Fallout 76 General Thread - Bethesda does it again!

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Feline Darkmage said:
This was quite illuminating. Some of the stuff I didn't know about (just read this thread, previously just heard the major reports through youtubers: notably the nylon bag and the data breach). I also didn't realize how old and shitty Bethesda's engine was. I've basically only played Fallout 3/NV and like, Oblivion.

@Alan Pardew, can lolcow of the year awards next year have a special category for game dev/publisher studios that released horrible abominations or just acted lolcowish in general the last year or two?

Candidates:
-Bethesda (for well, THIS)
-EA (For the new Battlefront II game, and greed)
-Konami (in general but also for Metal Gear Survive)
-Sony (for the playstation classic debacle and censoring japanese boob games)
-Activision-Blizzard (for Diablo Immortal and increasing greed)
-TellTale Games (for literally shutting down because they couldn't budget and overworked their employees)
-and probably others, but that field is pretty cramped already
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The fallout has been discussed a lot and shitshows are interesting so I don’t see why not.
 
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So, what's the verdict on the writing in THIS game? From all indications, sounds like the shit got worse. For starters, "No human npcs"- yet by their own canon, there were definitely people who survived the nuclear holocaust on the surface. Just a single writing hole i'm looking down.
 
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DireCorby said:
So, what's the verdict on the writing in THIS game? From all indications, sounds like the shit got worse. For starters, "No human npcs"- yet by their own canon, there were definitely people who survived the nuclear holocaust on the surface. Just a single writing hole i'm looking down.
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It's all Fo3 tier garbage. You might be able to find good individual stories but its all just fetch quests with huge 20 minute tapes.

The story basically ruins the current lore. Instead of the Brotherhood being a mystery we now have Elder Maxson basically being Elder Lyons.

Also, it bugs the hell out of me that West Virginia,

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Is so damn diverse in this game. Literally every other NPC is Sanjay, Abuzz Zabibi or Juan.

I'd be fine with that if they at least provided some reason. I can imagine the state benefiting from federal contracts but it still seems to be a poor shithole.
 
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Apoth42 said:
It's all Fo3 tier garbage. You might be able to find good individual stories but its all just fetch quests with huge 20 minute tapes.

The story basically ruins the current lore. Instead of the Brotherhood being a mystery we now have Elder Maxson basically being Elder Lyons.

Also, it bugs the hell out of me that West Virginia,

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Is so damn diverse in this game. Literally every other NPC is Sanjay, Abuzz Zabibi or Juan.

I'd be fine with that if they at least provided some reason. I can imagine the state benefiting from federal contracts but it still seems to be a poor shithole.
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In fairness it was 2077 when the bombs dropped. Californians probably would've colonised West Virginia by then.
 
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Apoth42 said:
Is so damn diverse in this game. Literally every other NPC is Sanjay, Abuzz Zabibi or Juan.

I'd be fine with that if they at least provided some reason. I can imagine the state benefiting from federal contracts but it still seems to be a poor shithole.
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Didn't you know?
Cockroaches are said to easily survive a nuclear war
 
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Feline Darkmage said:
This was quite illuminating. Some of the stuff I didn't know about (just read this thread, previously just heard the major reports through youtubers: notably the nylon bag and the data breach). I also didn't realize how old and shitty Bethesda's engine was. I've basically only played Fallout 3/NV and like, Oblivion.

@Alan Pardew, can lolcow of the year awards next year have a special category for game dev/publisher studios that released horrible abominations or just acted lolcowish in general the last year or two?

Candidates:
-Bethesda (for well, THIS)
-EA (For the new Battlefront II game, and greed)
-Konami (in general but also for Metal Gear Survive)
-Sony (for the playstation classic debacle and censoring japanese boob games)
-Activision-Blizzard (for Diablo Immortal and increasing greed)
-TellTale Games (for literally shutting down because they couldn't budget and overworked their employees)
-and probably others, but that field is pretty cramped already
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I'd also personally nominate Avalanche Studios/Square Enix for putting out some of the most atrocious graphics in a 2018 video game in Just Cause 4.

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Apoth42 said:
It's all Fo3 tier garbage. You might be able to find good individual stories but its all just fetch quests with huge 20 minute tapes.

The story basically ruins the current lore. Instead of the Brotherhood being a mystery we now have Elder Maxson basically being Elder Lyons.

Also, it bugs the hell out of me that West Virginia,

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Is so damn diverse in this game. Literally every other NPC is Sanjay, Abuzz Zabibi or Juan.

I'd be fine with that if they at least provided some reason. I can imagine the state benefiting from federal contracts but it still seems to be a poor shithole.
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It's the same thing in most western big releases these days. You are in the middle of New York in The Division. Half the women have converted to Islam.

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Fagnacious D said:
It's only a little worse than Watch_Dogs....
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In a previous life, I may or may not have had a hand in world design and geometry building.

This shit is just inexcusable to me - No effort to cleanly resolve the geometry. How does something so lazy and obvious get by ?

I mean, any level designer with a modicum of self respect just doesn't do this sort of stuff.

That geometry like this makes it into a shipping game - some designer creating this area thought "Meh. Good enough" - some manager overlooked this work and said "Meh, looks good to me". Quality Control and Play Testing must have flagged it as bad geometry, and management's response must have been "Nah, it's good enough." - These are very deep systemic problems, that a product ships like this.
 
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Thiletonomics said:
I'd also personally nominate Avalanche Studios/Square Enix for putting out some of the most atrocious graphics in a 2018 video game in Just Cause 4.

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I’d be willing to bet that the geometry for those tracks is automatically generated via a bezier spline and someone blindly moved one of the points after all the supporting geometry had been laid around it. If it doesn’t get caught for a week or two it turns into this situation where you can either fix it and add a couple hours remapping everything around it or just ship it and hope nobody notices.
 
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