Fallout series

The fact this article was on Vanity Fair should tell you everything you need to know about it.
This show will be as faithful to the lore and sentiment of Fallout as ghoul carcass resting over brahmin dung. It's just another IP being demoralized. I wouldn't be surprised if Liberty Prime is rewired to utter 'Death to America.'
 
A collection of quotes from the article. I don't feel so good.
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If they can't even take 5 minutes to go over to the wiki to see if there was already an established LA settlement in the older games(much like with Fallout 4 and Jet), then this is DOA
I don't even care, the first Fallout movie in the 90s was cancelled for a reason: It would have been boring. This will be even worse, so I am looking forward to mocking it along with everybody else as I happily consider this movie, Brotherhood of Steel(6th gen console shooter) and 76 to be 100% non-canon
 
You know what, fuck it. Let's just go over each one, just because I hate myself:

Going from top to bottom

1) Last of Us didn't give you a "rich opportunity to comment" on anything, all you did was race swap characters, turn others into faggots and then made them kiss. It's even worse than the actual games(which are more or less interactive movies already) and that by itself kills any potential this ever had

2) Has this faggot ever played a Fallout game before? Trick question, of course not. As someone already said, Fallout was always about exploring human nature and less about actual events and politics within the game world that could be connected to ours. Even Fallout 4 got that right by exploring trans humanism with The Synths and how we would react to such an invention, asking questions like "What REALLY makes a sentient being". This faggot is just going to shoehorn modern day politics into this and you know it.

3) Brotherhood was never about "Patriotism" you daft cunt, their ancestors and founding members literally had a mutiny with the US government right before the bombs and started a xenophobic tech hoarding order. They don't fly the stars and stripes, they fly their own banner and consider the rest of the wasteland to be a danger to themselves. Hell, one faction that talked about opening it's doors were literally send on a suicide mission in Tactics and then and only then started to act anything remotely like the pre war military. Spoiler: They were basically heavily armed raiders more than anything, and didn't give two shits about America. This doesn't even describe Bethesda's take on The Brotherhood, who are not patriots in any way and only serve themselves and their cause. Maybe this retard missed that in F3 they use The Pentagon as a base not because they were the remnants of the US army(that would be The Enclave) but because it made a good, easily defended base.

4) Do I need to comment on this one? He's talking about Bethesda Feral Ghouls, which pretty much are cannon fodder mindless zombies and those that aren't are just shoehorns for pre war humans/magic radioactive creatures that survived in an environment a good writer would not have any living beings in the first place/stand in for da racism like Tenpenny ghouls. Now, in Tactics they basically were second hand citizen cannon fodder troops if they were recruited into The Brotherhood in Quincy mission, but I heavily doubt this moron even knows this game exists. Ghouls in Fallout 1 and 2 were nothing like this btw, they were more or less another race entirely and mostly kept to themselves, there was never any instance of "cannon fodder" ghouls in the original games except for maybe a few shambling ferals that acted as means of introducing Necropolis as a dangerous place to lower level characters.

5) So smart ghouls have a different face phenotype from others? Care to apply this logic to other races? Again, I think he compares Ferals and "normal" ghouls because most ghouls in Bethesda games are generic zombies. I just want to see what this imbecile thinks of Harold if he only has his face pictures to go off of.


The prognosis is in: It's lupus. Terminal, we will need to amputate.
Reminds me of that interview with the VA of the female protagonist from Fallout 4 and how that dipshit said her character was the first playable female protagonist in any Fallout game, ignoring that you could play as a woman in literally every single title in the franchise.
 
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I was kind of hoping this was silently cancelled or something. Got zero hope this is going to be worth watching in any way. Can't wait for the entire season to just be about ghouls and racism and allegories and basically nothing else. I never liked Ghouls being treated as a separate race or used as a stand-in for racism. Like they're not even a race, they're just humans with severe burns and a long lifespan.
 
While technically not a troon, Lily is pretty close to how most of them look, sound, and has a similar level of mental well-being.

The difference is Lily is endearing.
You don't talk shit about stealth grandma.

I talk shit about New Vegas being proto-pozzed and kinda overrated all the time. But I never talk shit about stealth grandma.
>from the writer of Captain Marvel and Tomb Raider 2018 and from the co-creator of Westworld 2016
I want Total Hollywood Death to happen
Looks like it stars a brown woman too. You can't make this shit up.
 
Through some act of social piracy I don't understand, troons have adopted New Vegas as one of their flagship games. It's got some openly gay characters in it, and some perks that let you play as gay (or bi, if you take both of them), but troonery is, as far as I can tell, virtually nonexistent. Who knows.
My guess is that it’s because a bunch of Breadtubers with a bunch of troons in their audience like hbomberguy have made videos praising FNV, which combined with the fact that the game is an RPG (and a fairly deep one at that) has caused the fanbase to become a radioactive waste (heh) of HRT, anime, and dilators.
 
I kind of promised I would distance myself from the eternal and deliberate circle of disappointment with adaptations that my rage was a part of, but fuck it, Fallout is close to my heart so I will break that promise for a little bit: Jesus that looks bad. I will ignore the blatant disregard for stablished lore, as it is par for the course for both Amazon's adaptations and Bethesda's anythings and not everything has to be 100% faithful to be enjoyable so I will instead focus on what's bugging me the most: with those pictures alone I already know they don't care or even know the very basics of what makes Fallout click, based on the overall look and the technology used alone.
If you asked somebody with a passing knowledge of Fallout and a basic grasp of visual design, they'd tell you that the two main components of Fallout's aesthetics are advanced technology but with a vintage look (since the transistor was never invented) and 50's Americana. Yes, there's also a strong component of the usual post-apocalyptic Mad Max-esque elements, but they are secondary to the other two and don't really work by themselves. So, let's look at this frame:
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First, I wouldn't know this was from fallout and not from a generic SyFy movie of the week if I hadn't read the title of the article. Even ignoring the egregious Boeing-like plane awkwardly copypasted in there for good measure that's is completely out of place in this universe, lore and aesthetic-wise, the whole thing screams "digital" at the top of it's lungs, even more than any other show I've seen recently. I know using actual film nowadays is verboten unless you are Tarantino or something, but there are cheap and easy ways to make things look more analogic and not like the whole thing was shot with a fucking iPhone. The laziest fan film knows this and tries to use a filter or something. Even the lighting of this scene looks AI made, and I bet ten bucks this show will be 95% filmed against one of those hellish Virtual Production LED screens and the other 5% are cheap props that are modern day trash from the dollar store stapled together. I know it sounds like hard work, but to make Fallout look like fallout, you have to make an effort to look as analogic as possible.
I don't like Fallout 3 much (but I don't hate it either), but even Bethesda knew this very simple aspect of fallout's identity and tried hard to make those two elements shine, even if a 3D videogame in a engine like theirs was the most digital-looking thing ever; they accomplished this by having really good visual, sound, and user interface design with a very heavy emphasis on making the whole thing feel modern and outdated at the same time. It's not coincidence that the main menu of Fallout 3 looks like a slideshow and not like any other contemporary videogames or making the cumbersome but useful Pip-boy so prevalent. Having somebody as great as Adam Adamowicz (RIP) as a concept artist didn't hurt either.
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If you can't even be arsed to think for a minute about how the very look and production of your show betrays the basic essence of the thing you are adapting then I have not a sliver of faith you are willing or able to put effort anywhere else. This lack of introspection or creative drive is simply embarrassing, even more so for people who get paid ridiculous figures from one of the biggest companies in the world. Even the laziest cosplayer tries a bit harder than this.
Fucking hell, if you don't believe me, the last photo of the article is a Kodak picture of the actress and Jonah Nolan, the most analogic thing you can get your hands on nowadays, and the costume looks way more fallout-y than any of the other pictures just because it doesn't have 10 layers of digital fuckery over it and a background of pure visual noise:
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Photoshop that fuckin Nolan into a supermutant or ghoul, add some burn to the paper and some white spots and you have a much better promotional material that any of the overproduced soulless pictures you seemed so proud of.

On more fanboyish complains, that this is at least partially set on LA but not on the Boneyard and that the ghoul character is creatively named "The Ghoul", which in this context is as stupid as calling the MC "the woman" makes me genuinely sad. At this point only a miracle would make me watch this, I know enough about how they are handling this to realize that it's not for me, and the smart thing for me to do is to ignore it from this point onwards, and don't even comment on it or get mad, as now I know that purposely making fans angry and loud is part of the current business model, so I will do my part to break the cycle and just act like it doesn't exist and move into new things so those dickheads can ruin those things in the future too.
Thanks for attending my TED talk, and remember that finding a good adaptation in this day and age is almost hopeless. Finding it though, that's not the hard part. It's letting go.
 
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Holy fuck it's worse than I thought. They are straight up going to attack everything that isn't current year establishment/politically-approved sentiment.

The Brotherhood is a mutated version of patriotism, religion, loyalty, and fraternity
- The Brotherhood does not understand, and most don't even know, about the United States of America. What mutated patriotism? Are they seriously going to link the Brotherhood of Steel to MAGA republicans? Fuck you.
- The Brotherhood does not practice any particular religion.
- How is it 'mutated' loyalty/fraternity? Do you mean their fanaticism towards their Elder? Debatable, as in every game sans F4 & 76 there has always been dissension and discord of varying degrees towards the Elder, and the show seems specially focused on F4/76.

There's plenty of issues one can explore with the BoS, none of them being what Nolan described.

Goggins is smarter than the average ghoul, so therefore he "NATURALLY" is less mutated and ghoulish.
Because radiation respects (or fears) redditor snark and Joss Whedon-esque one liners this show is inevitably going to deliver that it spares living organisms from it's crippling effects. Why make him a ghoul at that point? At least make him some sort of half-breed or something slightly more creative than "smart people can't be ugly".
Intelligence, specially in Fallout, comes from experience, which comes from age. Show him scarred, battered, ugly; it means he's been involved in deep shit and survived. The proof of his brains lying the blemishes the wasteland left on his rotting flesh.
Raul Tejada is a smart ghoul, and he admits he's hideous to the eye.
He also shits all over Nolan's concept, to the point I predict The Ghoul is an idealized self-insert.


Everything else in those excerpts reads like "Guys we need the government, without them, we descend into chaos!" apologist propaganda. A true Fallout show can have real-life politics injected, but it would have the balls to say "Our current world governments are 1 mention of gamergate away from being as evil and retarded as this parody of pre-war America/China, and look how that works out for our cast."
Can't have that. Obey, smooth-skin, obey!

Nolan doesn't know nor care about Fallout lore. He's there to make goyslop and get paid.
There will be no pulp-influence/violence/crudeness/crass/tone like in the original games.
No dark comedy elements.
No edge.
No balls.
No nods towards Fallout's message that nuclear armageddon is not the end of the world, but just another chapter in mankind's history... and that despite everything, life moves on.
Just sanitized, sterile, inoffensive slop for neoliberal soy consumption.


I am wearing such a huge top hat right now...
 
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We are about to live in a timeline where Fallout Frontier isn't the worst written piece of Fallout media
It's time to apologize
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Frontier was cringe kino, it was entertaining even if it was at the expense of itself. Even The Frontier understood the source material better as well, even with the space station Enclave and sex lizards and the rest. This will just be pure, soulless Amazon/Netflix slop.
This is what people will soon feel nostalgic for:
 
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This part is so out there it fits with the original Fallout 1/2 vibe and vision of Pulp and Neo-Noir. The kind of shit you'd see in 40s-50s adult comics.
Was it dumb? Sure. Did it fit with NV's semi-grounded take? Nope.
But fuck if it wasn't at least an attempt to be unique and true to the soul of Black Isle's fallout irreverence. The same game where you can join the mob, become a famous sex god & world class prizefighter, save the world from a shadow government's Bond-type evil plan, and experience dozens of nerd references before quoting references got lame.
 
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