EU Facebook Says it Will Stop Operating in Europe If Regulators Don’t Back Down

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Facebook Says it Will Stop Operating in Europe If Regulators Don’t Back Down


European regulators are cracking down on Facebook's ability to transfer data across the Atlantic. Now the tech giant is threatening to pull its services from more than 400 million European users.
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by David Gilbert
21 September 2020, 1:42pm

Soumyabrata Roy/NurPhoto via AP
CORK, Ireland — Facebook has threatened to pack up its toys and go home if European regulators don’t back down and let the social network get its own way.
In a court filing in Dublin, Facebook said that a decision by Ireland’s Data Protection Commission (DPC) would force the company to pull up stakes and leave the 410 million people who use Facebook and photo-sharing service Instagram in the lurch.
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If the decision is upheld, “it is not clear to [Facebook] how, in those circumstances, it could continue to provide the Facebook and Instagram services in the EU,” Yvonne Cunnane, who is Facebook Ireland’s head of data protection and associate general counsel, wrote in a sworn affidavit.
The decision Facebook’s referring to is a preliminary order handed down last month to stop the transfer of data about European customers to servers in the U.S., over concerns about U.S. government surveillance of the data.
Facebook hit back by filing a lawsuit challenging the Irish DPC’s ban, and in a sworn affidavit filed this week, the company leveled some very serious accusations about the Irish data-protection commissioner, including a lack of fairness and apparent bias in singling out Facebook.
Cunnane points out that Facebook was given only three weeks to respond to the decision, a period that is “manifestly inadequate,” adding that Facebook wasn’t contacted about the inquiry prior to judgment being handed down.
She also raises concerns about the decision being made “solely” by Helen Dixon, Ireland’s data protection commissioner.
“The fact one person is responsible for the entire process is relevant to [Facebook’s] concerns, in respect of the inadequacy of the investigative process engaged in and independence of the ultimate decision-making process,” Cunnane wrote.
Cunnane also complains that Facebook is being singled out, noting no other big tech company using similar methods to transfer data to the U.S. from the EU is under the same scrutiny.
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“This gives rise to an apprehension that [Facebook] is not being treated equally,” Cullinane wrote. “If [Facebook] alone is being investigated and subject to a suspension of data transfers to the U.S., this would be liable to create a serious distortion of competition.”
The Irish DPC declined to comment to VICE News. Facebook denies that it is trying to force the regulator to change its decision with a threat with withdraw its services.
“Facebook is not threatening to withdraw from Europe,” a Facebook spokesperson said, adding that the court filing simply lays out how “Facebook, and many other businesses, organisations and services, rely on data transfers between the EU and the US in order to operate their services.”
A judge last week allowed Facebook’s challenge to go ahead and put a stay on the DPC’s ban on data transfers — though the DPC can challenge that decision.
Besides threatening to close down Facebook and Instagram completely, Cunnane also points out that Facebook is an important tool for the freedom of expression of its 410 million EU users — it also reportedly generated €208 billion in sales for companies who use the platforms.
What she failed to mention, though, is that the service has also been weaponized to sow disinformation and conspiracy theories, as well as being used to influence the results of votes across the region, including the U.K.’s decision to leave the EU.
Facebook’s entire business model relies on being able to easily and quickly transfer data across the globe so that it can better target users with ads. By disrupting that flow of data, the EU is threatening Facebook’s revenue potential, and as this lawsuit shows, that is something the company takes very seriously indeed.
But Facebook’s ultimatum is little more than an empty threat, according to privacy experts.
“The idea that Facebook would withdraw from the European market is absurd brinksmanship that I don’t think anyone truly believes,” Michael Veale, a technology policy researcher at University College London, told VICE News.
Cover: In this illustration photo, the logo of Facebook is displayed on a smartphone in Tehatta, Nadia, West Bengal; India on June 4, 2020. (Photo Illustrattion by Soumyabrata Roy/NurPhoto via AP)
 
Does the EU even have servers that Facebook could use for these purposes? The US has something like 90% of those. Also how exactly are they supposed to completely seperate the data from EU and the US? The only way I can think of is to have a completely seperate website for the EU, in 3 weeks as well. That being said, it would be nice if facebook would be down forever by tomorrow.
It should be noted that those servers in the EU wouldnt be covered by section 230
 
If Facebook is banned does it mean mySpace or SchülerVZ (german) is gonna rise?
 
They won't for one reason. They do that and no other country has any reason to play nice or ball with facebook. If they're willing to turn on a country that has done them any kindness, what reason would facebook have to obey the laws of any other country? At that point, any country they go to will put the screws on them and they lose out regardless... oh and all the sweet dough they could've raked in from ireland on top of that.

This is just zuck trying to puff his chest and look tough but looks more fake than an inflated baloon.
Reading between the lines, Ireland was finally forced by mainland EU to enforce GDPR (Europe's new data protection law) as they had been slow rolling it, but Facebook is now putting the screws into Ireland outright demanding they stop enforcing it now or they will pull out; This is disastrous for Ireland because their entire modern economy is built around being a tax haven for American companies, many big tech, so Faceberg leaving would be a big deal. For the last two years Facebook would basically bribe their chief enforcement official to not fine them much if it all if they did anything violating GDPR, but again eventually the big countries such as France and Germany took note of this.

tl;dr: Gayops between Facebook and the EU finally blew up.
Something that I would have expected even Vice to mention is how this issue of Irish regulation applies to Europe in general.

Here's the thing about the GDPR:
  • It was based off existing privacy laws that individual European nations, generally in the German sphere of influence, had passed
  • Those national laws were regarded by anyone who isn't a disgusting corporate shill as generally sound, but they had limited effect and arguably created an uncertain regulatory environment
  • On the other hand, they were enforced on occasion
  • One country that literally never enforced its privacy laws was Ireland, the hovel in which many corrupt multinationals nominally headquarter themselves
  • In the course of GDPR negotiations, a 'interesting' addition was made, which is called the 'one-stop shop' principle. Essentially, this means that if you are Microsoft Corp and you say that your HQ is in Ireland to minimize your taxes, the Irish Data Protection Commission will be responsible for enforcing all GDPR violations against you, wherever in Europe they occur. As most multinationals base in Ireland anyway to minimize taxes, this creates an even greater conflict of interest, where the Irish government has acted to make the DPC even more toothless than they previously were
  • As a result of the 'one-stop shop', EU nations where privacy was previously nominally protected by law are no longer. Lawyers in a number of EU nations have had to sue the Irish DPC to try to get them to actually enforce GDPR
  • Courts outside Ireland (in France, for example) have independently enforced the GDPR in a way that is at odds with the 'one-stop shop', but so far that has been very limited and the fines pretty limited
Basically: Ireland is a failed state under full corporatist control, and they really really don't want to enforce the GDPR in any substantive way. If they do anything to Facebook it will be a fine for about the amount of change that Zuckerberg can find under his couch.

But, if, in theory, the GDPR was enforced in Ireland, the only place where it really matters for EU purposes, it would definitely impact on Facebook's business model. Pity that won't happen.
 
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