're using them commercially OLED burn-in hasn't been a problem for several years. It only ever happens now when the screens are showing food menus/airport departures/etc with static elements for 24 hours a day and they change the layout after a year.

The frequently parroted case of the boomer who watches CNN/Fox every waking hour still aren't going to get the logo or ticker burnt in because broadcast television has advertisements every 2 minutes.

Who cares if McDonalds or Heathrow Airport fuck up their screens? It's a non-issue. Nobody reading this thread are going to be using them in a way that will cause burn in.

This, but with CRTs

Unless you’ve got an arcade machine plugged in 24/7, an enthusiast isn’t going to use their CRT enough for burn-in to be an issue.

 

[残念。]

I haven't actually seen that many windows taskbars burnt into tubes, but they usually had cool screen savers back then, now not so much. You get to live with that boring black screen.

 

[Migraine Box]

I haven't actually seen that many windows taskbars burnt into tubes, but they usually had cool screen savers back then, now not so much. You get to live with that boring black screen.

I've seen several former workstation monitors with the NT login burnt in. Been a while since I've messed with NT4.0, so I guess the screensavers didn't activate when logged out of a user account?

 

[Susanna]

I've seen several former workstation monitors with the NT login burnt in. Been a while since I've messed with NT4.0, so I guess the screensavers didn't activate when logged out of a user account?
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Probably wasn't seen as an issue. NT4 was a workstation OS, and corporations would replace CRTs before they burned in too badly. For the 90s you can basically assume a two year replacement cycle, technology was advancing pretty rapidly and x86 was still fighting MIPS and Alpha over the workstation market. For NT it wasn't really a case of preserving existing hardware so much as it was trying to push for lower cost new hardware using economies of scale. RISC still outperformed x86, but it was getting narrow and x86 was a fraction of the cost.

 

[Ahriman]

Great job.

A shame Clint isn't good with electronics, he could try and have some of his stuff saved.

 

[Ahriman]

New 50Cal Guy vid just dropped.