Epic Games General Thread - Its time to talk about what the AAA gaming industry does not understand about the PC console.

CheezzyMach said:
If Epic wants exclusives for their store why don't they just fund them themselves like Sony,Microsoft and Nintendo do for their consoles instead of poaching games from Steam?
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Well, because what can they develop? All they have is Fortnite, they pretty much gutted the Unreal remake.
 
CheezzyMach said:
If Epic wants exclusives for their store why don't they just fund them themselves like Sony,Microsoft and Nintendo do for their consoles instead of poaching games from Steam?
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Because they have a bunch of money they're willing to spend and for some reason aren't willing to spend a bunch of time on it.

If it was easy for them to do, they would absolutely be trying to poach games from Nintendo/Sony/MS platforms.
 
The tired cat said:
Well, because what can they develop? All they have is Fortnite, they pretty much gutted the Unreal remake.
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They don't have to develop anything themselves just pay other studios to do it. Seems smarter than poaching already finished games and pissing people off.
 
One of the few times a clickbait title is hilarious.
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CheezzyMach said:
They don't have to develop anything themselves just pay other studios to do it. Seems smarter than poaching already finished games and pissing people off.
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Its also cheaper since they'd get 100% of the return on it.

Nova Prime said:
One of the few times a clickbait title is hilarious.
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That's kind of funny. Though does Destiny 2 really have that huge a player base for this to be significant?
 
Secret Asshole said:
You might have a chance to e-mail Kickstarter and say that the product wasn't delivered as promised and that they used deceptive practices since it was still on Steam and you never would have committed money to a project knowing it would be an Epic exclusive. That's the route I would take.
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I personally wouldn't do that because i didn't give the developers of Shenmue any money as that sounds like a colossally stupid thing to do. I was coming more from a hypothetical standpoint.
SpiceWeasel21 said:
Oh are they ever and now they are receiving official responses that DS and Ys Net won't do shit about it. A lawsuit from the fanbase won't go anywhere. Jurisdiction alone would be a minefield. About the only thing they can do is report the campaign to Kickstarter for false advertising. They can also try for a charge back with their CC companies, though after 2+ years I can't imagine that will work. Maybe in the EU.
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That's why i was wondering about groups like the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC), they've won against massive groups on grounds that if you have taken Australian money then you must abide by its consumer protection rules and can be hauled into AUS court. Three big things they constantly go after is no refunds, false advertising and bait and switch tactics. It'd be interesting to see their take on the situation and how that could impact kickstarter, DS, Ys and Epic. I also think chargebacks could possibly work from commonwealth countries as no product has been delivered.
 
Well, I didn't mean you personally, just someone who backed it and paid for it.
 
CheezzyMach said:
If Epic wants exclusives for their store why don't they just fund them themselves like Sony,Microsoft and Nintendo do for their consoles instead of poaching games from Steam?
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I think their problem is that their chinese partner has some problems with western governments.
also they are behaving realy strangely, you have to go to gog to get older Unreal games.
 
Stoneheart said:
I think their problem is that their chinese partner has some problems with western governments.
also they are behaving realy strangely, you have to go to gog to get older Unreal games.
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You can still buy Unreal Gold, UT GotY, UT 3 and UT 2004 on Steam.
 
It's not like they don't have the money to buy back the rights. I genuinely think they do not care at all about Unreal. Like not a fuck. That shit has to be cheap to take off the platform. But they don't seem to care.

Which is a shame, because competitive twitch shooters don't really exist anymore besides Doom making a resurgence. And I even found the UT Gold SP campaign to be fun.

They're spending all this money on games for what's essentially a glorified Fortnite launcher when there is still a market for Unreal. I remember how hyped people were and it turned into a big nothing.

They genuinely want to replace Valve, feeling they need no first party games other than Fortnite.
 
I agree that it isn't a monopoly shit-posting aside and rather I think need Steam needs competition because I think anything that exists will be better with competition. I just wish that competition didn't act like their entire user base was filled with GAMERS RISE UP types. You treat your entire fanbase like children because of how a few act and you expect them to like you? Fix your store and fuck your shady business bullshit. Epic is like that one fucking retarded teacher who punished all kids for the one fucking retard in the room.
 
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DoofComoose said:
I agree that it isn't a monopoly shit-posting aside and rather I think need Steam needs competition because I think anything that exists will be better with competition. I just wish that competition didn't act like their entire user base was filled with GAMERS RISE UP types. You treat your entire fanbase like children because of how a few act and you expect them to like you? Fix your store and fuck your shady business bullshit. Epic is like that one fucking exceptional teacher who punished all kids for the one fucking exceptional individual in the room.
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Well, that's the issue. Why bother fixing their store and improving it, when they can just throw dump trucks of money at other companies to have 'em for a year, then later have Sweeney go on about how "these dumb peasants don't understand the good we're doing! Feeble minded fools!"
 
There's nothing inherently wrong with competition. I remember when EA launched Origin and there was definitely some degree of backlash, but nothing this big, probably because the exclusivity has always been for EA games only, and they did allow you to take a lot of your Steam games over to Origin via keys, while not actually taking them away from your Steam account.

I think the fact that they're just deadass pulling stuff from Steam that originally was slated for Steam is what a lot of people aren't happy about. It'd be like if McDonald's suddenly bought the exclusive rights to make chicken nuggets, and suddenly every other restaurant that served chicken nuggets of some variety had to stop making them.
 
I just don't think Epic is really competition at all. Steam offers so much more to developers than just a simplistic price cut. That's why they take a larger amount more than Epic. Epic really isn't catering to consumers, its catering to developers. Which is ultimately fucktarded. No reviews, no forums, no community features, no workshop, no mods. Why am I purchasing anything over there, except for the reason that Epic is poaching games? There's no reason for me to do so.

GoG offers you DRM free games and older games that have been optimized for modern machines. I mean, look at fucking GoG Galaxy and all the features it offers: https://www.gog.com/galaxy. Its still a bit behind Steam but it destroys whatever Epic is currently offering. The singular reason to go to Epic is to buy titles they have bought with Chinese money and have used Steam to advertise. So why the fuck should I even bother with it? None of these shills have ever given a half-way decent reason I should purchase anything over there over GoG or Steam.
 
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That was..very hard to watch. Think I made it about two minutes before I couldn't be bothered anymore. It's amazing that guy has any subscribers at all.

Secret Asshole said:
I just don't think Epic is really competition at all. Steam offers so much more to developers than just a simplistic price cut. That's why they take a larger amount more than Epic. Epic really isn't catering to consumers, its catering to developers. Which is ultimately fucktarded. No reviews, no forums, no community features, no workshop, no mods. Why am I purchasing anything over there, except for the reason that Epic is poaching games? There's no reason for me to do so.
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There is absolutely no reason to buy a single exclusive on EGS. You don't reinforce bad behavior; you mock it mercilessly until the entity partaking in said behavior either falls in line or implodes. As it stands now, my money is most definitely on the latter..

Just ride out the temporary grief and feeling of loss over that game you really wanted to play. It'll get better in so much as a year's time as the Tencent/Epic "games exclusives" money pit dries up and EGS bears a whole bunch of rotten fruit in kind.
 
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The tired cat said:
What I find funny about this video, is the tweet below with the guy trying to tap dance how he isn't planning to get an Epic account and yet in his video he's busy defending them.

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Video: "In a publicly traded company"

Epic isn't publicly traded you dumb ape. Unless I missed that news.

I'm sure he said some other words that maybe matter in that video, but when his defense about "Sweeny isn't lying" seems to heavily lean on this "fact" well I don't actually care what he says after that, and he sounds obnoxious so I doubly don't care to hear him out. The comments in that twitter are exceptional too. "Oh Steam gamerz are gonna be mad at E3 LOL" yeah we just had to screw over people's kickstarter for the revival of a cult classic people have wanted for nearly 2 decades to accomplish that. We need to own Steam, just like the libs, by any means necessary RISE UP DOWN WITH STEAM.
 
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