Fallout series

[Big Fat Frog]

How hard is it to get into New Vegas?

If you’ve never played a Bethesda Fallout game before, try playing Fallout 4 first. 4 is like baby’s first Fallout but it succeeds well in introducing you to the basics. New Vegas takes some time to adjust especially since the gunplay is not as refined as 4’s and the game has a jank, and items actually have drawbacks and advantages when using them and aren’t just +/- HP or rads. Also choose your perks wisely because it isn’t like 4 where you can splooge your level up on the best perks.

 

[Arcade Gannon]

How hard is it to get into New Vegas?

New Vegas is pretty easy to get into. The RPG mechanics are fairly straightforward, with complexity introduced gradually as you level up. About the only bad choice at character creation is maxing out Charisma, and even that won't hurt you too badly. It's not like Morrowind where you get your ass kicked for no apparent reason.

 

[TheHarbinger]

It's not like Morrowind where you get your ass kicked for no apparent reason.

You can take some wrong turns early in New Vegas. Running North straight into the Cazadores. Trying to go anywhere near the rock quarry and getting swarmed by all of the Deathclaws. Even the Powder Gangers can be dangerous to an early character. New Vegas tries to railroad the player into going to Primm and its surrounding areas by making every other path exceptionally dangerous.

 

[30+GameOvers]

How hard is it to get into New Vegas?

If you're going to play just one Fallout game, make it this one. It's easy to get into and you can make literally any build you want, they are all viable(can't be said for the other games in the series). If you like the game, I suggest playing the oldschool ones(1 and 2), altho they are much harder and unforgiving. You will hear about the events, people, factions and lore from the first two aplenty in New Vegas, so they are more for flavor than anything. If you choose not to play these games, Many a True Nerd did a good playthru of both of them, he is also more of a F3/NV fan than an oldschool one so the playthrus are also from a similar point of view as what you would get.
If you liked the gameplay of NV, F3 offers the same thing, in a much more rudimentary form(almost like a tech test of what would become NV). The only thing it has over NV is the exploration, you genuinely want to explore the world and look into every nook and cranny, where as NV has a very boring world that doesn't have much in the way of random encounters(mostly static ones), where as you never know what will happen in The Capital Wasteland. Best reason to own F3 and all it's DLC is to play The Tale of Two Wastelands, which is both games in one(Fallout 3 with gameplay and items of New Vegas, and ability to bring all the gear from F3 into NV and vice versa).
I would not recommend Fallout 4 or 76. They are Bethesda slop that resemble Skyrim more than a proper Fallout game. Fallout 4 can be fun at times, don't get me wrong, but it's simply not Fallout: It's Skyrim with radiation and guns(or a slightly less shitty version of Starfield, you decide)
For an oddball choice, there is Fallout Tactics, a squad based strategy game with elements of RPG that plays similarly to oldschool Fallout. Strictly for hardcore veterans that played both OG games, as the combat builds up from the foundations those two have build and the game requires you to understand the RPG mechanics behind them, as you will not only control one character, but 5 others as well, in real time combat as opposed to turn based if you choose.

Like I said, NV is clearly the best one, and short of playing the original two titles, the one you should play first. Recently, the game got a lot of flak from Bethesda fanboys, jealous of it's success and legacy, but don't let that fool you, it really is one of the best western RPGs ever made. I suggest playing vanilla with all DLC for the first playthru, then going to town with mods for a second playthru, and once you play Fallout 3 and modded New Vegas at least once, move on to Tale of Two Wastelands(which not only accepts all NV mods, it also has quite a few TTW unique mods as well. Theoretically, any and all F3 ones could work as well, but since they were made with an older version of the engine, they require quite a bit of fiddling around with the GECK to make work, strictly for Bethesda modding veterans). Oh, and OG Fallout 1 and 2 both have their own overhaul mods that restore cut content and fix the many bugs, No Mutants Allowed forum is your friend there

 

[Snekposter]

-If Courier befriends the Boomers, Legion can carpet bomb NCR cities without any retaliation

Na, Caesar leaves the Boomers alone even if you finish Volare! for them. If you don't complete Volare! they're slaughtered to the last despite the Legion taking massive losses, and considering Caesar refuses to use whatever is inside the bunker on Fortification Hill in favor of flesh and blood, I doubt he'll use a B-29.

-Legion has access all the technologies of Big Empty

Again, no. Conquering the place would result in heavy losses and he'd probably just smash it all to pieces as a perfect example of the Old World's decadence and rot. Keep in mind the Courier is physically incapable of speaking about the place, so he'd need to rely on his Frumentarii instead of the Courier.

-NCR lost most of its army to what they percieved as bunch of savage raiders - whatever is left of it has extremely low morale, and war support among civilian population is even lower

An unpopular and expensive war over who gets to annex a fringe territory cannot be compared to a direct attack on the NCR itself. They also didn't lose most of their Army since again, New Vegas is a frontier territory that is only marginally garrisoned and patrolled with everyone there admitting the NCR is overstretched and they need to send more men. If the bulk of the NCR military is there, there would be no way they'd able to lose entire platoons on a single BoS bunker and still prosecute the fight against the BoS as House mentions after you clear the one in Hidden Valley for him. On top of that Caesar moving west to continue the fight would only galvanize the NCR populace into supporting the war efforts once it becomes clear he's an existential threat.

-NCR is still at war with western Brotherhood

The NCR was already winning that war despite being overstretched in both Baja and Nevada and said massive losses as mentioned above, and with affairs in Nevada settled they'd refocus their efforts on things closer to home. From what I could gin up from dialogue its mostly gone cold, the BoS lacking the experienced soldiers to do more than raid the odd caravan and as a result the NCR has sent their experienced field commanders to the Dam. Shit, Colonel Moore managed to survive four tours of duty fighting the BoS so things can't be going that badly for them there.

-It is stated by one of the characters (the scientist that wants you to go to vault 22) that NCR will experience famine in just 10 years, assuming Legion sabotages NCR's agriculture (burns crops and shit) it will happen even faster

That's if nothing changes, but considering they have the Office of Science and Industry already on the case that's definitely up in the air.

 

[Night Crawler]

Fallout 1 and 2 are the only real Fallout games.

There, I said it.

 

[Mola Ram]

Fallout 1 and 2 are the only real Fallout games.

There, I said it.

The only real Fallout game is Wasteland.

 

[Night Crawler]

The only real Fallout game is Wasteland.

Wasteland is its own game. Though Fallout 1 and 2 took a lot of inspiration from that game. It's not a Fallout game though.

 

[Snekposter]

Oh, by the way, I found a mod that's pretty much a must-have.

A degenerate like him belongs on a cross...

 

[Mola Ram]

Wasteland is its own game. Though Fallout 1 and 2 took a lot of inspiration from that game. It's not a Fallout game though.

No, you're wrong. The only true Fallout is Wasteland. They failed before they even began. Progression beyond the greatness of 1988 is not possible.

 

[Tsukasa Kadoya]

It's not like Morrowind where you get your ass kicked for no apparent reason.

Morrowind would be great if it didn't have bullshit like creatures that paralyzed you with every hit.
As much as I hate how bloated and ugly everyone looks in Oblivion the gameplay was MUCH better. Skyrim dumbed it down a lot but thankfully it didn't fuck you over with "Oh you invested in those perks in that order? Well now you're stuck, start over asshole"

 

[Mysterious Autist XX]

I feel like I am in the minority who enjoys every game, besides 3 to a degree, for its strengths while being able to look past their flaws, besides some of those god damn gun designs in 4 my God are they fucking ugly. The main issue with 3 for me is a personal one and a bit of a PL so I will keep it to myself. That said though I am in the camp that things 1, 2 and New Vegas are the best in the series overall in no particular order.

4 is a great game, but a terrible Fallout title I will not deny it but it's something I find myself returning to almost as often as I do 1/2 and NV just because I find the core pretty damn fun, it's a shame the story blows chunks but at least some of the characters are cool like Hancock and Nick. Anyways fuck the Railroad and the BoS in it is just diet Enclave change my mind.

EDIT: Also glad it looks like Imperator fucked off again, dude always shits up the thread when shows up.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

I feel like I am in the minority who enjoys every game, besides 3 to a degree, for its strengths while being able to look past their flaws, besides some of those god damn gun designs in 4 my God are they fucking ugly. The main issue with 3 for me is a personal one and a bit of a PL so I will keep it to myself. That said though I am in the camp that things 1, 2 and New Vegas are the best in the series overall in no particular order.

4 is a great game, but a terrible Fallout title I will not deny it but it's something I find myself returning to almost as often as I do 1/2 and NV just because I find the core pretty damn fun, it's a shame the story blows chunks but at least some of the characters are cool like Hancock and Nick. Anyways fuck the Railroad and the BoS in it is just diet Enclave change my mind.

EDIT: Also glad it looks like Imperator fucked off again, dude always shits up the thread when shows up.

Yeah, i'm with you.
Fallout 3 has it's moments but with TTW is more playable IMO.
Fallout 4 simplified a lot the New Vegas's mods and ammo systems, but using a Irradiated Radium Rifle in high difficulty is broken enough.

 

[Mysterious Autist XX]

Yeah, i'm with you.
Fallout 3 has it's moments but with TTW is more playable IMO.
Fallout 4 simplified a lot the New Vegas's mods and ammo systems, but using a Irradiated Radium Rifle in high difficulty is broken enough.

There is more to it besides that but yeah TTW is the only way I can really enjoy playing 3.

That it did but there is just something about the core gunplay itself that feels nicer, I can't really put my finger on it but a lot of them just feel nice to shoot when you aren't using like the Minigun or assault rifle for well known reasons, the Radium Rifle is probably my 5th favorite gun overall in the game after the lever action rifle, deliverer, revolver and handmade rifle.

 

[DOUBLE_WHEEL]

That it did but there is just something about the core gunplay itself that feels nicer

That's because id helped with the combat in 4

 

[TVB]

Fallout 1 and 2 are the only real Fallout games.

There, I said it.

2 was the best imo

 

[The handsome tard]

Not really. Not in terms of the games at least. We'll never see the legion or anything related to it in the series. Ever. Because the legion is literally a slave army who goes around conquering everything, enslaving women and treating them as literal chattel and breeding machines for more slave soldiers. Nobody is going to put that in a tv show, let alone amazon of all companies. The left would collectively lose its shit and you'd have every feminist, womans rights group and sjw group screeching how amazon hates women and demanding they cancel the series, publicly apologize and pay millions to left wings womens groups

We live in times where not even your EVIL FACTION can be too evil. For fuck's sakes...

People don't "use tropes." This would be like saying people "use" their own blood to carry oxygen and nutrients to the areas that need then.

Stories have elements that support dramatic structuring. Calling them "tropes" neither values nor devalues them. Tropes simply are. Without them, stories would just be encyclopedias.

Tropes are to a story what bricks are to a house. Its all about how you build something with them.

And those who started with Bethesda Fallouts but now prefer the RPG mechanics and don't want Bethesda style games anymore including many who went back and played through the first two games.

I started with 3 and NV, eventually played 1 and 2 (Tactics didnt click with me, which is fine) and all I wanted was for Bethesda to learn the lessons of the previous games and make a game that is the best of both worlds. I dont think the franchise needs to return to the old style (tho I would welcome a new game in that style), it just needs to maintain the good that people liked, build upon it and make an experience that tries to leave both worlds satisfied enough.

And after Starfield, its very clear Bethesda shows an impressive amount of not giving a shit. The whole thing is giving a lot of dread for the T.E.S 6's future and Fallout 5 on a smaller extent atm.

A quick remaster with the quality of life mods like actually being able interact with the inventories of your companions. Or being able to control the font and text size of the dialog that is displayed. Widescreen support and so on. Maybe remastered audio as well and better audio balancing when spoken dialog is happening. And bug fixes and quest fixes for stuff was that was broken.

No one wants a full remake because no studio could do it properly without infecting Fallout with their own head-canon or design choices.

And even then, we already have mods that bring quality of life improvements for modern machinery and bring back cut features like the super mutant army taking over other settlements when enough time passes by (only in Necropolis that happens).

 

[Mysterious Autist XX]

That's because id helped with the combat in 4

That would explain everything, no wonder.

 

[Cpt. Stud Beefpile]

Finished a year in 4 trying to actually BE the new General of the Minutemen and consider shit like proper equipment, logistics and supply routes. It actually ended up being an interesting thought exercise. Bonus screenshot that got photobombed by a cat.

What's frustrating is that friendly NPC's cannot use some kinds of weapons effectively and some of the weapon attachments at all. If there's a mod that lets them aim down the sights of the top-tier scope I gave their rifle or swap their current weapon depending on engagement range, I haven't found it.

 

[Mysterious Autist XX]

Finished a year in 4 trying to actually BE the new General of the Minutemen and consider shit like proper equipment, logistics and supply routes. It actually ended up being an interesting thought exercise.

What's frustrating is that friendly NPC's cannot use some kinds of weapons effectively and some of the weapon attachments at all. If there's a mod that lets them aim down the sights of the top-tier scope I gave their rifle or swap their current weapon depending on engagement range, I haven't found it.

Honestly doing stuff like that actually is part of what makes 4 a fun and enjoyable experience for me, same goes in to designing an aesthetically pleasing settlement that has defenses that actually make sense and don't just boil down to slapping turrets everywhere to rip things to shreds, of course having sim settlements, just classic AIO and conqueror I haven't tried 2 yet, makes it easier to just have it happen on its own then I just need to fix the wiring when I get there and assign the settlers to fix their AI.

As for the NPC stuff I dunno since I generally just give anyone I have set to defend using a collection of handmade rifles from when I slaughter the pack at the end of Nuka World, degenerates like them belong on the cross, or before that I arm them with shit like combat rifles and hunting rifles depending on their position and even though I tend to run Amazing Follower Tweaks and Better Companions I more often than not only run around with just Dogmeat cause he is a good boy who's model was based off a female dog, RIP River, and his general nature makes me feel like a deceased dog of mine is still with me in some way. Plus the x and their dog trope is a rather effective one especially in a post apocalyptic setting.