Infected Euphoric atheists

What? But the Protestant Reformation actually was a huge setback to the religious oppression of the Catholic Church over Europe.

It certainly had its own negative aspects, but that's what its importance is.
Yeah that's one of my favorite things about euphoric atheists, they don't actually learn about anything religious, they just hear the word Christianity and go on the offensive even if its something they should like, like the Reformation.
 
So is hating on Islam. I remember that being one of the big things a lot of traditional Youtube Atheists and Atheism+ clashed about.

There's no really consistent reason to dislike Judaism and Christianity and not dislike Islam as well. Considering the criticisms of Christianity, such as intolerance toward and abuse of LGBT people and women, not to mention atheists, are even more applicable to Islam taken as a whole, it's hypocritical to make liberal excuses for tolerance of one and not the other.
 
Never Judaism, never Islam, never Zoroastrianism, or Shinto, or Jainism, et cetera, et cetera.
I hear a lot of internet hate for islam.
This guy has multiple videos bashing christians and muslims. He doesn't touch Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Mazdakism, Manicheism, Rodnovery, Asatru, Taoism, Confucianism, Discordianism or even Scientology.
 
I hear a lot of internet hate for islam.

It's usually not specifically from SJW branded atheists, who have a curious blind spot for Islam as an oppressed minority religion (even though it is the second largest and fastest growing religion in the world currently). It is also associated with "people of color." Therefore, atheism should ignore any pernicious influence this religion has while focusing on Christianity exclusively. This is particularly true of the imbeciles associated with "atheism+" which was yet another SJW "let's hijack someone else's platform and insert our shit" project.
 
well as per usual for a thread involving religion this has derailed into debates about word definitions and people chiming in with their own personal beliefs- relevant to the topic at hand or not :P

Can we get back to the video of the guy making a tutorial on moving bibles away from the religious section of his public library? he tries to remember to claim its the historical section but religious slips through a few times!

Philosophical discussions aren't funny, deep thoughts is the place for that. Supreme Gentlemen chimping out way out of all proportion is, and that's what this thread should be for.

The atheism+ crowd were pretty hilarious- getting really mad at atheists for not believing in patriarchy and privilege without proof- yeah they got mad at skeptics for being skeptical.

It then morphed into a cult and unironically began committing all the sins it accused religion of.

theED portal is here: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/index.php?title=Atheism+&diff=prev&oldid=416805&printable=yes
 
Atheism+ Wiki
So that's their Wiki. I have yet to spot a page that has more than five sentences written on it and most articles are just lists of link. Bored members of the kiwifarm will make more extensive Wikis about the some random lolcow in a single evening, than the entire atheism+ community about their ultra important cause in over two years.
 
I guess I'm an apatheist then. More people are familiar with the term "agnostic," however, so I'll just stick with that if I explain my views on religion.

And I totally agree with you on the most vocal atheists usually being the ones who were abused with religion. I had used The Amazing Atheist as an example before, but I think he exemplifies it best; he is so obviously coming from a place of hurt and betrayal that he just radiates it.

While my experiences with Catholicism were nowhere near as traumatic, the negative experiences I had still make me feel bitter. I can only imagine how hurt some of these types must be.
well as per usual for a thread involving religion this has derailed into debates about word definitions and people chiming in with their own personal beliefs- relevant to the topic at hand or not :P

Can we get back to the video of the guy making a tutorial on moving bibles away from the religious section of his public library? he tries to remember to claim its the historical section but religious slips through a few times!

Philosophical discussions aren't funny, deep thoughts is the place for that. Supreme Gentlemen chimping out way out of all proportion is, and that's what this thread should be for.

The atheism+ crowd were pretty hilarious- getting really mad at atheists for not believing in patriarchy and privilege without proof- yeah they got mad at skeptics for being skeptical.

It then morphed into a cult and unironically began committing all the sins it accused religion of.

theED portal is here: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/index.php?title=Atheism+&diff=prev&oldid=416805&printable=yes
I am an ignostic. Although I have had only positive experiences with religion I just simply cannot believe in God because I don't know what the word "God" means. Many of these "Atheists" don't seem to actually bother defining god either.
 
I don't think that's where most euphoric atheists come from though. There seem to be a lot coming from a purely secular background, who never had any direct contact with extreme religion.
I think it can be easy to wildly overestimate how much intelligence and rationality it takes to discard religion, particularly if you've been raised in a relatively secular environment. Unless you were raised in an exclusively religious environment, you may as well gloat about the intellectual qualities that led you to be in favor of democracy or against slavery.
It's usually not specifically from SJW branded atheists, who have a curious blind spot for Islam as an oppressed minority religion (even though it is the second largest and fastest growing religion in the world currently). It is also associated with "people of color." Therefore, atheism should ignore any pernicious influence this religion has while focusing on Christianity exclusively. This is particularly true of the imbeciles associated with "atheism+" which was yet another SJW "let's hijack someone else's platform and insert our shit" project.
I think it is important, if one is a critic of religion, not to accidentally allow one's criticisms to reinforce xenophobic political policies. A lot of Western governments are deliberately promoting what amounts to ethnic discrimination against Muslims, which is a bad thing, regardless of whether you regard the idea of Mohammed flying around in the sky and marrying a child as stupid and wrong.

I've seen many Western leftists react to anti-Muslim policies by fetishizing the religion of Islam in embarrassingly naive ways. However, I don't think there's any way that you're going to find either side of the disagreement free of gads of simplistic morons, and, ultimately, I think those people are more correct than the people who refuse to develop an analysis of the world beyond "RELIGION = BAD." Just my two cents.
How can you make fun of people believing on fate alone when there isn't yet a proven theory of how the universe came to be? There isn't even a proof that there are no alien beings in the world who are so advanced they are, for practical purposes, gods.
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I think it is important, if one is a critic of religion, not to accidentally allow one's criticisms to reinforce xenophobic political policies. A lot of Western governments are deliberately promoting what amounts to ethnic discrimination against Muslims, which is a bad thing, regardless of whether you regard the idea of Mohammed flying around in the sky and marrying a child as stupid and wrong.

The converse, though, is when a solicitous concern for the welfare of minorities who might be the object of xenophobic policies turns into a license to get away with anything from rape up to murder.

In more than one case, ghastly crimes including operating rape gangs and child prostitution rings. Such cowardice is not only a disgrace for the harm it causes to victims, but the furor that ultimately results when the attempt to sweep it under the rug fails probably causes even more harm to the stigmatized group. It's just bad policy.
 
The guy in the library is being a dick for a number of reasons.

First and probably foremost, the counter staff don't decide placement policy, and confronting them about it is pointless. It's like giving the guy who serves you your Big Mac shit for McDonalds' deforestation of the Amazon.

Secondly, it's not like the Bible is filed under Indisputable Historic Fact. It's under "Religion", and I'm pretty sure that the only people taking the Bible entirely seriously as a historical document are going to do that regardless of where in the library it is. There are plenty of legitimate reasons somebody who doesn't believe in the factual accuracy of the Bible might want to read it - they might want to learn about the beliefs of others, they might want to use it as a historical primary source, they might want to examine its connection to other written works. None of these legitimate reasons are best served by putting it in with the Tom Clancy books.

"Fiction" isn't an umbrella term for everything that's less than totally factually accurate, anyway. Isaac Newton's Philosophiae Naturalis has been largely discredited as a description of the universe, but I don't imagine your average Euphoric Atheist would say that libraries should keep it next to the Michael Newton's books.
 
As I said on the Amazing Athiest page, I view religious beliefs (including the lack of them) like having a penis. It's an alright thing to have. But when you start shoving yours down the throat of someone who doesn't want it it becomes a problem.
True. While we all have the right in what to believe and what not to believe in, no one should be obnoxious about it, whether it is Christians or atheist. It doesn't matter if one believes in a diety or believes there is no higher power, especially when not every person cares about what you believe in (which can at least be attested by members of this forum who wouldn't care if one was a Muslim or an apatheist so as long as the religious dick wasn't being swung around, trying to hit people in the heads).
 
They're interested in science because it means they're always right. Browse /sci/ or /pol/ and you'll see it all over the place: "My unexamined biases are unassailably true BECAUSE SCIENCE," even though it's an unreasonable extrapolation of a bunch of anecdotal evidence.

Yeah, these guys wouldn't have a leg to stand on without their scientism. It's easy to feel self-righteous when you think you've discerned some fundamental truth about the universe, which isn't what the scientific method is about at all. All models are wrong, but some are useful.
 
Yeah, these guys wouldn't have a leg to stand on without their scientism. It's easy to feel self-righteous when you think you've discerned some fundamental truth about the universe, which isn't what the scientific method is about at all. All models are wrong, but some are useful.

The blind worship of a handful of popular scientists isn't terribly endearing, either.
 
Yeah, these guys wouldn't have a leg to stand on without their scientism. It's easy to feel self-righteous when you think you've discerned some fundamental truth about the universe, which isn't what the scientific method is about at all. All models are wrong, but some are useful.
"Scientism" is a double edged sword. On one hand, you have the people who say "because science", but do it without the data to back it up. Or use it to jump to an unconnected conclusion, like the stereotypical antitheist. Or try to somehow use science as a moral compass, even though science only describes what is, to the best of our abilities, at this current time. But then you have those wackos that say evidence is sexist, or flat out deny any genetic component to gender personality differences, all while crying "scientism!" at any data that says otherwise. I dislike the term because the crazy SJW types have been becoming more common than the militant antitheists as of late.
 
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