Disaster EU authority demands real-time surveillance of phones and laptops starting 2025

Another bespoke translation by yours truly. Original source [A] at Apollo News
Unfortunately the Euractiv article which is being referred to is behind a paywall - if someone supplies it to me, I'll gladly update this OP

2024-11-27 Update: Added the HLG statement as PDF and individual screenshots, thanks @Garamok

EU authority demands real-time surveillance of phones and laptops starting 2025​

A EU authority demands that the Commission permits a real-time surveillance of phones and laptops starting in 2025, in order to fight against organized crime. Messages should be readable even before they get sent or after they have been received.


The transparent phone: For fighting crime, privacy is to be eroded. (symbolic image)

A EU authority is demanding real-time surveillance of phones and laptops starting in 2025. They demand that the police shall be able to read messages in the entire European Union in real-time. The occasion: fighting organized crime. For the "High-Level Group (HLG) on access to data for effective law enforcement", data protection and privacy play nothing but a formal role.

The HLG consists of members from the EU Commission, representatives of the EU member states, and law enforcement agencies. On November 22, the HLG demanded that the EU Commission submit a proposition in the coming year to allow a real-time access on communications data. This is reported by Euractiv. Already in May, the HLG presented its preliminary research results in a report. The group was set up in 2023 and works on finding out how law enforcement agencies can get an easier access to data in order to fight against organized crime. In a concluding report from November 15, the group presented its results and demands.

Thus, the concluding report criticized that the different regulations regarding data retention in the individual EU states lead to problems in cross-border criminal prosecution. Specifically, the HLG demanded in their preliminary report from May that the industry should be mandated to cooperate with the agencies so that the police gets access to data that allows for an identification of users, such as the storing of IP addresses. In addition, they demand that non-cooperative electronic communication services shall be subject to prohibitive sanctions.

Read messages even before they are sent​

Already in May, they demanded that there shall be a EU initiative which allows for looking at "data in transit", thus do real-time surveillance. In the concluding report from November 15, the HLG doubled down on the demand and strongly demanded that the Commission issue a corresponding proposition in 2025. By real-time surveillance, the HLG means that messages are able to be read even before they are sent, or shortly after they reached the recipient.

In the concluding report, they also said that the fact that they can't access the data in real-time allegedly causes big difficulties for crime prevention. Police officers have to make use of methods like installing cameras or microphones, which are dangerous for the officers. If you are not able to read messages, all other persons surrounding a suspect must be surveilled too. The HLG also demands more funding in the coming EU budget to stock up on means for "digital forensic tools".

Currently, there is no mutual regulation for mass data retention in the European Union because the European Court of Justice has declared the prior guideline on data retention invalid in 2014. The European Data Protection Committee criticized the HLG's demands in a statement on November 4. The demands would strongly invade the right to data protection and privacy. The committee also criticized the demand to weaken encryption.

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Statement 5/2024 on the Recommendations of the High-Level Group on Access to Data for Effective Law Enforcement​

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[NevskyProspekt]

I’d say the US wins out over the EU on this one, but then I remember the NSA and PRISM exist with the support of the Patriot Act. Two sides of the same shitty coin on both sides of the Atlantic.

 

[SanctedElectromagnetism]

I'm so glad that my countries politicians are either too stupid, incompetent or corrupt to push something like this into effect.

 

[Fartificial Insmelligence]

I predict a drop in phone sales, an uptick in carrier pigeons passing notes between any actual terrorists, and the arrests of a few retards who decided to try and see if the cops would show up when they texted wrongthink to meemaw!

 

[Garamok]

I predict a drop in phone sales, an uptick in carrier pigeons passing notes between any actual terrorists, and the arrests of a few retards who decided to try and see if the cops would show up when they texted wrongthink to meemaw!

It will be enforced and implemented in Germany. That is for sure. German politicians love censorship and using laws for personal gain: Ricarda Lang is sueing Americans for calling her fat. If you check out Ricarda's Twitter posts, she'll always have responses in her replies, either calling her fat or calling her out on her bullshit. HLG claims their goal is to enable crime fighting. I think we all know that that's a lie. In Germany, it's going to be used to fight "hate speech" and "racism, transphobia, islamophobia". They're not going to snuff out pedophiles, they're not going to focus on drug cartels, they're not going to focus on human trafficking rings. It's blatantly obvious.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

are you saying organized crime isn't a real concern and priority? whatre you some AfD nerd?

It's not. How many organized criminals are there? Ten thousand? Eighty thousand? A pitiful number when compared to the total population.
But people ending up voting wrong is a real concern that needs to be policed because there's a lot of people getting the wrong ideas right now. Because of all the organized crime.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

I predict a drop in phone sales, an uptick in carrier pigeons passing notes between any actual terrorists, and the arrests of a few retards who decided to try and see if the cops would show up when they texted wrongthink to meemaw!

They'll just outlaw pigeons and create teams of snipers that shoot down all pigeons that aren't tagged and registered in the central pigeon database.

 

[Da Grim Reaper]

All North Korean phones have an app called “TraceViewer,” which allows the government to see what document or video files users have watched on their phones.

Some North Koreans have used circumvention programs to get around the app to open illegal files. The source explained that the government believes that IT experts are involved in developing and selling the programs and has thus moved to crackdown on their activities.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

At l least they won't be crazy enough to ban cash payments.

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Wait what?! Context?

All North Korean phones have an app called “TraceViewer,” which allows the government to see what document or video files users have watched on their phones.
Some North Koreans have used circumvention programs to get around the app to open illegal files. The source explained that the government believes that IT experts are involved in developing and selling the programs and has thus moved to crackdown on their activities.

Unironically going to be the EU in a decade or two. Because we know how their elites think when it comes to disobedience of their absolute control. NK and ccp's information/media control is exactly the type of thing their mentality begets.

America bros and the 1st still winning!

 

[ZazietheBeast]

that's a feature, not a bug. Create a problem. Then create a solution that is in no way to solve the problem you created.

Great fucking plan when the reason why you can't have your hi-tech dystopia is because your imports are quite hungry for copper and other valuable materials their hi-tech dystopia demands.

 

[Deer]

Just one more encryption backdoor and crime will be solved forever. Please god just let me have this backdoor, it will stop all crime I swear. I promise I can fix all the crime if you just let me have one more encryption backdoor.

One step closer to the FOVRTH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION. Klaus Schwab won.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Slow down, bucko, we're gonna need your complete birth certificate, a notarized photocopy of your identification, your phone password, and a sample of your front teeth before you're allowed to use that computer

I'm just here to play Diablo 2 for 72 hours straight. Sheesh.

I’m not sure that would help though? You can for sure not use the OS like the Microsoft one that wants to take a snapshot of what you do every few seconds and store it.
Someone more knowledgeable than me can say but I thought the back doors are in the chips themselves? The parts you use to build your laptop will be spying on you. If you air gap it, it’ll store it and phone home when it’s connected.
Paper and pen it is.

Unless you build every part yourself, you'll have at least one backdoor even if you use a CPU not made by AMD or Intel. That isn't getting into software. You're not safe from spying on Linux unless you go full turbosperg.

 

[Historical Strelkov]

the EU is the Organized Crime

 

[Male Idiot]

To the eu glownigger that will read this:

I hope Putler makes a colony out of you faggot kikes.

 

[Garamok]

Best would be to live in a village and avoid the internet. Don't use phones, just visit your family and friends like how we used to do it back in the days.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Best would be to live in a village and avoid the internet. Don't use phones, just visit your family and friends like how we used to do it back in the days.

In all honesty I think anyone younger than maybe 30 has absolutely no idea how to actually do this.

 

[Garamok]

In all honesty I think anyone younger than maybe 30 has absolutely no idea how to actually do this.

It shouldn't be normal that everyone is always available online. Visiting family and friends and making plans worked fine without the internet. And if someone wasn't home, that was fine too, we met them another time.