Euphoric atheists

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Personally, I find the whole Lovecraftian idea more palatable than just about any other ethos.
For what it's worth, describing God as eldritchian may be not be inaccurate (and I mean that respectfully of course). The Bible mentions angels shielding their faces from the glory of God, for example, not to mention God must have existed for an infinite amount of time, which I'm not sure makes physical sense, and/or exist outside of time, which doesn't really seem to be within human comprehension. Does that make sense?
 
I would love to know why these special individuals haven’t questioned Islam’s take on abortion, where one must first get the father’s permission, and have it done within 40 days of conception, roughly five weeks. Well before many of the strictest states’ heartbeat laws. Some schools of thought will extend that to 120 days post conception, but this is discouraged, even still this is much earlier than most pro abortion camps rally for. Most Islamic states either outright ban abortion unless there’s medical risk to the mother, or heavily restrict it.

Funny how that never comes up.
 
I would love to know why these special individuals haven’t questioned Islam’s take on abortion, where one must first get the father’s permission, and have it done within 40 days of conception, roughly five weeks. Well before many of the strictest states’ heartbeat laws. Some schools of thought will extend that to 120 days post conception, but this is discouraged, even still this is much earlier than most pro abortion camps rally for. Most Islamic states either outright ban abortion unless there’s medical risk to the mother, or heavily restrict it.

Funny how that never comes up.
You and I both know why and frankly I'm sick of repetitive talking points like this. Atheists have no coherent worldview, we already know this.
 
What if say, a more progressive church mentions the recent SCOTUS decision? What then, do you still report them to the IRS? Also, I don't think this kid knows how the IRS reporting works when it comes to nonprofit organizations.
He's talking about the Johnson Amendment.

Which has never been enforced. And quite likely is unconstitutional. And will never actually BE enforced for reasons clear to people who leave their basements.
 
I would love to know why these special individuals haven’t questioned Islam’s take on abortion, where one must first get the father’s permission, and have it done within 40 days of conception, roughly five weeks. Well before many of the strictest states’ heartbeat laws. Some schools of thought will extend that to 120 days post conception, but this is discouraged, even still this is much earlier than most pro abortion camps rally for. Most Islamic states either outright ban abortion unless there’s medical risk to the mother, or heavily restrict it.

Funny how that never comes up.

Plenty of atheists are against Islam, it just isn't influencing policy decision in most western nations.

You and I both know why and frankly I'm sick of repetitive talking points like this. Atheists have no coherent worldview, we already know this.

This shit is basically euphoric in its own right. The only thing all atheists have in common is that they don't believe in gods. Similarly, the only thing all theists have in common is belief in at least one god. You wouldn't expect a Mormon and a Shintoist to have the same worldview, so why do the reverse?
 
He's talking about the Johnson Amendment.

Which has never been enforced. And quite likely is unconstitutional. And will never actually BE enforced for reasons clear to people who leave their basements.
You know, sometimes I think Redditors are just fat vampires who burn in the sun and seethe in rage when presented with a cross.
 
The only thing all atheists have in common is that they don't believe in gods.
Except that's not true at all, at least for the subjects of this thread. Western atheists from Christian countries come from the same cultural background, which includes a specific religious environment and a shared broad ideology. Progressivism is a religion in its own right. But we've heard this all before.
 
wut?

lmao, everyone here sucks. The people wrecking the bible sound soy but so does the street preacher and lol at him calling wrecking a bible a hate crime.
I don't get it either, I guess he just read The Birth of Tragedy and went "Yeah, this is it" without understanding what Nietzsche actually meant, just like most self-proclaimed "Nietzchians." He doesn't understand Hellenistic paganism or philosophy that well it seems, as demonstrated by his comment of "might makes right" when Greeks like Plato would shake their heads. I guess he's like most neo-pagans in that he's really an atheist but "worships" the gods of old because "Abrahamic God doesn't make sense" and other internet atheist argumentation.

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Also I agree, the street preacher should've fought back against the fatherless whores.
 
Except that's not true at all, at least for the subjects of this thread. Western atheists from Christian countries come from the same cultural background, which includes a specific religious environment and a shared broad ideology.

Yes, and there are still a multitude of ethos and beliefs in that shared environment, same with theists.

Progressivism is a religion in its own right. But we've heard this all before.

There are conservative atheists and progressivist Jews and Christians. This was the euphoric bullshit I was talking about.
 
This shit is basically euphoric in its own right. The only thing all atheists have in common is that they don't believe in gods. Similarly, the only thing all theists have in common is belief in at least one god. You wouldn't expect a Mormon and a Shintoist to have the same worldview, so why do the reverse?
You'd be shocked at how often atheists will ignore any other religion but Christianity when it comes to their antics online. It's not all of them, but it's happened enough times and by a large enough portion of them that it's kind of pathetic. Hell, the worst of the lot will even cuck to and support their religion due to a variety of reasons.

And I say this as an apatheist.
 
2) Christianity has always been middle tier in terms of equality. But nothing in the Bible advocates abusing women and most women are encouraged to take up roles supporting their husband's and family's well being.
Women have had a leading role in the Old Testament; Deborah was a judge (leader of the Hebrew tribe before they had kings). Women were also allowed to lead in the Early Christian Church, even Paul, who is often maligned for the supposedly misogynistic passage in 1 Corinthians, nevertheless thanked and recommended women to take up pastoral roles.

5) Many Christians were for better treatment for animals and early animal rights groups were founded by Christians. Wilberforce was one of them.
Old Testament laws are downright merciful for drafting animals. They are given a rest day each week. I'm always reminded of the passage "Do not muzzle an ox when it is treading on the grain" whenever I have to put on a mask

6) In my professional opinion as an educator, some kids need the belt...
Paul also admonished parents for provoking their children for the sake of it. You can't say it isn't a very enlightened stance in a paternalistic culture.
 
Women have had a leading role in the Old Testament; Deborah was a judge (leader of the Hebrew tribe before they had kings). Women were also allowed to lead in the Early Christian Church, even Paul, who is often maligned for the supposedly misogynistic passage in 1 Corinthians, nevertheless thanked and recommended women to take up pastoral roles.
Another thing is that Mary Magdalene was among the first to know that Jesus rose from the dead and went to tell the Apostles. Plus in the Catholic Church, Orthodox Church, and to an extent the Coptic Church all have reverence for the Virgin Mary.
 
At some point, people who do this are going to "fuck around and find out". They will pick the wrong street preacher or go after the wrong guy for some perceived slight, and that person will be packing.
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I suppose it could happen.
For what it's worth, describing God as eldritchian may be not be inaccurate (and I mean that respectfully of course).
That angel Ezekiel saw would turn your shit white.
 
I really want to know where the "Christofascism" term originated. It's like every fucking annoying person on Reddit just started using it all at the same time.

It's a spin on the term "Islamofascism" coined shortly after 9/11 to distinguish between normie Muslims and Islamic supremacist nutbags like the Taliban. Popped up in the early 2000s. The sentiment, if not the exact term, may have been floating around earlier -- there's the apocryphal quote attributed to Sinclair Lewis "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
 
For what it's worth, describing God as eldritchian may be not be inaccurate (and I mean that respectfully of course). The Bible mentions angels shielding their faces from the glory of God, for example, not to mention God must have existed for an infinite amount of time, which I'm not sure makes physical sense, and/or exist outside of time, which doesn't really seem to be within human comprehension. Does that make sense?

To be honest, it's still not accurate. Since we are talking about Christian/Abrahamic god, then the angels look like that because they are angels, but humans are specifically mentioned to be made "in the image of God". Even if we can say that God certainly doesn't look like human, but in physical form, he does appear as Jesus.
The angels shield their eyes from God because of his radiance, and it was said that no one can see God straight in the eyes and live, but God did allow Moses to see him in human form from the back.

But mentioning god being similar to eldritch is on par with atheist's blinding ego, implying that their human form is the pinnacle of beauty.
 
Another thing is that Mary Magdalene was among the first to know that Jesus rose from the dead and went to tell the Apostles. Plus in the Catholic Church, Orthodox Church, and to an extent the Coptic Church all have reverence for the Virgin Mary.
What do you mean "to an extent"? The only Christians who don't have reverence for the Mother of God are protestants and Nestorians

Women have had a leading role in the Old Testament; Deborah was a judge (leader of the Hebrew tribe before they had kings). Women were also allowed to lead in the Early Christian Church, even Paul, who is often maligned for the supposedly misogynistic passage in 1 Corinthians, nevertheless thanked and recommended women to take up pastoral roles.

Old Testament laws are downright merciful for drafting animals. They are given a rest day each week. I'm always reminded of the passage "Do not muzzle an ox when it is treading on the grain" whenever I have to put on a mask

Paul also admonished parents for provoking their children for the sake of it. You can't say it isn't a very enlightened stance in a paternalistic culture.

Pastoral roles generally refered to aiding with baptism of women, catechesis was done primarily by men. Women still have a role as godmothers and abbesses
 
To be honest, it's still not accurate. Since we are talking about Christian/Abrahamic god, then the angels look like that because they are angels, but humans are specifically mentioned to be made "in the image of God". Even if we can say that God certainly doesn't look like human, but in physical form, he does appear as Jesus.
The angels shield their eyes from God because of his radiance, and it was said that no one can see God straight in the eyes and live, but God did allow Moses to see him in human form from the back.

But mentioning god being similar to eldritch is on par with atheist's blinding ego, implying that their human form is the pinnacle of beauty.
That is something to wonder about. A lot of people tend to think being in his image means being capable of freedom of choice and self-ownership, since Angels were made to serve but Man wasn't.

Also the big difference between Lovecraft's elder races/gods/outsiders and God is that God is fundamentally much more understandable and personal. Lovecraft was all about concepts beyond imagining making you go insane, but an all-powerful Creator can (like you said) just be perceivable if he wanted to be. God isn't 100% mind-burning all the time, he turns into forms that are perceivable because he wants to have a personal relationship with humanity and he actively told people what to do to make themselves properly available to him. Which is an interesting contrast I think, and probably one of the key messages of some of those early passages.

The Levitical laws are like, "Yeah God has this incredible cosmic power that can literally destroy you but he really just wants to have dinner with his family in the Holy of Holies, so purify yourself the right way and sit by his footstool and eat with him." It's all about keeping the people spiritually pure so God can stick around and be with them, because he really wants that and it would be a huge shame to disappoint him.
 
What do you mean "to an extent"? The only Christians who don't have reverence for the Mother of God are protestants and Nestorians
I'm not well versed in Coptic Theology compared to other churches. Sorry about that.

That is something to wonder about. A lot of people tend to think being in his image means being capable of freedom of choice and self-ownership, since Angels were made to serve but Man wasn't.

Also the big difference between Lovecraft's elder races/gods/outsiders and God is that God is fundamentally much more understandable and personal. Lovecraft was all about concepts beyond imagining making you go insane, but an all-powerful Creator can (like you said) just be perceivable if he wanted to be. God isn't 100% mind-burning all the time, he turns into forms that are perceivable because he wants to have a personal relationship with humanity and he actively told people what to do to make themselves properly available to him. Which is an interesting contrast I think, and probably one of the key messages of some of those early passages.

The Levitical laws are like, "Yeah God has this incredible cosmic power that can literally destroy you but he really just wants to have dinner with his family in the Holy of Holies, so purify yourself the right way and sit by his footstool and eat with him." It's all about keeping the people spiritually pure so God can stick around and be with them, because he really wants that and it would be a huge shame to disappoint him.
Another difference is that the Lovecraftian gods are more malevolent whereas the God of Abraham is benevolent.
 
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