Fallout series

Mary the Goldsmith said:
Yeah Fallout 4 suffered greatly from not being able to be Evil, or at least not be the goody two shoes that helps everyone on his path, sure you can just ignore the Minutemen questlines, but its clear the devs wanted you to join them, they are the one faction you can not completely wipe out of the game.
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Actually, BoS is the most evil faction in FO4. Final mission is just nuking the entire Institute without activating the escape's protocol.
Minutemen ending is optional but the Railroad is a must.
Mary the Goldsmith said:
I liked the second part but it only made the fact that you have to clear the entire park solo even dumber, why can't I take a gang with me and clear the park I want to assign to them?
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Yeah, that's just Bethesda's writing at its finest. I can't believe how Far Harbor is more interesting.
 
Prophetic Spirit said:
Actually, BoS is the most evil faction in FO4. Final mission is just nuking the entire Institute without activating the escape's protocol.
Minutemen ending is optional but the Railroad is a must.
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You can issue the evacuation order as the Brotherhood too, and they don't turn on you afterwards, ironically I did not trigger the evacuation ending on a playtrough where I sided with the Minutemen, and I've never done the Railroad questline, but I do know that if you don't trigger the Evacuation order as the Minutemen the Railroad will turn hostile against you, assuming they are still alive by this point, which fucked up my play trough where I was doing the "Keep all 3 factions alive Ending"
 
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Prophetic Spirit said:
Actually, BoS is the most evil faction in FO4. Final mission is just nuking the entire Institute without activating the escape's protocol.
Minutemen ending is optional but the Railroad is a must.
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I mean yeah true but its clear Bethesda wants them to be seen as the good guys which is why I wouldn't count them as an "evil" faction even if they are at this point basically becoming the Enclave 2.0 in 4.
 
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blablabla said:
fuck me the dlc for this game are expensive, what the fuck bethesda
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Yeah that's why I said it isn't worth it unless you get the GOTY edition

EDIT: also thinking about it a lot of the settlement shit I can't even tell if it actually did anything or if it was just from the 30 gigs of mods I had installed whenever I played it.
 
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Mary the Goldsmith said:
I decided to finally play the Nuka World story, since I normally just murder all the raiders, and just like with the Minutemen, I'm the Overboss yet I get bossed around by my second in command, but more importantly Cage tells you that the gangs are growing restless due to spending a whole year just shitting themselves and doing nothing, so naturally the first part of the story involves you singlehandedly clearing the park and distributing the land among the gangs, and not a single one of this supposed "restless gangs" even suggests going with you to clear the park, fucking lazy ass niggers. You should at least have the option of taking one of the gangs with you to storm the parks.
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Nuka World is Bethesda's awful writing at it's worst. Like I said before, none of the gangs are even remotely close to likeable or even all that interesting because they fall into such big cliches like the group full of sadistic whores acting like Harley Quinn (Disciples), or just flat out retarded concepts like the furry gang (The Pack) that can't be taken seriously or the theater kid gang (Operators) that tries to act tough and menacing. Only reason to even own Nuka-World is for the weapons and Nuka Colas it added to the game.
 
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Ghost of Wesley Willis said:
Nuka World is Bethesda's awful writing at it's worst. Like I said before, none of the gangs are even remotely close to likeable or even all that interesting because they fall into such big cliches like the group full of sadistic whores acting like Harley Quinn (Disciples), or just flat out retarded concepts like the furry gang (The Pack) that can't be taken seriously or the theater kid gang (Operators) that tries to act tough and menacing. Only reason to even own Nuka-World is for the weapons and Nuka Colas it added to the game.
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I kinda like the Operators as I thought they where a mix between 30s Gangsters and a Greaser gang (mainly due to their haircuts), but like you said there is nothing likable about them, they are really under developed. The awful writing is why I have consistently murdered them all on every playtrough until now
 
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Mary the Goldsmith said:
I kinda like the Operators as I thought they where a mix between 30s Gangsters and a Greaser gang (mainly due to their haircuts), but like you said there is nothing likable about them, they are really under developed. The awful writing is why I have consistently murdered them all on every playtrough until now
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The factions could've been a lot more fleshed out and better written if there was a lot more focus on what they were capable of instead of showing just how funny and quirky they all are. Compare them to the fiends in Fallout New Vegas. Fiends were so loosely organized but yet so much more terrifying to deal with. They were outlaws, freaks, and outcasts living on the fringes of society. When they weren't assaulting NCR positions, robbing wastelanders, or raping and murdering them in many instances, they were too busy overdosing on chems. You saw just how vicious they were capable of being. No need to have quirky characters or aesthetics. Fallout 3 raiders felt a lot more fleshed out, even Fallout 4's raiders felt far more fleshed out.
 
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Friendly Primarina said:
Man, I sure am glad I was able to complete this NV playthrough with absolutely no loose e-
"Armed with a wide array of... "
Goddamn it. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
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This is why you just wipe the li'l bastids out when you're grabbing the copy of Lying, Congressional Style in one of the cells.
 
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Friendly Primarina said:
Great, but that slide refers to the Vault 19 Powder Gangers (ridiculous name). And I *always" forget Vault 19.
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Ohhhhhhh my mistake. Yeah, I forget them a lot too. And if I do remember, it's usually right before I go to Hoover Dam, when the quest is entirely pointless, so I just massacre the lot of them.
 
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How tf are those niggas even doing anything considering there's deathclaws right outside of their vault, I've had them chase me all the way to their entrance. I kill them all every playthrough just out of spite, and by every playthrough, I mean only 5% of the time cause I keep forgetting they exist.
 
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I never played Fallout before apart from a few hours on F4 at a friends house after he passed out drunk and I was bored. Not enough to get into it. Well, some kind soul in the giveaway thread gifted me New Vegas recently, so I started playing it. Completely hooked. Been a couple of weeks and I'm to about 60 hours playtime now.

Mentioned it to an IRL friend and he said "Oh, you sided with Caesar right, because you're a fucking Nazi?" Lucky I have friends that can joke about that shit. I did not side with Caesar, but not through any personal choice.

So what happened was I got in some skirmish with Legion folks early on (think I had picked up some NCR armour which set them off) and as they were being KoS with me I responded in kind, not realising the armour triggered them (was explained to me by the game later).

So eventually, I get to the mission where Caesar asks for your presence. I figured what the hell, let's see if I can go see him. Got near the camp and started getting the old KoS treeatment again. By this time I knew the uniform was part of it, so I changed into Legion gear and went back, they chilled out, said come with me.

Now, my mistake here was bringing followers with me. I got stripped of my weapons at the gate, all that jazz, and went to walk up to the hut on the top of the hill with Caesar in. Everyone was cool with me, but my followers would attack certain things (the dogs could tell I was Villified even if the humans couldn't (just like real life, I love my dog) and would start heading to me and get rekt by followers. I figured whatever, had done some reading on the situation and from what I understood, I just needed to get an audience with Ceaser and all would be forgiven.

Walked into the hut, immediately like 10 Legion dudes just aggro on me (I think I was hit with reputation loss even more from my followers on the way up, got a message about it). I figure what the fuck, I'll kill these boys then me and Caesar will talk. I got locked into a Save state cos the first time it happened I wasn't expecting it and they rekt me. So when I reloaded, I went all out. I murdered the entire village. Pulled out rocket launchers etc and just obliterated them. Turns out that during that battle, I killed Caesar too. I never heard him speak a single word. So that was decided for me.

Later on, had to go back to put the platinum chip in some bunker in the camp. Opened the door to where it needed to go, and there were a few soldiers left in there that hadn't been wiped out. As soon as I open the door, one turns to me and says "The mark of Caesar protects you!" Then immediately starts attacking me, lul. I killed them all.

I also killed Benny when given the chance, fuck that cracker.
 
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Korpon said:
How tf are those niggas even doing anything considering there's deathclaws right outside of their vault, I've had them chase me all the way to their entrance. I kill them all every playthrough just out of spite, and by every playthrough, I mean only 5% of the time cause I keep forgetting they exist.
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Their success postgame should really be partly contingent on whether you wiped out the deathclaw nest at the quarry, but like I said, the whole area has the feeling of something that was almost dummied out.
 
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