Infected Euphoric atheists

[Dudeofteenage]

The blind worship of a handful of popular scientists isn't terribly endearing, either.

 

[c-no]

By that logic, would it mean the stars aren't made of atoms? Would it be wrong if one said that everything is composed of atoms?

 

[autisticdragonkin]

By that logic, would it mean the stars aren't made of atoms? Would it be wrong if one said that everything is composed of atoms?

Black science guy is always right. Even the glory of his image is enough to make something right.

 

[Morbid Boredom]

By that logic, would it mean the stars aren't made of atoms? Would it be wrong if one said that everything is composed of atoms?

It's a joke. Mocking how people tend to hang on Tyson's every word.

 

[c-no]

It's a joke. Mocking how people tend to hang on Tyson's every word.

Thanks for clearing that out, I didn't know until just now. It is rather funny seeing as how people would hang on to every word despite touting to be superior in some way. Would it be wrong to say that most if not all would at some point hang on to every word of something?

 

[Silver]

It's a joke. Mocking how people tend to hang on Tyson's every word.

True story, my grandpa (a Civil War buff who's also going slightly senile) once explained to my mom how Lincoln "emailed" his troops some instructions, and even illustrated it with the physical motion of typing. He didn't seem to get the problem because he just wasn't thinking about it.

On topic I actually am an atheist but euphoric atheists make me cringe so hard

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

Because when people try to sell me that the Earth was created a couple thousand years ago by God, they tend to go into wackjob conspiracy spiels about how all of paleontology, geology, etc. that outlines how utterly wrong that is is simply reinforcing the "conspiracy" and "religion" that is Science.

They're called theories for a reason, if we knew they'd be laws and facts.

Spoiler

duh

 

[Sanae Kochiya]

They're called theories for a reason, if we knew they'd be laws and facts.

Spoiler

duh

Assuming you're talking about the "Theory of Evolution," I'm... gonna avoid sperging out.

But to make this as short as possible... "Theory" in Science in a lot different than "Theory" as we understand it in its normal English definition. The same with "Laws" such as "Newton's Laws of Gravity."

If I'm fucking up and getting hardbaited, feel free to rain down the autistic ratings.

 

[Sanic]

 

[Watcher]

They're called theories for a reason, if we knew they'd be laws and facts.

Spoiler

duh

Assuming you're talking about the "Theory of Evolution," I'm... gonna avoid sperging out.

But to make this as short as possible... "Theory" in Science in a lot different than "Theory" as we understand it in its normal English definition. The same with "Laws" such as "Newton's Laws of Gravity."

If I'm fucking up and getting hardbaited, feel free to rain down the autistic ratings.

Even if Chuckslaughter is baiting it is still something a lot of people legitimately do not understand. Theories in a scientific context are vastly different than a layman context. There are websites constructed to point this out in the most clear way possible. The biggest thing is that "Laws" and "Theories" in the scientific context mean completely different things.
http://www.notjustatheory.com/

In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be.

Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law.

This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Lawsdescribe, and theories explain.

To prove my point. Atomic theory was never promoted to a "law" or a "fact". Not even after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It forever remains a theory. Just like cell theory remains a theory despite almost everyone accepting it more or less as a fact due to modern medicine.

 

[Ohoolihan]

It's a joke. Mocking how people tend to hang on Tyson's every word.

There was someone a while back who would take innocuous-sounding quotes from Hitler and put them on images of Tyson or Sagan and post them to /r/atheism to see how many upvotes he could get. It would usually reach the front page before someone figured it out and the mods deleted the thread.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

There was someone a while back who would take innocuous-sounding quotes from Hitler and put them on images of Tyson or Sagan and post them to /r/atheism to see how many upvotes he could get

That's really, really easy to do. Like most politicians, Hitler said a lot of really ambiguous, vague, inoffensive stuff.

 

[WWWWolf]

some of these videos are really cringeworthy

PUT THE BIBLE IN THE FICTION SECTION

*facepalm*
The pharaohs of Egypt found that joke slightly dated.

Of course reddit is big into it
http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism

Well yes! I suggest this one - mostly the same content, just without the veneer. http://www.reddit.com/r/magicskyfairy

 

[Abethedemon]

Bumping this thread because of this video

 

[Linako 2.0]

 

[Mrs Paul]

I guess I'm lucky I didn't grow up in the Bible Belt -- this area is largely Catholic, and I grew up in a fairly liberal Catholic family. And I was around a lot of liberation theology types, so that probably helped.

The guy in the library is being a dick for a number of reasons.

First and probably foremost, the counter staff don't decide placement policy, and confronting them about it is pointless. It's like giving the guy who serves you your Big Mac shit for McDonalds' deforestation of the Amazon.

Secondly, it's not like the Bible is filed under Indisputable Historic Fact. It's under "Religion", and I'm pretty sure that the only people taking the Bible entirely seriously as a historical document are going to do that regardless of where in the library it is. There are plenty of legitimate reasons somebody who doesn't believe in the factual accuracy of the Bible might want to read it - they might want to learn about the beliefs of others, they might want to use it as a historical primary source, they might want to examine its connection to other written works. None of these legitimate reasons are best served by putting it in with the Tom Clancy books.

"Fiction" isn't an umbrella term for everything that's less than totally factually accurate, anyway. Isaac Newton's Philosophiae Naturalis has been largely discredited as a description of the universe, but I don't imagine your average Euphoric Atheist would say that libraries should keep it next to the Michael Newton's books.

To put it very, very simply, "non-fiction" is just anything that isn't a novel or a short-story. Of course, these assholes want to look all badass and say, "we r sooo smart!!! we put teh Bible in with teh fixshun!!!!!!!!" Which just makes them look like turds. Poetry is in non-fiction. Cookbooks, philosophy, true crime, art, comic book collections, video game guides for crying out loud. You mean to tell me that Super Mario Bros. are actual history?

And don't forget the asshats who claim that the only "true" Christians are fundamentalists, because moderate Christians are just a bunch of hypocrites, and they "cherry-pick", or enable the fundies. WTF?


(Count me as a "vague theist". I believe there's a God, but that's pretty much it. )

 

[Too Many Crooks]

The funny thing with these people is that they claim to free their minds of all religious influence... then they obsess over being atheists.

 

[Red_Rager]

The funny thing with these people is that they claim to free their minds of all religious influence... then they obsess over being atheists.

Did I mention that I don't believe in god today? I probably forgot to mention that, nope, your imaginary friend does not exist. Because I totally don't believe in god.

 

[Cosmos]

Oh, God, I've actually had people accuse me of supporting pedophilia, homophobia, and transphobia because I'm Catholic. And I've actually heard "Hitler was Christian!" used unironically. So I guess you guys support everything that Stalin and Pol Pot did, given that they were atheists and all?

I literally can not give less of a fuck if people are atheist or agnostic. The only reason I would be is if I were worried about their soul, but given that I have no right to assume how God judges people after death, I don't concern myself with that (plus, I don't believe that the loving God I put my faith in would damn people who are otherwise good and kind just because they spent their lives not believing in Him). Despite not ever "shoving" my beliefs down anyone's throats (as a general rule of thumb, simply talking about your faith isn't "shoving" it in anyone's faces), I've had my fair share of euphoric atheists accuse me of being a Bible-thumping homophobe who hates free speech; I've also had a few anti-theist Tumblrinas accuse me of having internalized misogyny because HOLY SHIT, DON'T YOU KNOW THAT ALL FORMS OF RELIGION OPPRESS ALL WOMEN EVERYWHERE???

Like seriously, just don't be an asshole. That's all you ever have to do, and it's really not hard. Don't make fun of your relatives' Facebook statuses on r/atheism if they mention something faith-related when all you have to do is ignore it. Don't go off on people who offer to pray for you if you're going through a hard time; it's not an insult, they're just trying to help you in their own way. Don't insult and demean people who happen to be religious but aren't dicks about it. Don't call all religious people stupid, uneducated cretins. Literally just treat people the way you want to be treated and stop generalizing people if you don't want to be generalized yourself. Save your anger for the extremists and stop harassing everyone else.

Geez, that was long. I'm sorry, it's just that I'm so sick of people insulting, patronizing, and demeaning me when I've never hurt anyone.

 

[Too Many Crooks]

A militant atheist walks into a bar. I know this because he told everyone there.

Did anyone post this yet?