Facebook post, 27 September: Megan.

[BigAltheGreat921]

Pickle Monsta, you win 100 internets for your analysis of Chris' post.

 

[Bragorboats]

About 8 years ago, when I started University, I met a guy in Fresher's week from across the hall. We shared a love of soccer and drinking. But the one thing that tickled me about him in the early days was that he refused to get an eBay account and always used mine. Part of that reason now that I think about it was that he didn't bring a laptop to uni, so he'd come round mine and use my eBay account, whilst we drank or donged around on Goldeneye. He always paid me back, and I guess it was one of many things that made us friends. Now, 8 years later, we're still best friends.

The point is it maybe wasn't that strange for Megan to 'use' Chris like this, they helped each other and shared a little social interaction. A strange one maybe, but not unique.

 

[Anchuent Christory]

There was a time when my Brother, Mother, and Cousin all asked me to get them stuff on Ebay occasionally, and it didn't bother me in the slightest. Every transaction added to my good reputation on the site, and that helps when selling things. It didn't inconvenience me in the slightest and none of them saw any point in setting up an account for the occasional purchase when I already had one.

Some arrangements between friends and family may seem unusual or one-sided when looked at from the outside, but as long as it's perfectly acceptable to people involved then there's really no problem.

 

[Some JERK]

For all we know Megan just didn't have a bank account or credit card at the time, and therefore couldn't buy stuff from ebay herself even if she wanted to.

 

[Fandase]

With all due respect, nothing you raised there makes me reevaluate my opinion about the whole ordeal and it appears we are going to end up agreeing to disagree when this is all said and done, which I'm fine with as an outcome. If you don't have an ebay account because of whatever reason, either don't use the site or run the risk of whatever proxy bidder you associate with turning out to be a proto-tomgirl, that's still all on you regardless of what you choose. It's speculated the lack of a credit card was the reason for her turning to to use as a proxy bidder, so if that is true, it's a pretty weak reason to continue to associate with someone who isn't enough of a friend to you that they repeatedly disregard your requests not to be so touchy. You've got a set of what, six, seven, emails over more than a year asking him repeatedly to be more MANOS off so who knows how many more in person requests are lost to the vagaries of CWC's spotty recollection? You can interpret my comment as blaming her for CWC's actions if you like, but read it again and there's no such assertion on my part there, I said I hope she learned to put her foot down a lot sooner over things like this so it didn't end up crossing yet another creepy line due to her continued association with guys who don't respect what she says to them on fronts such as that. Sure he was never taught boundaries, but if she wanted to be friends with him and keep them in place, she was eventually going to have to be wiling to be an object lesson to him over them by disassociating from him, which she wasn't doing because . . . she liked the Vega collectables more than making him respect her wishes I guess?

Yes we will have to agree to disagree, you said you had little sympathy that does indicate that you feel she was the one mostly at fault for what happened to her. I am not saying that she is completely blameless, but to say you have no sympathy for a young girl obviously out of her depth on how to handle a person clearly infatuated with her and not listening to the boundaries she is setting, sorry but most young girls don't know how to handle guys like this and sometimes it takes age and distance to deal with people like Chris. I can look at this from the distance of a 45 year old woman and say yes she should not have done this or this, but I can still sympathize with the situation she was in 7 years ago.
It is obvious that she could put her foot down when he bought her a DS she didn't ask for, and she turned it down and gave it back to him. if she was a gold digger she could have taken Chris for a whole lot more. I think near the end, she clued in that he was only doing all the nice things for her so she would have sex with him. It wasn't because he saw her as friend but as a possible sex partner. He doesn't care about anyone but himself.

Besides like I said we don't know why she decided to use Chris' eBay account. All she may have said was
Megan: Man, I saw the coolest Sailor Moon's card on eBay
Chris: You should get them, you love Sailor moon.
Megan: Can't I don't have an eBay account/ credit card
Chris: I do it on my account and you can pay me back/buy me a manga/Yu-gi-oh card pack
All the while he is thinking, she is going to love me for this and I will get china

There is no excuse for the way he acted then and none for the way he is acting now. His parents are the ones to blame for all of this. They never taught him that you don't touch girls the way he does, I personally would have kicked him in the balls if he keep touching on me (sorry guys I know you don't like hearing about that). His parents should have sat him down as he grew older and explain certain things to him, but they didn't and he gets all him sexual information from tv shows or the internet with no idea that each woman is different, of course. Like I have said before they raised a brat and don't what to do with him at this point. I still think one of these days he is going to end up in Jail on serious assault charge. He creeps me out.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

Weee! I come from my camping trip to find Chris writing a creepy diatribe about a girl he clearly still loves but considers her a "Queen Bee Troll" or something autistic.

That's not as malicious as "Megantron Jerk" though.

Now I have a whole thread of responses to read!

 

[A-№1]

Eh, it might take awhile for someone to realize a friendship isn't worth it. She wasn't just being friendly to Chris to get him to buy her things, they were friends for awhile.

This.

Unless I'm mistaken, Megan was a friends to Chris for several years before the internets learned about him. We only got in at the tail end of that relationship when Chris had switched over from autistic shyness with Megan to autistic obsessive possessive creeper, and the shit was already hitting the fan. So the internet really gives a time compressed, after-the-fact impression of their relationship that isn't as true to life as it should be.

And it's not like we will ever get an accurate account of it from Chris, so it's probably best to give Megan the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Some JERK]

Eh, it might take awhile for someone to realize a friendship isn't worth it. She wasn't just being friendly to Chris to get him to buy her things, they were friends for awhile.

This.

Unless I'm mistaken, Megan was a friends to Chris for several years before the internets learned about him. We only got in at the tail end of that relationship when Chris had switched over from autistic shyness with Megan to autistic obsessive possessive creeper, and the shit was already hitting the fan. So the internet really gives a time compressed, after-the-fact impression of their relationship that isn't as true to life as it should be.

And it's not like we will ever get an accurate account of it from Chris, so it's probably best to give Megan the benefit of the doubt.

According to some accounts Megan is (or was) really socially awkward. Every single picture i've ever seen of her (with the exception of the one with her and her brother) absolutely screams "painfully shy". I think that when she struck up a friendship w Chris, she found A.) someone with whom she could discuss things that she was into, which she really didn't get a lot of chances to do since according to Mimms "No joke, Megan is into some odd stuff." and B.) a person who she wasn't attracted to or threatened by at all (at the time, of course) and therefore she didn't feel so self conscious or neurotic around him, since really, who gives a fuck if the goofy manbaby who wears the plastic medallion and sesame street clothes thinks you're cool or lame?

Of course, Chris showed her the error of that thinking, and probably drove her deeper into her shell for a long time. My point there is though that yeah, i really do believe they were TRUE and HONEST friends at one point, or at least Megan was, and Chris was just saying and doing whatever he needed to say and do to keep her talking to him, and he just got weirder and weirder about it since just being friends was never his goal.

 

[Very Honest Content]

Yes we will have to agree to disagree, you said you had little sympathy that does indicate that you feel she was the one mostly at fault for what happened to her. I am not saying that she is completely blameless, but to say you have no sympathy for a young girl

The quote is, 'it's kind of hard to have too much sympathy,' which implies I have sympathy, but not an excessive amount, but hey, straw man away by all means and please continue not to carefully reread the post you're taking issue with.

obviously out of her depth on how to handle a person clearly infatuated with her and not listening to the boundaries she is setting, sorry but most young girls don't know how to handle guys like this and sometimes it takes age and distance to deal with people like Chris. I can look at this from the distance of a 40 year old woman and say yes she should not have done this or this, but I can still sympathize with the situation she was in 7 years ago.
It is obvious that she could put her foot down when he bought her a DS she didn't ask for, and she turned it down and gave it back to him. if she was a gold digger she could have taken Chris for a whole lot more. I think near the end, she clued in that he was only doing all the nice things for her so she would have sex with him. It wasn't because he saw her as friend but as a possible sex partner. He doesn't care about anyone but himself.

That was my point, she let her desire to cash in for ebay prizes compromise her feeling that this weirdo wasn't respecting her boundaries. Thus I hope she's learned not to compromise herself in this manner. Not taking CWC for all she could is something commendable but she won't find that from the person who should be commending her for it unfortunately. Personally, it makes no difference to me whether she's an ethical person or not because we'll most likely never interact.

Besides like I said we don't know why she decided to use Chris' eBay account. All she may have said was
Megan: Man, I saw the coolest Sailor Moon's card on eBay
Chris: YOu should get them, you love Sailor moon.
Megan: Can't I don't have an eBay account/ credit card
Chris: I do it on my account and you can pay me back/buy me a manga/Yu-gi-oh card pack
All the while he is thinking, she is going to love me for this and I will get china

This is certainly in the realm of possibility. We don't know how that started and really there's only two parties that do know and one is unreliable as a narrator and one doesn't want to talk about it in order to move on with their life so who really knows who said and did what at the time? Without a TRUE and HONEST account of the facts, I can only go on the assumptions the evidence after the fact leads me to find most likely.

There is no excuse for the way he acted then and none for the way he is acting now. His parents are the ones to blame for all of this. They never taught him that you don't touch girls the way he does, I personally would have kicked him in the balls if he keep touching on me (sorry guys I know you don't like hearing about that). His parents should have sat him down as he grew older and explain certain things to him, but they didn't and he gets all him sexual information from tv shows or the internet with no idea that each woman is different, of course. Like I have said before they raised a brat and don't what to do with him at this point. I still think one of these days he is going to end up in Jail on serious assault charge. He creeps me out.

I agree with everything you said here which is why I proceeded my original comment in this thread with 'same old shit from ' and didn't take issue with the preceding 20 pages of piling on him over how so very out of line he was. The best thing CWC could have had done to him was to receive a swift kick in the nuts by Megan when he crossed her 'no' line in the sand the third time. He would have and his comic would have been better off for it and she wouldn't have to IGNORE ALL GOOGLE RESULTS. Plus, the assault on Snyder in October two years ago was the day he ended up in jail on a serious assault charge, so check off that already.

 

[Null]

Can we not do this?

 

[MetroidJunkie]

That was my point, she let her desire to cash in for ebay prizes compromise her feeling that this weirdo wasn't respecting her boundaries. Thus I hope she's learned not to compromise herself in this manner. Not taking CWC for all she could is something commendable but she won't find that from the person who should be commending her for it unfortunately. Personally, it makes no difference to me whether she's an ethical person or not because we'll most likely never interact.

While you may have a point that maybe she shouldn't have stuck around as long as she did, I don't think it was all just because she needed someone's credit card to serve as an eBay proxy. It's possible that she simply had a very forgiving personality and looked the other way, or perhaps she didn't have many friends. Either way, I think we can agree that she definitely doesn't deserve the crap that Chris is slinging at her.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Megan didn't even have a boyfriend, as far as we know. It was never mentioned in the Lucas and Mimms Q&A. She did, however, sit on the lap of her gay friend. Even if she did have a BF, she doesn't seen to be the type to be smoochin' in a card shop in front of little kids and their parents.

Chris would call it "making out" if he saw her give a guy so much as an innocent peck on the cheek.

 

[TastyWoodenBadge]

Chris is a horrible Adult Autistic Child, a horrible friend, and a horrible human being.

Fixed.

Also got to say you're avatar is perfect for any of Chris' FB rants

 

[Pikonic]

Megan didn't even have a boyfriend, as far as we know. It was never mentioned in the Lucas and Mimms Q&A. She did, however, sit on the lap of her gay friend. Even if she did have a BF, she doesn't seen to be the type to be smoochin' in a card shop in front of little kids and their parents.

Chris would call it "making out" if he saw her give a guy so much as an innocent peck on the cheek.

Or if she owed him money and said "Can I make out a check?"
Chris has a funny way of over exaggerating
*cough Nathaniel Greene Elementary cough*

 

[MetroidJunkie]

He selectively exaggerates when it makes him look sympathetic and good and tries to downplay it when it makes him look bad. Notice how he's trying to downplay the harassment and the drawn porn like it's no big deal.

 

[pickleniggo]

Can we talk about how Chris claims Megan kissed his hand? I want to know the circumstances around this one.

 

[Null]

Can we talk about how Chris claims Megan kissed his hand? I want to know the circumstances around this one.

He probably begged her for a kiss.

 

[homerbeoulve]

Can we talk about how Chris claims Megan kissed his hand? I want to know the circumstances around this one.

Searched on the CWCki on Megan's article. None have been found. Chris is lying again, Lies, lies, and more lies.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

He selectively exaggerates when it makes him look sympathetic and good and tries to downplay it when it makes him look bad. Notice how he's trying to downplay the harassment and the drawn porn like it's no big deal.

The ever-present proof that Chris knows full well the difference between right and wrong, and that he can't claim ignorance.

 

[MysticMisty]

He selectively exaggerates when it makes him look sympathetic and good and tries to downplay it when it makes him look bad. Notice how he's trying to downplay the harassment and the drawn porn like it's no big deal.

The ever-present proof that Chris knows full well the difference between right and wrong, and that he can't claim ignorance.

According to him, it's not harassment because he didn't touch boobs or china. Thus she's a lying and unappreciative bitch.