Explaining stuff to Chris...

[Marvin]

I think what the comic is trying to do is encourage critical thinking and the development of a theory of mind.

Really, even if it doesn't get Chris to think there was justification in what Mary Lee Walsh did, it'd still do Chris good if it could do this.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

Is it a symptom of Austism in where that the individual cannot identify with others being people?

It seems to me that Chris simply can't/won't admit that other people have goals/feelings not related to him. In the recent Facebook leak we can see him posting how his "friends" aren't trying hard enough to find him a sweet-heart while at the sometime berating them for being too busy with thier jobs to talk to him.

I had hoped (in a good way) that Bobs death might have given him an inkling of empathy for others. But all I see is him moaning about how much he misses not his Dad but what his Dad gave him. ie; a bit of security and order in his life.

 

[Totally Awesome]

I think it's really stupid that people get hurt over Chris' stupid sign. Chris is a dumbass, sure, but I don't think we should shut down other people's speech because others might get their paper thin feelings hurt. Besides, Chris is an angry, vengeful, and violent person that needs psychological help, and taking away his signs won't help that.

 

[rocket]

Is it a symptom of Austism in where that the individual cannot identify with others being people?

It seems to me that Chris simply can't/won't admit that other people have goals/feelings not related to him. In the recent Facebook leak we can see him posting how his "friends" aren't trying hard enough to find him a sweet-heart while at the sometime berating them for being too busy with thier jobs to talk to him.

I had hoped (in a good way) that Bobs death might have given him an inkling of empathy for others. But all I see is him moaning about how much he misses not his Dad but what his Dad gave him. ie; a bit of security and order in his life.

That's pretty much autism in a nutshell.

Where Bob is concerned, he loved and misses his dad and the FB leak revealed the negative impact it had on his life. But he's an autistic and a weirdo, and incapable of thinking or expressing himself in anything but concrete ideas, so all be can do to say "I miss my dad" is provide a list of ways it negatively impacted his life.

 

[teheviltwin]

Is it a symptom of Austism in where that the individual cannot identify with others being people?

To quote from Wikipedia (snrk):

Theory of mind (often abbreviated "ToM") is the ability to attribute mental states—beliefs, intents, desires, pretending, knowledge, etc.—to oneself and others and to understand that others have beliefs, desires, and intentions that are different from one's own. Deficits occur in people with autism spectrum disorders, schizophrenia, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, as well as neurotoxicity due to alcohol abuse.

Normally kids get taught ToM stuff when they are young in special school. Chris was main-streamed. No one ever explained it in a way he can comprehend. Now he's too old for the state to do it and his parents have made him scared of psychiatry.

I think it's really stupid that people get hurt over Chris' stupid sign. Chris is a dumbass, sure, but I don't think we should shut down other people's speech because others might get their paper thin feelings hurt. Besides, Chris is an angry, vengeful, and violent person that needs psychological help, and taking away his signs won't help that.

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech. It is explaining in very black and white terms what happened when MLW ripped up OPL's sign.

The reason most normal people wouldn't walk around with a sign like that is because they know it could potentially cause upset. And for a variety of other obvious reasons. But that's because we have critical thinking and we understand unwritten social rules. Chris doesn't. You have to take a teaching aid designed for a special needs child and adapt it to him in his adult situations.

I think what the comic is trying to do is encourage critical thinking and the development of a theory of mind.

Really, even if it doesn't get Chris to think there was justification in what Mary Lee Walsh did, it'd still do Chris good if it could do this.

I'm slightly tempted to do more of them. Like how MLW would feel with a flailing man-child screaming in her face.

 

[registereduser]

I think it's really stupid that people get hurt over Chris' stupid sign. Chris is a dumbass, sure, but I don't think we should shut down other people's speech because others might get their paper thin feelings hurt. Besides, Chris is an angry, vengeful, and violent person that needs psychological help, and taking away his signs won't help that.

But that's not the point of the comic. Of course no one is ~deeply offended~ by his lovequest sign, but there are certain things implied in the sign that probably go against the school's discrimination policies, etc., and the comic is using that as a way to explain to Chris in concrete terms why Mary Lee Walsh would have a problem with it and tell him to take it down. Plus, it's completely embarrassing and counter-productive for him, even if he himself doesn't realize it. This kind of stuff needs to be explained to Chris in very simple terms so that Chris can understand how he was being a dumbass with that sign, and how not to be a dumbass in the fututre. Letting him continue to be a dumbass in public without calling him out on it (like MLW did) is the exact opposite of helping him.

 

[CalmMyTits]

I think what the comic is trying to do is encourage critical thinking and the development of a theory of mind.

Really, even if it doesn't get Chris to think there was justification in what Mary Lee Walsh did, it'd still do Chris good if it could do this.

I'm slightly tempted to do more of them. Like how MLW would feel with a flailing man-child screaming in her face.

Please do. I thought that comic was incredible. In fact it'd be fun to see more comics around other aspects of his life, like his selfishness in his interaction with his sweethearts and his double standard (his new PS3 vs Jackie's chopsticks) or him throwing rocks at girls, or his incidents with the Jerkops.

 

[Anchuent Christory]

Thing is, Chris has shown that he's militantly opposed to having his faults pointed out to him. The very closest you'll get to him acknowledging them will be him saying that you've exceeded the hurtful truth level, and at that point he's allowed to disregard whatever you've said because you hurt his feelings.

Chris seems to believe that because he's autistic, doing these things is allowed and the rest of us should accept it, not that his autism causes him to behave in this way and that he should actively make the effort to improve. He's spent this entire time using his autism as a shield.

Not that I think there's anything wrong with the comic, in fact, I think it would be an excellent way to explain the situation to others with Chris' condition and help them understand. It's just that there are autistic people......and then there's Chris.

 

[CalmMyTits]

Thing is, Chris has shown that he's militantly opposed to having his faults pointed out to him. The very closest you'll get to him acknowledging them will be him saying that you've exceeded the hurtful truth level, and at that point he's allowed to disregard whatever you've said because you hurt his feelings.

Chris seems to believe that because he's autistic, doing these things is allowed and the rest of us should accept it, not that his autism causes him to behave in this way and that he should actively make the effort to improve. He's spent this entire time using his autism as a shield.

Not that I think there's anything wrong with the comic, in fact, I think it would be an excellent way to explain the situation to others with Chris' condition and help them understand. It's just that there are autistic people......and then there's Chris.

I agree (I stand by my statement about the shock collar) but we here in the forum enjoy the comic nonetheless and the efforts of its artist.

 

[Marvin]

Thing is, Chris has shown that he's militantly opposed to having his faults pointed out to him. The very closest you'll get to him acknowledging them will be him saying that you've exceeded the hurtful truth level, and at that point he's allowed to disregard whatever you've said because you hurt his feelings.

Not entirely. I think "exceeding the hurtful truth level" is a good way to describe the way anyone would think about the subject. Really, like any person, you could touch on a few of their faults in a nice way and they'll accept the criticism. But if you get really harsh or don't let up, then they'd think you're being a dick. This is how Chris thinks, except he's got a much lower threshold for what's too harsh. Asspats don't help this aspect of him. Also he probably has a few topics that are off limits for criticism.

Chris seems to believe that because he's autistic, doing these things is allowed and the rest of us should accept it, not that his autism causes him to behave in this way and that he should actively make the effort to improve. He's spent this entire time using his autism as a shield.

There's also a big self-hate aspect to Chris' position on autism. And this only got worse post-Bob. Autism is one of the things he's blaming his loneliness on. He's also talking about how he feels retarded and is noticing how other autistic people have the same dead fish stare that he does.

Depending on how you pull it off, and if you can phrase it in terms of getting girls, you could probably (nicely, or really kiss his ass while you do it) criticize parts of Chris without setting him off.

 

[Trombonista]

Didn't two Black girls approach Chris and his sign, only to be turned down for being Black? While I doubt they were seriously crushed, and I know Chris wasn't trying to be mean, that wasn't very nice. This comic could help explain that to Chris, or someone like Chris.

 

[homerbeoulve]

Didn't two Black girls approach Chris and his sign, only to be turned down for being Black? While I doubt they were seriously crushed, and I know Chris wasn't trying to be mean, that wasn't very nice. This comic could help explain that to Chris, or someone like Chris.

2 beautiful black supermodels walks into the bar and....

 

[NobleGreyHorse]

2 beautiful black supermodels walk into the bar and....

... Chris utterly fails to notice because he's got his iDea Book open in front of him and is playing with his electronic toys. (Oh dude, imagine rejecting someone as gorgeous as David Bowie's wife Iman out of sheer cluelessness.)

The objection about "free speech" doesn't apply to PVCC. It's a privately-owned institution, right? If it doesn't get its major funding from the Commonwealth of VA, as I understand it, it's not even vaguely obligated to designate a free-speech/protest zone like some other campuses might do (a state school, for example). Look at Bob Jones University, which for a long time banned interracial dating -- the First Amendment merely means the government is not going to arrest Chris for the content of his sign. That does nothing to stop PVCC making rules banning something he said on it. Hell, maybe all signs displayed on campus just have to have correct capitalization.

 

[JULAY]

Thing is, Chris has shown that he's militantly opposed to having his faults pointed out to him. The very closest you'll get to him acknowledging them will be him saying that you've exceeded the hurtful truth level, and at that point he's allowed to disregard whatever you've said because you hurt his feelings.

Not entirely. I think "exceeding the hurtful truth level" is a good way to describe the way anyone would think about the subject. Really, like any person, you could touch on a few of their faults in a nice way and they'll accept the criticism. But if you get really harsh or don't let up, then they'd think you're being a dick. This is how Chris thinks, except he's got a much lower threshold for what's too harsh. Asspats don't help this aspect of him. Also he probably has a few topics that are off limits for criticism.

He does not feel good aboout comments in relation to his gut.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

He does not feel good aboout comments in relation to his gut.

Chris doesn't like any criticism but in the past he has admitted to having a 'Buddha Belly'. I just think he genuinely doesn't think he's as fat as he is.

Suggesting he has Aspergers on the other hand has never even been considered by Chris and he's willing to ignore medical authorities on the matter.

 

[teheviltwin]

I just think he genuinely doesn't think he's as fat as he is.

^ This. Chris had to spend a very long time staring at mirrors to recognise his own face. It is unlikely that he has done anything like that in more recent years so the image he has of himself is still the same as it was.

Suggesting he has Aspergers on the other hand has never even been considered by Chris and he's willing to ignore medical authorities on the matter.

His parents taught him that psychology and psychiatry were terrifying. They moved house so he didn't have to go to a special school, lied to psychiatrists about the extent of his 'tard rages and told him he'd be taken away forever.

Chris's only real issue with aspergers is that it sounds like assburgers.

Please do. I thought that comic was incredible. In fact it'd be fun to see more comics around other aspects of his life, like his selfishness in his interaction with his sweethearts and his double standard (his new PS3 vs Jackie's chopsticks) or him throwing rocks at girls, or his incidents with the Jerkops.

Ah'm workin' on it.

I did try making one to explain why Chris is single at first but that's going to be a looooooooooooooooooooong one.

I shall have a go at a couple more.

 

[Very Honest Content]

Really, it's a comic about the defining moment IMO in OPL's life starring the greatest relic of them all. How could I not love every panel?
Curse-ye-hame-ha in the office of MLW done similarly would make me collapse a lung in I bet.
I just realized halfway through reading this that every 'sub-episode' drawn from the CWC adult adventures is perfect fodder for a re-presentation in similar manner.
Bitch Anna should send these to him on facebook if she wants to be a good friend instead of the original troll to Chris.

 

[Bgheff]

Didn't two Black girls approach Chris and his sign, only to be turned down for being Black? While I doubt they were seriously crushed, and I know Chris wasn't trying to be mean, that wasn't very nice. This comic could help explain that to Chris, or someone like Chris.

As I recall, he claims a black girl slapped his ass in high school, and his attraction sign since then has exclude them.

 

[Anchuent Christory]

but we here in the forum enjoy the comic nonetheless and the efforts of its artist.

Oh, absolutely! The comic was excellent and I'd love to see more Moments in christory turned into learning aids.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

He does not feel good aboout comments in relation to his gut.

Chris doesn't like any criticism but in the past he has admitted to having a 'Buddha Belly'. I just think he genuinely doesn't think he's as fat as he is.

I think it's more that he's willing to admit to imperfection, but only if it can be placed in the context of "but I overcame my previous flaw and now I AM perfect."