Fallout series

They should loosen up a bit and wait until Obsidian develops the next Fallout with elements straight from 4, but reworked a little differently.

Or that's how it'll probably go. Play mostly the same but have a few things closer to RPG.

I think that's being rather optimistic at this point. I'd love another Obsidian Fallout but I'm not holding out any hope atm.
 
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God dammit. This game really is just a lost cause, isn't it.
 
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Diary of Tyson Andrews,
October 22nd, 2077.
Carpool was late today, and Austin was up to his Official Office Asshole Antics again. He stole the Nuka-Cola I was saving. I even put a sticky note on it that said "Tyson Andrews". He claims that he "never saw it". Asshole.
Anyway, aside from that little incident, things have been alright. We all chipped in and got a box of donuts. The case I'm on seems to be going well, looks like the defendant is going to try for a plea bargain. Considering how much shit he has against him, we have the upper hand in negotiations.
Back on the homefront, Shaun is over that cough he had the past week. Thank god, Cybil got it and I was afraid I'd carry it into the office. Cybil's doing well. that Mr Handy bot has taken a lot off her hands, and we actually have time to go out and do things again. We're thinking about going out to Boston this weekend and taking a hike at the zoo.
I am a bit worried about the stuff happening on the front. Looks like our boys are making great strides into Red turf, and I wouldn't put it past the commies to try something. I've enrolled us in the local vault program, they gave me a massive veterans discount.
Gonna have to repair our kitchen faucet, it's been leaking again.

Diary of Tyson Andrews.
Unknown Month, ??nd, ????
I can't believe it. just. everything is gone.
I woke up, was getting ready for work, and the TV starts going crazy. Then....troops moving down the street. Cybil grabbed Shaun, and we ran like hell towards the vault. We almost didn't make it. we'd probably be better off if we didn't make it.
They brought us in with a bunch of other people. whole processing line, like a people factory. They were all reassuring us, telling us it would be fine. lies. they stuck us in some sort of pod, and everything got cold
and
and I woke up. and these people...feral people...were pulling shaun out of his pod. probably to eat him or something. and then everything got cold again.
next thing i remember I was laying on the floor, wet and soggy, and the whole vault was in ruins. Cybil...oh god Cybil...I looked in her pod and she was sludge. Everything had rotted into muck. Same with the others. Oh god, the others. The whole thing smelled like rotting meat.
I stumbled out, managed to find a pistol on the skeleton of one of those vault tac fuckers. Looks like he ate it. I was groping my way out, when I touched something hard and sleek. And moving. I started firing off rounds like crazy, and I heard a screech. Knocked it out into the light. It was a cockroach. A giant cockroach. like in one of them sci-fi movies.
I heard a skittering sound, and saw a bunch more of them move out of the darkness, attracted by the gunfire.
I kept shooting until I was out of bullets. And then I kept swinging whatever I could grab at them until I found myself covered in blood and roach guts, hitting the mangled corpse of one with a hammer and screaming.
I threw away the hammer, and continued wandering the metal corridors of the vault. I noticed a slight breeze. I followed, groping at the walls. Light! I tripper the fallen vault door, and scrambled int the atrium. From the top of the elevator shaft I could see light.
I collapsed and curled up in a fetal position. I stayed like this for god knows how many hours.

Diary of Tyson Andrews.
Unknown Month, Day 01, ????
There is nothing out there but rocks and ruins.
Oh god, I emerged into the sun, weeping with joy to feel it on my face after who knows how many years.
I stumbled off the lift and heard a crunch.
A skeleton. A bunch of them. All camped around the vault exterior.
I may be the only man left in a world of the dead.
Yes, I saw to others. The ones who took Shaun. But they looked feral. And who knows how many years ago that was. They're probably long dead, the last members of a race dying in the world it created.
My head hurts. I find it hard too think. I think I may have brain damage from the cyrogenics.
I tried walking away from the vault, to find something, some evidence I'm not alone.
I found my house. My neighborhood. All in shambles.
I scavenged through them, hoping to find some trace of life. I only found a few bottles of wonderglue and some turpentine. Teens used to get high off of that, didn't they? Or did they fry their brains and die?
At this point, both of these sound appealing. I'm going to dump a bunch of these into a rag I pulled off a skeleton, and huff it.
If anyone finds this Diary, be it a man, an alien, or a sentient cockroach, consider it the final legacy of me, Tyson Andrews, and of the 21st century man.


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fug, hed hurt. why i writen in buk? cuz writin iz whut smrt peopl do and i smrertist motherfuker around, cuz everyun iz dead. I'M THE OLY ONE LEFT, AND I RUL THE SKELLIJANS AND ASHIZ!!!! I AM TH SKELIJAN KING!!!!!
 
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Remember that post from Walpknut where he literally took the moral guardian stance to bash FO4?
Walpknut said:
frajaq said:
See you're speaking as if Fallout Fans is a single monolithic entity that has NO DIFFERENT OPINIONS. Or something silly like only people that liked the classics are the "true" fans.

Anyway, what the first creators of the franchise wanted with Fallout literally does not matter anymore, they shouldn't have sold the IP in the first place. Bethesda are the new creators of the franchise, and as a fan of Fallout I really like their style of games. I would admit easily that Fallout 4 has a lot of flaws but it's not a trash game by any stretch of imagination.
Fallout 4 eventually de-evolves into a crapfest of explosions, Vaultboy animations popping up on screen every 10 seconds accompained with their specific loud sound effect and enemies exploding into coins and gore and weapons with so many "KEWL!" adjectives on the name that they don't even fit on the menu.
Anyone who would see something like that would think that it's like what a mom in the 90's or a panic mongerer political pundit thinks all games are like and not representative of the medium.... but no, it's an actual videogame that Bethesda put out under the name of what was once a brainy rpg series.

Enjoy your cultural vandalism.
Well, here he is in the GamerGate thread defending Hatred. And comparing the "brainy rpg" Fallout games to them, invariably contradicting how he classified them in the prior post.
Walpknut said:
So Anita Sarkeesian is a dumb intellectually dishonest hack that gives feminism a bad name, more news at eleven.


So Hatred, how many here are on the "let's bash Hatred for being offensive" bandwagon? I recently started getting into the controversy and I can say it's just another example of the immaturity of the medium Via neo-moral guardians pretending to be progressive.
Walpknut said:
Nobody seems to mind Grand Tefth Auto(and the ones that do are usually made fun of) and the plethora of War games. Hell in Fallout you can go on a kill spree and kill kids if you damn well please and it will end until you kill everybody, they kill you (or in the case of 1 and 2 until you get to the exit grid).
Gaming can be art, but only when it doesn't cross any lines, and it adheres to a list of accepted guidlines, even if the usage of it is completely voluntary every single game has to be molded by moral guardians rules, even when the thing presented is not being glorified they still can't have "unacceptable"things.
Oh Walpknut, you are such a cow. I wonder if you could get your very own thread?

Oh but the dissonate congicance doesn't stop there. Here's a couple posts from a few pages back (emph mine):
Crni Vuk said:
I know what you mean, and I tend to agree. Though, don't forget that people tend not to look very fondly at what you could call "fanboys", the kind of people which are extremely involved in their hobby and will do everything to defend it what ever if it makes sense or not. - And I am not talking about you here, I WAS a pretty huge gamer in my teenage days, but I am just disillusioned by the negative sides of the culture today.
Ilosar said:
And while I concede that video games have nowhere near the monopoly of a hardcore fanbase, it just seems a more toxic one to me, and comes with a shitload of posturing. The whole ''who's a real gamer'' thing has been going on for sometime. Casual vs hardcore is even older. ''Real'' (game of genre X) vs the, I don't know, not-real (game of genre X). ''Real RPG'' in particular being thrown around a lot in some places. Many people seem to take it as some sort of badge of honor that elevates you above the drroling ''casual'' pleb, rather than just a statement of fact that video games are your hobby.
TorontRayne said:
I agree. Many people take the gamer thing to an extreme, acting like man children or raving lunatics. These people would be like that without gaming. They need to die off and let new and smarter people take their place like God wills it. I play games. I game. I am a gamer. If that is childish or the name has somehow been sullied by nonsense, then so be it. I don't call myself a gamer in casual talk.
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A friend of mine is an eager "Gamer", and every time he visits, he is updating me on the "war" between PC and console, and he is SO angry about it. I overtly try to draw the curtains aside, show him the nice weather, ask him where this war is being fought, what the casualties are, but nothing, his emotional relation to this is equal to a world disaster of disastrous proportions.

If only people could spend that much emotional effort on real issues. Or just calm the hell down.
These words coming out of the premiere "DIRTY CASUALS ARE RUINING FALLOUT AND I AM ANGRY ABOUT IT!!!" forum is some top. Motherfucking. Kek.

Also, fuck typing/pasting these names out. USE REAL WORDS, GODFUCKIT.
 
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Still reading the fuck out of the GamerGate thread. This Sander person is one real piece of work.
Sander said:
Choices are not made in a vacuum. When a woman chooses not to enter engineering because culture tells her it's not a woman's job, that's a problem. When she doesn't go into IT because it doesn't have a friendly work environment for women, that's a problem. When she doesn't have a background in chemistry because culture told her at twelve years old that science is a male interest, that's a problem. When she doesn't go into investment banking because it's man's world, that's a problem. When she's the one who quits her job to take care of the kids rather than her husband simply because that's what society expects to happen, that's a problem.

And we know all of those decisions are heavily influenced by culture and not "natural", because we have cross-country and historical comparisons which show massive differences in these choices. Just one example:

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(source: http://www.oecd.org/education/48111145.pdf, 16)

And now you'll say that of course you agree that all those specific examples are bad, which is what you've done for 80 pages whenever a specific example is given. And then you won't change your opinion one iota. The problem is that you refuse to connect those specific examples with each other, and with all of the evidence of systemic problems, like the gender pay gap. Instead you blame the pay gap on "choice", which to you ends the discussion, whereas to me and other feminists that's only the beginning of the conversation.

Not to mention that that's simply incorrect, and direct discrimination is absolutely part of the gender pay gap.
Sander said:
Walpknut said:
She also claims to have been a gamer her whole life while older videos show her denying liking games. Which, makes one of those two things LYING.
This is not true. There's a single video (not multiple) where she says that she's "not a fan of video games." Note that she does not say she doesn't play them, nor does she say she's never played them. And she was making that statement in the context of specifically violent video games that dominated gaming (and still do) that don't appeal to her: "I would love to play video games, but I don't want to go around shooting people and ripping off their heads, it's just gross." And all of this was, of course, part of a situation where she was speaking off the top of her head -- a situation where people often misspeak. There's also a picture of her playing games as a child (from here). There are plenty of pictures of her with a massive video game collection, and she has a history of talking about video games as well.

So, perhaps she doesn't consider herself a "fan" but does consider herself a gamer. Perhaps she misspoke. Perhaps she has played games her whole life but doesn't like most of the games on offer. Instead of trying to figure out whether there's a reasonable explanation, though, you just call her a liar.

This kind of critique is part of a common demonizing of Sarkeesian as anything other than simply a cultural critique. Those critiques work to create excuses not to take her seriously -- like the accusations that she's a con artist, or that she doesn't believe what she presents. She talked about that at XOXO festival, and addresses your specific complaint in that video. And none of that is relevant to her critique: whether or not she's been a gamer forever does not matter to the content of what she says. Nor does whether or not she believes it. Nor do any of those other conspiracy theories.
And that's not even touching how she legitimately, unironically uses Kotaku, motherfucking Kotaku, as a credible argumentative and journalistic source.

Of course this is going off-topic and I don't think we'll be getting a Sander thread any time soon. *sigh*
 
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Right now I'm just playing Skyrim as I wait for DLC and the mods to get here.

I chose the Institute ending. I have nothing against the Railroad and even agree that synths are people, but I was thinking in terms of... there's a chance you could actually change the Institute's ways, and there's even a quest (provided you didn't get too far into the Railroad's questline) where you can replace the guy in charge of hunting down synths with someone who is more sympathetic towards them and will only bring back those who WANT to be brought back. The Institute with its technology seemed like the best choice for helping the world heal.

Anyway, I feel like there was a bit of oversight in the Institute ending regarding Synth!Shaun. Out of all the endings, his is the most bugged in an Institute one and while it's a minor gripe I hope it gets fixed.
 
I just downloaded the entire Mojave Music Radio onto my phone. MP3, but if you demand the extra immersion, use the .AMR format, low sound quality but overall more fitting to the post-50's radio boxes.
 
A Troika-made Fallout would've been interesting to say the least. They made VtM: Bloodlines, and that's one of my favorite PC RPGs of all time.
I think a lot of the people behind Troika ended up with Obsidian, so New Vegas is probably the closest we're gonna get.

It's also the best Fallout game. Coincidence?
 
Bought by Troika? plaZeHD has a point in that Troika wasn't economically stable. Their games, as good as they were and as they are, didn't rake in enough money for them to stay afloat. Killian Star's comparison for Bethesda is testament in showing how much butthurt there is. True, Bethesda has shit writing compared to Black Ilse/Obsidian but it's not like 3 did anything bad. If one has to really be that sort of guy in thinking Todd Howard and his group are the devil to Fallout, the worst Bethesda did was just get second place since Brotherhood of Steel was worse, and this is in terms of lore if part of the hatred is mostly coming from lore.

I think a lot of the people behind Troika ended up with Obsidian, so New Vegas is probably the closest we're gonna get.

It's also the best Fallout game. Coincidence?
That could be possible though Obsidian if I recall correctly also comprised of former members of Black Isle such as Chris Avellone.
 
The only horribly fucked up shit with Bethesda is just the next TES/Fallout being a bit more casual and having bland writing but even then people can still enjoy the game if they wanted fun. If they have to say Bethesda games like Skyrim and Fallout 3 were buggy pieces of crap, they should know this goes back as far to Daggerfall which some can say is more of a hard-core RPG than Morrowind in terms of combat. Besides, these people come off as overly-dramatic plus it could be worse. A company like EA or Activision could of gutted the series and make it like COD.
 
I really don't like how they changed super mutants in 4. I mean I know they give a reason why they're different and that's cool, but they just don't have that terrifying presence they had in the older games. They're so scrawny, and their battle cries are so cliche. They don't really seem like the hulking monsters I've come to know and be terrified of, they just look like a bunch of pissed off guys with giganticism cosplaying as gumby.
 
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