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Luna said:
Uzumaki said:
The Brotherhood of Steel are unambiguous good guy shining knights?
Yeah, but they're actually considered to be a splinter faction of the Brotherhood, while the Outcasts are actually the regular Brotherhood. They also aren't on friendly terms with ghouls, so I mean they aren't entirely without problems. From what I understand though Fallout 3 was kind of rushed through production because they were told they had to do something with the license, which is also why they chose to isolate it from the location that the rest of the series used.

Okay, so they failed at every aspect of the lore because "reasons". They took an iconic faction, distilled it to the most stereotypical cliched portrayal you could possibly make, and then said "oh it's cool though because they're a splinter group". It's still not connected in any meaningful way to the other Fallout games. I can't eat excuses.

It's like I'm going to make an X-Men game, and I've decided that the Brotherhood are going to be just mindless megalomaniacs who want to DESTROY THE WORLD HAHAHAHA because they're supervillains. I don't care how rushed it is, or that "oh no it's a splinter group", that's shitty writing by people with clearly no understanding of the setting. You can make up your own stupid destroy-the-world team, don't say they're the Brotherhood, and especially don't tell me that because they call their destroy-the-world faction the Brotherhood that they're respecting the X-Men lore.

Fallout 3 took a big dump on the Fallout series, then sort of tried to wave the stink away with their hand.
 
Uzumaki said:
Luna said:
Uzumaki said:
The Brotherhood of Steel are unambiguous good guy shining knights?
Yeah, but they're actually considered to be a splinter faction of the Brotherhood, while the Outcasts are actually the regular Brotherhood. They also aren't on friendly terms with ghouls, so I mean they aren't entirely without problems. From what I understand though Fallout 3 was kind of rushed through production because they were told they had to do something with the license, which is also why they chose to isolate it from the location that the rest of the series used.

Okay, so they failed at every aspect of the lore because "reasons". They took an iconic faction, distilled it to the most stereotypical cliched portrayal you could possibly make, and then said "oh it's cool though because they're a splinter group". It's still not connected in any meaningful way to the other Fallout games. I can't eat excuses.

It's like I'm going to make an X-Men game, and I've decided that the Brotherhood are going to be just mindless megalomaniacs who want to DESTROY THE WORLD HAHAHAHA because they're supervillains. I don't care how rushed it is, or that "oh no it's a splinter group", that's shitty writing by people with clearly no understanding of the setting. You can make up your own stupid destroy-the-world team, don't say they're the Brotherhood, and especially don't tell me that because they call their destroy-the-world faction the Brotherhood that they're respecting the X-Men lore.

Fallout 3 took a big dump on the Fallout series, then sort of tried to wave the stink away with their hand.
So then.... Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel then? Any mention of a spin-off that from what I heard was despised by fans of the series before Fallout 3 came along?
 
I gotta confess. I sort of like Fallout 3. I think next to BoS it's the worst Fallout. Still has some kind of charm I enjoy.
 
exball said:
I gotta confess. I sort of like Fallout 3. I think next to BoS it's the worst Fallout. Still has some kind of charm I enjoy.
If you make that confession, I may as well confess. I don't really care about what Fallout 3 has done to the series. Sure it's story may be bland and all but I don't care. Lore fans can complain but I won't, what I care about is the gameplay and I can assure you that Fallout 3 and New Vegas don't leave much room for strategy like Fallout 1 & 2. In fact, New Vegas and 3 can have all the mods they want, but can it give me the experience Fallout 2 did? Probably not, especially when some things within 1 & 2 made me in some way use my imagination, whether it's shooting a raider in the groin or just how my character looked compared to New Vegas and 3.
 
c-no said:
So then.... Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel then? Any mention of a spin-off that from what I heard was despised by fans of the series before Fallout 3 came along?

There is no "Brotherhood of Steel" . There is only Zuul.
 
Foulmouth said:
c-no said:
So then.... Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel then? Any mention of a spin-off that from what I heard was despised by fans of the series before Fallout 3 came along?

There is no "Brotherhood of Steel" . There is only Zuul.
So did Zuul appear in Fallout then. Did Zuul try to kill the Chosen One or the Vault Dweller?
 
Foulmouth said:
c-no said:
So then.... Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel then? Any mention of a spin-off that from what I heard was despised by fans of the series before Fallout 3 came along?

There is no "Brotherhood of Steel" . There is only Zuul.
Zuul motherfucker, Zuul.
 
What is this "Brotherhood of Steel" of which you speak ?
I've never heard of such heathen outlandish nonsense. :x
 
hey guiz

what about dis Brotherhood of steel?

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Dr. Cuddlebug said:
hey guiz

what about dis Brotherhood of steel?

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exball said:
Dr. Cuddlebug said:
hey guiz

what about dis Brotherhood of steel?

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I fucking love Tactics.
PvtRichardCarnium said "Also, Fallout Tactics, the best Fallout game (don't argue with me on that)".

Foulmouth said:
Dr. Cuddlebug said:
hey guiz

what about dis Brotherhood of steel?

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I SEE NOTHING !!!!
BLASPHEMY!!! YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAW FOULMOUTH, A FALLOUT GAME THAT STILL HAD ISOMETRIC GAMEPLAY. YOU WANT BLASPHEMY???? LOOK AT THIS!!!!!!!!!!
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Why do you hate me and baby jesus c-no ?
Why must you urinate in our faces like this ?
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
Foulmouth said:
Why do you hate me and baby jesus c-no ?
Why must you urinate in our faces like this ?
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Foulmoth, I'm just doing my job. Now if you don't mind, I like to get some people to hold you down and record your screams just like when Chris attended that school. I'm sure you will understand why.
 
c-no said:
Uzumaki said:
Luna said:
Okay, so they failed at every aspect of the lore because "reasons". They took an iconic faction, distilled it to the most stereotypical cliched portrayal you could possibly make, and then said "oh it's cool though because they're a splinter group". It's still not connected in any meaningful way to the other Fallout games. I can't eat excuses.

It's like I'm going to make an X-Men game, and I've decided that the Brotherhood are going to be just mindless megalomaniacs who want to DESTROY THE WORLD HAHAHAHA because they're supervillains. I don't care how rushed it is, or that "oh no it's a splinter group", that's shitty writing by people with clearly no understanding of the setting. You can make up your own stupid destroy-the-world team, don't say they're the Brotherhood, and especially don't tell me that because they call their destroy-the-world faction the Brotherhood that they're respecting the X-Men lore.

Fallout 3 took a big dump on the Fallout series, then sort of tried to wave the stink away with their hand.
So then.... Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel then? Any mention of a spin-off that from what I heard was despised by fans of the series before Fallout 3 came along?

Don't put words in my mouth, Brotherhood of Steel doesn't even count. The non-RPGs are just faffing about. Also: you have a weird fixation on the isometric view. Fallout was about content, not delivery.
 
Uzumaki said:
c-no said:
Uzumaki said:
It's like I'm going to make an X-Men game, and I've decided that the Brotherhood are going to be just mindless megalomaniacs who want to DESTROY THE WORLD HAHAHAHA because they're supervillains. I don't care how rushed it is, or that "oh no it's a splinter group", that's shitty writing by people with clearly no understanding of the setting. You can make up your own stupid destroy-the-world team, don't say they're the Brotherhood, and especially don't tell me that because they call their destroy-the-world faction the Brotherhood that they're respecting the X-Men lore.

Fallout 3 took a big dump on the Fallout series, then sort of tried to wave the stink away with their hand.
So then.... Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel then? Any mention of a spin-off that from what I heard was despised by fans of the series before Fallout 3 came along?

Don't put words in my mouth, Brotherhood of Steel doesn't even count. The non-RPGs are just faffing about. Also: you have a weird fixation on the isometric view. Fallout was about content, not delivery.[/quote]
Well okay, I should of expanded abit on Fallout 1 & 2. Aside from the isometric view, the gameplay itself did require more strategy than Fallout 3 and New Vegas. The pop-cultural references of Fallout 2 were good and Fallout 1, despite being the third Fallout game I played, did give make me feel each day spent trying to find a water chip and the super mutants was valuable, especially with what choice you made with the water merchants. The content Fallout 2 expanded with such as titles and perks added more such as becoming a boxer and gaining a perk from being a boxer if you beaten the champion.
 
Well okay, I should of expanded abit on Fallout 1 & 2. Aside from the isometric view, the gameplay itself did require more strategy than Fallout 3 and New Vegas. The pop-cultural references of Fallout 2 were good and Fallout 1, despite being the third Fallout game I played, did give make me feel each day spent trying to find a water chip and the super mutants was valuable, especially with what choice you made with the water merchants. The content Fallout 2 expanded with such as titles and perks added more such as becoming a boxer and gaining a perk from being a boxer if you beaten the champion.

You keep mentioning absurdly specific things like being a boxer. You can do similar, but not identical things in New Vegas, get special perks for accomplishing story goals. Fallout 2 wasn't a carbon copy of Fallout 1, it expanded and improved on the game and the premises. I don't know why you think New Vegas would just be a complete rehash in every aspect, down to the individual side-quests. Everything that made Fallout 1 and 2 fun and unique is present in New Vegas, the only things that are missing are circumstantial stuff like the isometric view or the bizarrely specific side content you keep going on about.

And unless you think turn based combat is just inherently more strategic, I don't see your strategy point at all.

And don't give me any of your passive aggressive "you just don't appreciate old games" noise. I played Fallout since the birth of the series. The original was my favorite game until 2 came out and replaced it, and 2 was my favorite game until New Vegas. I will out cantankerous old man you any day of the week. IN MY DAY THE INTERNET WAS ONLY FOR NERDS AND CANDY COST A NICKEL!

Edit: Your whole Isometric view > Lore position is so alien to me I don't even know if I can argue with you. All I can say is I never want to play the video games manufactured on your planet.
 
lets all stop fighting guys. We all like games in this series.
 
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