Ethical concerns

[CalmMyTits]

Like others have said, Chris is his own best troll. People have done their damnedest to help him. He just refuses to help himself, he wants everyone else to do all the dirty work because he believes himself to be an innocent victim.

If he really wanted to start clean, he would have to stop being Christian Weston Chandler. All he has to do when he fills out job applications is to use Christoper or Chris Chandler. There are other Chris Chandlers out there, I've Googled it. The first page of Christoper Chandler has NOTHING to do with Sonichu, Chris-Chan, etc. Christopher was the name he was born with anyway, and if he went back to that he could have a clean start.

 

[Saney]

You are so retarded.

Don't insult other users.

 

[CatParty]

Chris is the engineer of his own trainwreck. Metaphorically, he doesn't realize he's crapped himself. (And I guess literally. )

 

[IceBeam]

Like others have said, Chris is his own best troll. People have done their damnedest to help him. He just refuses to help himself, he wants everyone else to do all the dirty work because he believes himself to be an innocent victim.

If he really wanted to start clean, he would have to stop being Christian Weston Chandler. All he has to do when he fills out job applications is to use Christoper or Chris Chandler. There are other Chris Chandlers out there, I've Googled it. The first page of Christoper Chandler has NOTHING to do with Sonichu, Our Pet Lolcow, etc. Christopher was the name he was born with anyway, and if he went back to that he could have a clean start.

I agree that it wouldn't be impossible or even extremely challenging to do, even by Chris standards. Hell, just some weight loss, hygiene, and a new, less conspicuous wardrobe would do it. The thing is, he won't.

 

[Lady Houligan]

You're fighting a losing battle here.

I don't see a battle. I never presented an argument, but simply a discussion topic. A few people here misunderstand my post, and maybe I was a bit vague.

Put in terms that even slow-in-the-minds can understand: "I'm just curious if anybody else in the CWC community has ever considered if/to what extent we affect Chris' life and the direction thereof, for good or bad. Sorry if it seemed like I had some agenda, but I thought that much was at least pretty clear.

There's been multiple discussions over the short time I've been here about noting that Chris has observed things on here and interpreted in his own autistic way. Because of his raging narcissism, it's not so much that we interfere with, let alone affect, his life: it's that he cannot stop looking over here to see what we're saying about him in an attempt to stroke his ego and then with fuel to stoke his victimization fire.

 

[Marvin]

Well, I really doubt the internet would cause Chris problems IRL that any other average person couldn't trivially bullshit their way out of.

But even if, hypothetically, all the trolls and troll material vanished from the world tomorrow, Chris would still be stuck in his same that he's always been. It's not a terribly practical issue with Chris, honestly.

 

[Pikonic]

Like others have said, Chris is his own best troll. People have done their damnedest to help him. He just refuses to help himself, he wants everyone else to do all the dirty work because he believes himself to be an innocent victim.

If he really wanted to start clean, he would have to stop being Christian Weston Chandler. All he has to do when he fills out job applications is to use Christoper or Chris Chandler. There are other Chris Chandlers out there, I've Googled it. The first page of Christoper Chandler has NOTHING to do with Sonichu, Our Pet Lolcow, etc. Christopher was the name he was born with anyway, and if he went back to that he could have a clean start.

I agree that it wouldn't be impossible or even extremely challenging to do, even by Chris standards. Hell, just some weight loss, hygiene, and a new, less conspicuous wardrobe would do it. The thing is, he won't.

I think you left out a problem, he will never give up his name. He will always be Christian Weston Chandler. He thinks he can fix his name recognition before dropping the Weston. Before tomgirls, before Sonichu, before every contest he's ever won, before his fucking artistic legacy he left at MHS, the ONE thing that makes him who he is (in his opinion) is his name. He can never say "hi I'm Chris/Chris Chandler/Christian/etc." He is Christian Weston Chandler formerly Christopher Weson Chandler and he'll come out of the closet before he introduces himself otherwise.

 

[milkshark]

Put in terms that even slow-in-the-minds can understand: "I'm just curious if anybody else in the CWC community has ever considered if/to what extent we affect Chris' life and the direction thereof, for good or bad.

No, I don't feel guilty about being interested in Chris Chan.

 

[IceBeam]

Put in terms that even slow-in-the-minds can understand: "I'm just curious if anybody else in the CWC community has ever considered if/to what extent we affect Chris' life and the direction thereof, for good or bad.

No, I don't feel guilty about being interested in Our Pet Lolcow.

Neither do I.

 

[CalmMyTits]

Like others have said, Chris is his own best troll. People have done their damnedest to help him. He just refuses to help himself, he wants everyone else to do all the dirty work because he believes himself to be an innocent victim.

If he really wanted to start clean, he would have to stop being Christian Weston Chandler. All he has to do when he fills out job applications is to use Christoper or Chris Chandler. There are other Chris Chandlers out there, I've Googled it. The first page of Christoper Chandler has NOTHING to do with Sonichu, Our Pet Lolcow, etc. Christopher was the name he was born with anyway, and if he went back to that he could have a clean start.

I agree that it wouldn't be impossible or even extremely challenging to do, even by Chris standards. Hell, just some weight loss, hygiene, and a new, less conspicuous wardrobe would do it. The thing is, he won't.

I think you left out a problem, he will never give up his name. He will always be Christian Weston Chandler. He thinks he can fix his name recognition before dropping the Weston. Before tomgirls, before Sonichu, before every contest he's ever won, before his fucking artistic legacy he left at MHS, the ONE thing that makes him who he is (in his opinion) is his name. He can never say "hi I'm Chris/Chris Chandler/Christian/etc." He is Christian Weston Chandler formerly Christopher Weson Chandler and he'll come out of the closet before he introduces himself otherwise.

I know. I'm just saying; And I do admit that part of me hopes Chris sees this. He is so adamant about people NOT LOOKING AT GOOGLE RESULTS and just going by Chris or Christoper would pretty much eliminate all negative Google results. (as long as he stuck by that name and did not revert back to Christian) it's such a simple, sweet solution to his Internet infamy.

This wouldn't solve his real life problems like poor hygiene or diet or being stuck in the hoard, but at least as Chris/Christopher Chandler, he would have a total clean start on the Internet.

 

[Bgheff]

Icebeam, i found a good example for you.

Here is a clear example of Chris being a shit in public and getting called out on it. Naturally, he solely blames the trolls for making him "internet famous" for why secutrity wanted to talk to him instead of him assuming it had something to do with leaving his creepy Game Place posters around. The trolls don't ruin Chris's life, Chris does and simply blames the problems he causes at stores on trolls rather than his antisocial behavior.

We don't influence his life. Other than ween kids calling his cell phone (since he refuses to change the number) he gets little grief from internet people. His current real life problems are simply because the girls he knew in highschool aren't jumping at the chance to fuck him.

 

[The Nameless One]

Chris was on a fast track to nowhere long before his Internet infamy. The attraction sign, the explosive encounter with Mary Lee Walsh, getting kicked out of the Game Place, various other weird shit, that all happened long before he was discovered online. Even in recent Christory, there's been little major interference by trolls, and yet Chris still just sits around whining about his life and doing nothing to improve it.

I wonder sometimes how his life would have been different had he never been discovered--if the Internet were just conveniently looking away whenever he poked his head in. I think the only difference would be that his 20s would have been far less exciting.

 

[IceBeam]

Icebeam, i found a good example for you.

Here is a clear example of Chris being a shit in public and getting called out on it. Naturally, he solely blames the trolls for making him "internet famous" for why secutrity wanted to talk to him instead of him assuming it had something to do with leaving his creepy Game Place posters around. The trolls don't ruin Chris's life, Chris does and simply blames the problems he causes at stores on trolls rather than his antisocial behavior.

We don't influence his life. Other than ween kids calling his cell phone (since he refuses to change the number) he gets little grief from internet people. His current real life problems are simply because the girls he knew in highschool aren't jumping at the chance to fuck him.

Not that I'm trying to defend him, but those posts are well over a year old, and not too long after the Game Place showdown and subsequent court case. Other than just normal bizarre and autistic posts, his Facebook has been rather dry as of late. Could he be wising up?

 

[brooklynbailiff]

Could he be wising up?

No.

 

[Globe]

I agree that it wouldn't be impossible or even extremely challenging to do, even by Chris standards. Hell, just some weight loss, hygiene, and a new, less conspicuous wardrobe would do it. The thing is, he won't.

I think you've pretty much summed your own discussion piece up better than anybody else has, IceBeam. Yeah, Chris could go by another alias and (sic) disassociate himself from at least a significant part of his internet infamy, but he won't. He could cut that greasy mop and lose the "tom-girl" thing so he'd no longer look like a fucking hormonal, alcoholic clown in public, but he won't. He could start putting in job applications so he could at least legitimately say he's seeking employment, but he won't. He could change his number so he'd at least stop getting the calls, but he won't. Chris puts literally zero effort into improving any aspect of his life. That isn't the CWCki's fault, or Barb's fault, or really anybody's but his.

Also, I think it's worth it to mention that some of the worst things to have happened to him (Gameplace banning, arrests and expulsion from PVCC, etc.) had nothing to do with the trolling, those events were all just consequences of him being a 20-something with the mind of a spoiled-rotten brat, thinking he didn't have to play by the rules and his autism would allow him some sort of immunity from his behavior.

 

[IceBeam]

I agree that it wouldn't be impossible or even extremely challenging to do, even by Chris standards. Hell, just some weight loss, hygiene, and a new, less conspicuous wardrobe would do it. The thing is, he won't.

I think you've pretty much summed your own discussion piece up better than anybody else has, IceBeam. Yeah, Chris could go by another alias and (sic) disassociate himself from at least a significant part of his internet infamy, but he won't. He could cut that greasy mop and lose the "tom-girl" thing so he'd no longer look like a fucking hormonal, alcoholic clown in public, but he won't. He could start putting in job applications so he could at least legitimately say he's seeking employment, but he won't. He could change his number so he'd at least stop getting the calls, but he won't. Chris puts literally zero effort into improving any aspect of his life. That isn't the CWCki's fault, or Barb's fault, or really anybody's but his.

Also, I think it's worth it to mention that some of the worst things to have happened to him (Gameplace banning, arrests and expulsion from PVCC, etc.) had nothing to do with the trolling, those events were all just consequences of him being a 20-something with the mind of a spoiled-rotten brat, thinking he didn't have to play by the rules and his autism would allow him some sort of immunity from his behavior.

Actually, he did cut the hair.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

 

[Globe]

Actually, he did cut the hair.

^ We're looking at the same updated fb picture, right? In the words of Matthew Devoria, doesn't show at all.

 

[IceBeam]

Actually, he did cut the hair.

^ We're looking at the same updated fb picture, right? In the words of Matthew Devoria, doesn't show at all.

The CWCki says that Barb forced him to cut it recently.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

God, Barb told him that "Tomgirls aren't real" and Chris didn't buy it.

You really think Chris will be forced to cut his hair? He associates his old look with being trolled in 2008-2010, he's not stopping Tomgirl for Barb.