EU Facebook Says it Will Stop Operating in Europe If Regulators Don’t Back Down

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Facebook Says it Will Stop Operating in Europe If Regulators Don’t Back Down


European regulators are cracking down on Facebook's ability to transfer data across the Atlantic. Now the tech giant is threatening to pull its services from more than 400 million European users.
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by David Gilbert
21 September 2020, 1:42pm

Soumyabrata Roy/NurPhoto via AP
CORK, Ireland — Facebook has threatened to pack up its toys and go home if European regulators don’t back down and let the social network get its own way.
In a court filing in Dublin, Facebook said that a decision by Ireland’s Data Protection Commission (DPC) would force the company to pull up stakes and leave the 410 million people who use Facebook and photo-sharing service Instagram in the lurch.
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If the decision is upheld, “it is not clear to [Facebook] how, in those circumstances, it could continue to provide the Facebook and Instagram services in the EU,” Yvonne Cunnane, who is Facebook Ireland’s head of data protection and associate general counsel, wrote in a sworn affidavit.
The decision Facebook’s referring to is a preliminary order handed down last month to stop the transfer of data about European customers to servers in the U.S., over concerns about U.S. government surveillance of the data.
Facebook hit back by filing a lawsuit challenging the Irish DPC’s ban, and in a sworn affidavit filed this week, the company leveled some very serious accusations about the Irish data-protection commissioner, including a lack of fairness and apparent bias in singling out Facebook.
Cunnane points out that Facebook was given only three weeks to respond to the decision, a period that is “manifestly inadequate,” adding that Facebook wasn’t contacted about the inquiry prior to judgment being handed down.
She also raises concerns about the decision being made “solely” by Helen Dixon, Ireland’s data protection commissioner.
“The fact one person is responsible for the entire process is relevant to [Facebook’s] concerns, in respect of the inadequacy of the investigative process engaged in and independence of the ultimate decision-making process,” Cunnane wrote.
Cunnane also complains that Facebook is being singled out, noting no other big tech company using similar methods to transfer data to the U.S. from the EU is under the same scrutiny.
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“This gives rise to an apprehension that [Facebook] is not being treated equally,” Cullinane wrote. “If [Facebook] alone is being investigated and subject to a suspension of data transfers to the U.S., this would be liable to create a serious distortion of competition.”
The Irish DPC declined to comment to VICE News. Facebook denies that it is trying to force the regulator to change its decision with a threat with withdraw its services.
“Facebook is not threatening to withdraw from Europe,” a Facebook spokesperson said, adding that the court filing simply lays out how “Facebook, and many other businesses, organisations and services, rely on data transfers between the EU and the US in order to operate their services.”
A judge last week allowed Facebook’s challenge to go ahead and put a stay on the DPC’s ban on data transfers — though the DPC can challenge that decision.
Besides threatening to close down Facebook and Instagram completely, Cunnane also points out that Facebook is an important tool for the freedom of expression of its 410 million EU users — it also reportedly generated €208 billion in sales for companies who use the platforms.
What she failed to mention, though, is that the service has also been weaponized to sow disinformation and conspiracy theories, as well as being used to influence the results of votes across the region, including the U.K.’s decision to leave the EU.
Facebook’s entire business model relies on being able to easily and quickly transfer data across the globe so that it can better target users with ads. By disrupting that flow of data, the EU is threatening Facebook’s revenue potential, and as this lawsuit shows, that is something the company takes very seriously indeed.
But Facebook’s ultimatum is little more than an empty threat, according to privacy experts.
“The idea that Facebook would withdraw from the European market is absurd brinksmanship that I don’t think anyone truly believes,” Michael Veale, a technology policy researcher at University College London, told VICE News.
Cover: In this illustration photo, the logo of Facebook is displayed on a smartphone in Tehatta, Nadia, West Bengal; India on June 4, 2020. (Photo Illustrattion by Soumyabrata Roy/NurPhoto via AP)
 
Reading between the lines, Ireland was finally forced by mainland EU to enforce GDPR (Europe's new data protection law) as they had been slow rolling it, but Facebook is now putting the screws into Ireland outright demanding they stop enforcing it now or they will pull out; This is disastrous for Ireland because their entire modern economy is built around being a tax haven for American companies, many big tech, so Faceberg leaving would be a big deal. For the last two years Facebook would basically bribe their chief enforcement official to not fine them much if it all if they did anything violating GDPR, but again eventually the big countries such as France and Germany took note of this.

tl;dr: Gayops between Facebook and the EU finally blew up.
 
Reading between the lines, Ireland was finally forced by mainland EU to enforce GDPR (Europe's new data protection law) as they had been slow rolling it, but Facebook is now putting the screws into Ireland outright demanding they stop enforcing it now or they will pull out; This is disastrous for Ireland because their entire modern economy is built around being a tax haven for American companies, many big tech, so Faceberg leaving would be a big deal. For the last two years Facebook would basically bribe their chief enforcement official to not fine them much if it all if they did anything violating GDPR, but again eventually the big countries such as France and Germany took note of this.

tl;dr: Gayops between Facebook and the EU finally blew up.
Ireland could just leave the EU if it would so disastrous to their economy. God forbid a country retains its sovereignity over its own laws. Hoh wait, everyone told the UK to go fuck themselves for even thinking about it and pulled all the shits to stops them.

EU was supposed to help the countries facilitate trade between themselves and increase europe bargaining power on the world stage. Now its just a gavel to push authoritarian laws and force countries into cuckdom.
 
Ireland could just leave the EU if it would so disastrous to their economy. God forbid a country retains its sovereignity over its own laws. Hoh wait, everyone told the UK to go fuck themselves for even thinking about it and pulled all the shits to stops them.
They really can't though, mostly because of your second point; The EU is currently backing them in any disputes with the UK, if they were to just leave the EU currently they would have to rely on the US if they want to avoid falling back into the UK's sphere of unifluence after they already recently started to burn bridges with them. Problem is, the US is way too politically unstable right now to help them.

So their only option is to cling onto the EU and hope this somehows remains status quo and their economy doesn't get owned.
 
They won't for one reason. They do that and no other country has any reason to play nice or ball with facebook. If they're willing to turn on a country that has done them any kindness, what reason would facebook have to obey the laws of any other country? At that point, any country they go to will put the screws on them and they lose out regardless... oh and all the sweet dough they could've raked in from ireland on top of that.

This is just zuck trying to puff his chest and look tough but looks more fake than an inflated baloon.
 
They really can't though, mostly because of your second point; The EU is currently backing them in any disputes with the UK, if they were to just leave the EU currently they would have to rely on the US if they want to avoid falling back into the UK's sphere of unifluence after they already recently started to burn bridges with them. Problem is, the US is way too politically unstable right now to help them.

So their only option is to cling onto the EU and hope this somehows remains status quo and their economy doesn't get owned.
>Gets le epic freedom
>Proceeds to squander it
>Because you were basically another county in the UK during the wars for independence
>It would have been like Essex seceding from the Union
>Irish minority in America that everyone hated and that's about it for diplomatic clout
>Hmm

It's almost like, not just England, but EVERY nation of the Isles is better off as one rather than some fractured mess. I really don't know, I'm not a hyper-genius like every Irishman that has let the homeland collapse to this and more horrifying levels, but at least the UK participates in harvesting everyone's info and isn't a cumdump for every corporation that needs to bust their nuts. It just seems like a lesson we all should have learned around the time the Romans were able to invade a place they had viewed as the underworld just because all the Celts there were pissy about tribal honour.
 
Ireland could just leave the EU if it would so disastrous to their economy. God forbid a country retains its sovereignity over its own laws. Hoh wait, everyone told the UK to go fuck themselves for even thinking about it and pulled all the shits to stops them.

Seems to me you're basically screwed on that score once you adopt the Euro. The only reason the UK walking was feasible is because they kept their own currency, and look at how brutally difficult it is even for them. Maybe I'm overstating the difficulties involved, dunno, but if there's any serious movements to leave the EU in a Euro using country I've not heard of it. Italy makes a lot of noise, but that's all it seems to be.
 
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because you just KNOW that once zuckerberg is gone the EU faggots will immediately try and replace the void he left with some substitute that is more or less directly controlled and censored by the brussels bureaucrats themselves, which really isn't any better than being controlled and censored by american corporate jews
Yes it is.
 
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Sounds like there could be an opportunity here for a European FB competitor. Even though my field is digital marketing, I do think maybe it would be better if internet advertising wasn't so heavily dominated and monopolized by Google, FB, and Twitter.
 
Does the EU even have servers that Facebook could use for these purposes? The US has something like 90% of those. Also how exactly are they supposed to completely seperate the data from EU and the US? The only way I can think of is to have a completely seperate website for the EU, in 3 weeks as well. That being said, it would be nice if facebook would be down forever by tomorrow.
 
Multinational government Vs tech mega corporation man it's tough to pick a side. I wonder how long it will be before advert for any politicians opposing these rules become plastered all over Facebook since these tech magacorps companies are in the propaganda business these days.
 
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