Fallout series

Ridley said:
You don't even have to care about any of that shit. Objectively-speaking there are so many mods for New Vegas that tweak visuals, gameplay, add new mechanics, etc. that it becomes the best Fallout simply from a content standpoint. Obviously there's hand-made mods of Fallout 1/2's isometric engine but even with those entire brand new games they still don't approach the sheer amount of ways you can fuck around with New Vegas.
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Saying a game is good because it has a ton of mods never made sense to me.
 
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Bottlecaps as the iconic currency never bothered me really. I kind of like them as a concept, it could just use a better reason to exist where it otherwise might not.
Mysterious Autist XX said:
Honest Hearts' characters and overall writing but my God is it probably the most boring thing in the game
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I don't even think the writing outside of Burnt Face Christ Man is any good. The conflict is very generic good vs bad and regardless of who you side with the other party just sort of trots along with no complaint. The companions are dull as well and the side content is universally drab and uninteresting. The other DLCs are way better I don't know how anyone can unironically say Dead Money or Lonesome Road are worse.
Lone Star said:
Saying a game is good because it has a ton of mods never made sense to me
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With Bethesda engine games mods are a massive selling point. It maybe doesn't factor into how you should rate the vanilla game but someone saying that the mods can turn a mediocre experience into a fantastic one if you're willing to do that isn't really wrong
 
Mega Black said:
I don't even think the writing outside of Burnt Face Christ Man is any good. The conflict is very generic good vs bad and regardless of who you side with the other party just sort of trots along with no complaint. The companions are dull as well and the side content is universally drab and uninteresting. The other DLCs are way better I don't know how anyone can unironically say Dead Money or Lonesome Road are worse.
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I liked a few of the lesser things like the Survivalist storyline you can uncover and that one chick's thing with Daniel covering up her husband's death and you confronting her on it. Dead Money is imo the best DLC as a whole, even if it makes or breaks some builds, while from my experience most people who say Lonesome Road is bad are people who sperg out about it giving the Courier a "canon" backstory even though you are given numerous options to refute it and flat out tell Ulysses he has the wrong person.
 
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Mega Black said:
I don't even think the writing outside of Burnt Face Christ Man is any good. The conflict is very generic good vs bad and regardless of who you side with the other party just sort of trots along with no complaint. The companions are dull as well and the side content is universally drab and uninteresting. The other DLCs are way better I don't know how anyone can unironically say Dead Money or Lonesome Road are worse.
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I dislike Lonesome Road because the entire game is just Ulysses bitching at you while imposing a backstory upon what used to be a blank canvas.

His arguments don't even make sense. The Divide community was apparently different the NCR in that it was trying to be different than the Old world while using the Prewar US flag as their symbol, the definition of aping the old world.

What was so different in the Divide from what was previously presented? It apparently wasn't a democracy like the NCR, an autocracy/Monarchy like Caeser's Legion, an Order like the Brotherhood, a tribal society like the White Legs, or a religious community like the New Canaanites since all these different factions and peoples were explored by Ulysses and written off as dead ends. So what, Anarchy, Communism, a Hunter Gatherer society? Because there aren't that many forms of government left after Ulysses dismissed so many as "old world dead ends".
 
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Saturnalia-1918 said:
I dislike Lonesome Road because the entire game is just Ulysses bitching at you while imposing a backstory upon what used to be a blank canvas.

His arguments don't even make sense. The Divide community was apparently different the NCR in that it was trying to be different than the Old world while using the Prewar US flag as their symbol, the definition of aping the old world.

What was so different in the Divide from what was previously presented? It apparently wasn't a democracy like the NCR, an autocracy/Monarchy like Caeser's Legion, an Order like the Brotherhood, a tribal society like the White Legs, or a religious community like the New Canaanites since all these different factions and peoples were explored by Ulysses and written off as dead ends. So what, Anarchy, Communism, a Hunter Gatherer society? Because there aren't that many forms of government left after Ulysses dismissed so many as "old world dead ends".
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Chris' mouthpiece is the only part of it I don't like but even then I enjoyed the general environments of the DLC and the new armors, the factionless Veteran Ranger armor especially.
 
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Mysterious Autist XX said:
I always just go with Joshua for killing the White Legs at the end but talking him into letting the Chief having an honorable death by letting him fight back, feels like a better fuck you to Daniel and let's me enjoy chilling with one of my favorite characters in the series for a bit.
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If you have Sneering Imperialist you get to tell Graham to put a bullet in General Gobbledygook over there. And yeah, the Riot Gear based armors are all badass. The Survivalist's too.
Mega Black said:
The other DLCs are way better I don't know how anyone can unironically say Dead Money or Lonesome Road are worse.
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Dead Money has mechanics issues that exist solely to dick over players and Lonesome Road has Ulysses, who is hit or miss.

Like, the Ghost People are fine and all, but... they're just sort of there, a bug means they have 10 perception thanks to 0 equaling 10 in the engine code, and their special gimmick of resurrection disappears after a conversation with the first companion you get. The clouds are fine as a neat feature, but the game of "Hunt the radio" you play so often really drags things down.
Saturnalia-1918 said:
I dislike Lonesome Road because the entire game is just Ulysses bitching at you while imposing a backstory upon what used to be a blank canvas.
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The Courier isn't that much of a blank canvas. With Lady Killer you were in Montana 17 years ago, according to dialogue with the Lonesome Drifter.
 
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Mysterious Autist XX said:
I liked a few of the lesser things like the Survivalist storyline you can uncover and that one chick's thing with Daniel covering up her husband's death and you confronting her on it. Dead Money is imo the best DLC as a whole, even if it makes or breaks some builds, while from my experience most people who say Lonesome Road is bad are people who sperg out about it giving the Courier a "canon" backstory even though you are given numerous options to refute it and flat out tell Ulysses he has the wrong person.
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if you specced into unarmed like you should, dead money is a blast if you're careful, observant, and F5 + F9 happy
Snekposter said:
If you have Sneering Imperialist you get to tell Graham to put a bullet in General Gobbledygook over there. And yeah, the Riot Gear based armors are all badass. The Survivalist's too.

Dead Money has mechanics issues that exist solely to dick over players and Lonesome Road has Ulysses, who is hit or miss.

Like, the Ghost People are fine and all, but... they're just sort of there, a bug means they have 10 perception thanks to 0 equaling 10 in the engine code, and their special gimmick of resurrection disappears after a conversation with the first companion you get. The clouds are fine as a neat feature, but the game of "Hunt the radio" you play so often really drags things down.

The Courier isn't that much of a blank canvas. With Lady Killer you were in Montana 17 years ago, according to dialogue with the Lonesome Drifter.
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Reinforced leather or bust.
 
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God of Nothing said:
Reinforced leather or bust.
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Yeah, that's good shit, especially with gecko backing. More HP, more DT, and resistance to fire, poison, and rads. The Reinforced Sierra Madre Armor is still the absolute king of light armor though. Seriously, its ridiculous how good that shit is. More DT and HP than combat armor but 8 pounds less. Does need Jury Rigging though, unlike Reinforced Leather.
 
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Snekposter said:
Yeah, that's good shit, especially with gecko backing. More HP, more DT, and resistance to fire, poison, and rads. The Reinforced Sierra Madre Armor is still the absolute king of light armor though. Seriously, its ridiculous how good that shit is. More DT and HP than combat armor but 8 pounds less. Does need Jury Rigging though, unlike Reinforced Leather.
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I mean, it has a lot of good shit, but I'm more into it for the aesthetics. It feels really good finally getting it gecko-backed after playing through with it for most of the game. Makes you feel like it really is your armor, and you've improved it more than anyone else could. All it's really missing is deathclaw skin for superior penetration resistance.
 
Snekposter said:
Like, the Ghost People are fine and all, but... they're just sort of there, a bug means they have 10 perception thanks to 0 equaling 10 in the engine code, and their special gimmick of resurrection disappears after a conversation with the first companion you get. The clouds are fine as a neat feature, but the game of "Hunt the radio" you play so often really drags things down.
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You don't even need the conversation. Just chop their limbs off with the knife spear after they go down. It's not hard. There's never enough of them that they get up before you get to all of them with the spear.
 
God of Nothing said:
I mean, it has a lot of good shit, but I'm more into it for the aesthetics. It feels really good finally getting it gecko-backed after playing through with it for most of the game. Makes you feel like it really is your armor, and you've improved it more than anyone else could. All it's really missing is deathclaw skin for superior penetration resistance.
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I got a mod that ditches the green gecko hide for basic gecko. Yeah, its more than a bit cheaty, but fuck it. I'm not trudging all the way to Zion just to put some gecko hides in my armor.
Friendly Primarina said:
You don't even need the conversation. Just chop their limbs off with the knife spear after they go down. It's not hard. There's never enough of them that they get up before you get to all of them with the spear.
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Well, yeah. I mean, it would be a neat gimmick if it wasn't so easy to bypass is what I'm saying. Hell, if you feel like wasting the ammo a shot from the Police Pistol to the head will do it nine times out of ten.
God of Nothing said:
I was straight up turning their heads into paste with my bare hands.
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Look man, break President Kimball in two with your bare hands and then get back to me, okay?
 
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Tactical as fuck, although the Atomic-valence Tri-Radii Oscillator ruins the aesthetic.
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I like to think it adds a certain quality. Also, acts as a distraction for my enemies.

Think about it. This random waster comes up to you armed to the teeth, and for some insane reason, he has a triple halo around his head. You draw, but this motherfucker has three halos around his head. He shoots your buddies dead in seconds. You manage one shot but it bounces off his helmet: unknown to you, it mitigated the kinetic force of your bullet to the point it couldn't even dent the combat helmet.
 
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I like to think it adds a certain quality. Also, acts as a distraction for my enemies.

Think about it. This random waster comes up to you armed to the teeth, and for some insane reason, he has a triple halo around his head. You draw, but this motherfucker has three halos around his head. He shoots your buddies dead in seconds. You manage one shot but it bounces off his helmet: unknown to you, it mitigated the kinetic force of your bullet to the point it couldn't even dent the combat helmet.
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Yeah, but you're a glowing-in-the-dark Legion nigger thanks to it.
 
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