Fallout series

Zaryiu2 said:
I'M just tired of "adaptations".
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Hollywood and the media machine isn't, so get ready for more of these things.

Zaryiu2 said:
Unrelated but here's a NV and Fallout 2 related question: Is there any set of endings in Fallout 2 that makes sense with the NCR becoming like it is in New Vegas?
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Not that I know of. Outside of maybe the one where the NCR expands?

"Your help with Vault 15 launched the New California Republic's push to civilize its neighbors. Though there were many more obstacles to overcome, the NCR now had a foothold into the northern wastes."
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
Not that I know of. Outside of maybe the one where the NCR expands?

"Your help with Vault 15 launched the New California Republic's push to civilize its neighbors. Though there were many more obstacles to overcome, the NCR now had a foothold into the northern wastes."
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And over time peaceful, negotiated expansion became the NCR showing its neighbors its civilized ways... THROUGH VIOLENCE.
 
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Mola Ram said:
Well, war never changes.
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Pretty much, yeah. I mean, can't rebuild society without breaking a few eggs civilizing a few tribals. They've just been nicer about it than the Legion has. Hell, the New Vegas ending where the Khans ally with a victorious NCR has the Khans winding up on a barren reservation well away from anything useful like trade routes before too long.

But hey, if Bitter-Root is being honest about what the Khans are like, they're a perfect fit for rez culture.
 
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Mola Ram said:
In fairness, the FO3 crashed alien ship is itself a reference to the original Fallout, which had a dozen or so very rare desert encounters (how likely you were to find them was based on Luck), the most famous of which was the crashed UFO with a couple of alien skeletons ... and the Alien Blaster, far and away the most powerful one handed pistol in the game.

Of course, in Fallout the aliens were just a gag, like the disappearing TARDIS or Godzilla's footprint with a crushed corpse in the middle of it. It was Bethesda that gave us the retardation that is the Zetans and all the lore-breaking stupidity that goes with them.
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IIRC the alien ship in Fallout 1 was canon, whereas stuff like TARDIS was from Fallout 2.

Also, based on how boring I find Wasteland 2-3, I really hope NVfags don't suck the silly out of Fallout.
 
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Mola Ram said:
Far Harbor is definitely worth it, both for the loot and the location. The writing is, IMO, good enough that it'll make you angry the base game wasn't written similarly.

Nuka World is a lot of fun to explore, and it gives you what amounts to an alternate settlement system, but you're basically forced to play as a Raider if you want to experience a lot of the content. YMMV how irritating that is.

Automatron is in my opinion underrated. Making killer robots is a hoot. Pretty thin on the story, just enough to justify the addition of said robots, but it's fine for what it is.

Vault Tec Workshop gives you a gigantic cavern to build a Vault in, but how to actually build that Vault is frustratingly unintuitive, like much of the settlement system in general.

The other two Workshops are pretty much worthless. One of them has weapons, armor, and ammo factories that's an interesting addition in concept, but by the time you can build them you're liable to have loot falling out of your ass anyway.
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The bundle is for sale on steam for $14 this weekend, so I just got them all.
 
Ser Prize said:
IIRC the alien ship in Fallout 1 was canon, whereas stuff like TARDIS was from Fallout 2.

Also, based on how boring I find Wasteland 2-3, I really hope NVfags don't suck the silly out of Fallout.
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While I agree, (and they will, don't you worry.), I'm very curious how Wasteland 3 leads to boring. Do you mean gameplay wise?

Cus two early game factions in WL3 are a psychopathic religion of clowns (literally clown world before it was a thing), and a bunch of fuckheads in old Universal Monster outfits, IIRC, called the Monster mash. If you want silly, there it is.
 
My internet is slow as shit and my computer is a potato. Is it worth wasting days of my life downloading Fallout 4 and downgrading or is it really as bad as all the hype says it is?
 
EndertheXenocide said:
My internet is slow as shit and my computer is a potato. Is it worth wasting days of my life downloading Fallout 4 and downgrading or is it really as bad as all the hype says it is?
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Like most games of current year, it's fine for what it is but it's shit when compared to its predecessors.

Gameplay and progression are massive improvements compared to the other FPS fallouts. Gunplay, while not amazing, feels so much better. I also prefer progression since it gives you more immediate and noticeable improvements.

Writing and quest design are just as bad as everyone makes it out to be though.
 
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Dr. Geronimo said:
Like most games of current year, it's fine for what it is but it's shit when compared to its predecessors.

Gameplay and progression are massive improvements compared to the other FPS fallouts. Gunplay, while not amazing, feels so much better. I also prefer progression since it gives you more immediate and noticeable improvements.

Writing and quest design are just as bad as everyone makes it out to be though.
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I'm going to go against the grain and say the world is actually a lot of fun to explore. As far as wrecked cities go, Boston is more immersive and seamless than the DC ruins, and way more extensive than anything in New Vegas.

The writing is mostly shit, but some of the companions are well done. Nick Valentine is a top tier Fallout companion, and a few of the others aren't far behind.
 
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Mola Ram said:
I'm going to go against the grain and say the world is actually a lot of fun to explore. As far as wrecked cities go, Boston is more immersive and seamless than the DC ruins, and way more extensive than anything in New Vegas.

The writing is mostly shit, but some of the companions are well done. Nick Valentine is a top tier Fallout companion, and a few of the others aren't far behind.
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Yeah, but doesn't Boston run about as well as Blighttown did?
 
Mola Ram said:
I have no idea what this means. Not snarking, I honestly don't know what you're talking about.
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Don't worry about it. Basically an area in Dark Souls 1 ran like ass and I was just drawing a parallel. People say Boston has a low FPS and I'm worried it could lock my computer up. I'd hate to get into the game and find out I can't enter half the map.
Dr. Geronimo said:
If you have a modern rig you should be fine.
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I got 4 whole gigs of RAM, lol.
 
EndertheXenocide said:
Don't worry about it. Basically an area in Dark Souls 1 ran like ass and I was just drawing a parallel. People say Boston has a low FPS and I'm worried it could lock my computer up. I'd hate to get into the game and find out I can't enter half the map.

I got 4 whole gigs of RAM, lol.
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I don't have a top flight rig, but honestly Fallout 4 is probably the modern game that runs the best on it. Very smooth animations, nice framerate. I never had any problems.

I, uh, do have more RAM than you, though.
 
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Mola Ram said:
I don't have a top flight rig, but honestly Fallout 4 is probably the modern game that runs the best on it. Very smooth animations, nice framerate. I never had any problems.

I, uh, do have more RAM than you, though.
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I've had some issues with downtown Boston. If you get too much going on like fights between raiders or Gunners and super mutants, especially if you run as fast as you can past all of it, you're risking a crash as the game tries and fails to load all those encounter-heavy cells in and out of memory.

That said, from a purely technical standpoint its impressive they got it working. I can't think of a lot of games that have something like that, not just with the encounters but both the density and the sheer scale of how big Boston is, especially since so much of it takes place on a vertical axis. DC wasn't chopped up like that for no reason, after all.
 
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EndertheXenocide said:
My internet is slow as shit and my computer is a potato. Is it worth wasting days of my life downloading Fallout 4 and downgrading or is it really as bad as all the hype says it is?
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I have only a shitty laptop at the moment, tried to run F4 on it. My advice: don't. The game looks like dogshit in low res. Not in a "bad graphics" way, it's plain ugly. Just play an older game that your pc can run.
 
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