Euphoric atheists

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  • Atheistic countries are far from the only offenders, though. 7 of the 10 countries that were listed as having the worst grades when it comes to government restrictions on religion are Islamic (Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan, Maldives, Malaysia and Indonesia). The rest of the article elaborates on just how restricted freedom of faith is in Muslim countries and how non-Muslim minorities are persecuted. Even though these countries are suppressing non-Muslim religions (and lack of religion) for their own religious reasons, their horrific treatment of non-Muslims and their efforts to purge all other religions and ideologies from their countries until only Islam remains should give you a good idea as to what banning religion looks like.

It's not really fair to lump Uzbekistan in with Saudi Arabia or Iran, because even though it's a majority Muslim country, the religious oppression isn't Muslims against non-Muslims (or a certain sect of Muslims against other sects), but against Islam in general.

The Uzbek government is so afraid of Islamic extremism that it keeps a really tight grip on the practice of Islam, and if anybody starts acting too Muslim-y (grows a beard, carries prayer beads, wears a kufi, etc.) they're liable to be thrown in prison without trial.
 
The absolute least that can be said about being attached to a conventional religion is that so long as you are, you are unlikely to get suckered into one of the truly destructive cults out there. That would probably justify keeping relatively harmless religions around even if you were euphoric enough to think they had literally no other use.

Definitely. While I don't feel that religion is perfect, and I understand there are conflicting passages that espouse violence in varying holy doctrines, I think it's just one of those things we'll have to deal with. All we can do is continue to educate. That's why we need better Science education programs. Most violence caused by religion is most likely violence that would've occurred anyway using a different excuse.

Most of my point was talking about people in the past. They used religion as a way to cope with the changing world because they knew little about it. Now, people can know anything about the world in a moment using the internet, but most choose to ignore it and condemn Science as an enemy of religion, which I have never understood.

I've always thought of religion as a kind of "mirror" into a persons soul, to put it into to the most pretentious way possible.

There's nothing inherently bad about religion, it just by its very nature contorts itself to be whatever someone wants it to be. If someone is naturally a hateful asshole, they'll contort their faith to justify their egregiously cunty behavior. If someone's a charitable, loving person they'll frame their faith to encourage that kind of philanthropy and empathy.

I mean how else can two people read the same exact book and come to two dramatically different conclusions?

I don't feel your definition is pretentious, but I think it also defines spirituality. I definitely agree with your point on interpretation. Some people are looking to pervert and manipulate media to suit their beliefs. That's where cherry-picking of statistics and biased articles come from. Most people are guilty of this, and while most of the time it's rather low-key and unworthy of notice, sometimes it ends up on the news.

A good example are the abolitionists and the anti-abolitionists. They both used the Bible at the forefront of their arguments and the ideologies themselves.
 
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I wonder who liked his comment. :lol:
 
He conveniently forgets to mention how a lot of people in power abuse things to remain in power. These powerful folks took advantage of a system and ran with it, using religion as an excuse to calm the masses.
 
"I'm a freethinker!"
*shamelessly pro-Israel & a Trump supporter*
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Gross, I found another one.
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Anti-theist, racist, and fascist? This one is as charming as shit on the bottom of my shoes.

"Critical thinker", my ass.
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No, we would just have wars over twisted, non-religious ideologies, wars over resources, territory, long-standing feuds, and/or nationalism.

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"Critical thinker", my ass.
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No, we would just have wars over twisted, non-religious ideologies, wars over resources, territory, long-standing feuds, and/or nationalism.

I like the part at the end: "Prone to making the odd gag."

Yeah, I'm a racist and a fascist; but I'm also liable to make a funny here and there.
 
"I'm a freethinker!"
*shamelessly pro-Israel & a Trump supporter*
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Gross, I found another one.
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Regardless of your feelings toward either Donald Trump's campaign or Zionism, being an atheist who supports either does not make one euphoric.
 
The euphoria on my Facebook feed is intensifying in response to the holidays. What really gets me is the sheer bitterness of it: it's like they hate religion so much, they can't stop thinking about it, and they resent it for occupying their thoughts.

If y'all are interested in a palate-cleanser, though, the latest National Geographic has an interesting article on the veneration of the Virgin Mary. Obviously it'll raise some eyebrows (visions and miracles, etc.) but I found it kind of inspiring. One of the things the author talks about is the various ways Mary is viewed in different countries--as the Lady of Guadalupe, the Black Madonna, etc--while being such a straightforward symbol of hope to each one. That's not a bad thing.

Happy holidays, Kiwis.
 
The more one lookes at these WFLAtheism images, the more one can only feel such edge pouring in. As for that red cup, one could counter that by saying the cup is on the countertop but not on screen. Checkmate atheist. In all seriousness though, since WFLAtheism is a group, is there anything worth sharing from its members that lives up to the euphoria cringe?
 
The more one lookes at these WFLAtheism images, the more one can only feel such edge pouring in. As for that red cup, one could counter that by saying the cup is on the countertop but not on screen. Checkmate atheist. In all seriousness though, since WFLAtheism is a group, is there anything worth sharing from its members that lives up to the euphoria cringe?
Just go to the comments. It will make you want to cut yourself from all the edge.
 
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The euphoria on my Facebook feed is intensifying in response to the holidays. What really gets me is the sheer bitterness of it: it's like they hate religion so much, they can't stop thinking about it, and they resent it for occupying their thoughts.

Horseshoe theory, they're just as determined to stamp out the very mention of anything that may be construed as God as the stick-in-the-mud christian moralist who watches "G" rated cartoons over and over again, determined to find and weed out the merest ungodly thing... "a talking animal??? PAGANISM!!!!"
 
The euphoria on my Facebook feed is intensifying in response to the holidays. What really gets me is the sheer bitterness of it: it's like they hate religion so much, they can't stop thinking about it, and they resent it for occupying their thoughts.

If y'all are interested in a palate-cleanser, though, the latest National Geographic has an interesting article on the veneration of the Virgin Mary. Obviously it'll raise some eyebrows (visions and miracles, etc.) but I found it kind of inspiring. One of the things the author talks about is the various ways Mary is viewed in different countries--as the Lady of Guadalupe, the Black Madonna, etc--while being such a straightforward symbol of hope to each one. That's not a bad thing.

Happy holidays, Kiwis.

That's what I can't wrap my head around. Even if you're not a Christian or a Jew or even a secular celebrator of Christmas, this time of year is beloved for being a season of giving, togetherness with your loved ones, compassion, and warmth. Christmastime just puts tons of people in a great mood. Why would you want to spoil it? Why are you being so mean and grouchy about Christmas? Even though I'm Catholic and Christmas is supposed to be a Christian holiday, I really do love seeing how it's celebrated by the general public and how much people cherish it (I can do without all the rampant consumerism, though). I love all of the Christmas cliches, from Santa Claus and reindeer to Christmas trees and cookies. I just don't understand how people can't find something to enjoy, even if they don't want to celebrate a religious holiday (which I totally get, some people aren't comfortable with that stuff). I mean, you can still celebrate being with your loved ones, right?

Is this the article you read? This a little off topic, but hopefully it will inject some positivity into this thread, haha. Yes, Mary is universally beloved and admired by Catholics. We are told to emulate her because of her humbleness before God and her deeply loving and compassionate nature; she is believed to protect and intercede on behalf of sinners, as she understands and feels compassion towards them. She is especially venerated in places where she was said to appear; when she would appear before people, she would bring a message of peace, love, and hope. She's still venerated in places like Guadalupe, Fatima, and Lourdes as an enduring symbol of hope and love. I think it's all very beautiful.
 
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