Fallout series

[Mysterious Autist XX]

Practical but boring. Too much like the NCR. I need to hear what he has to say one last time before I end him as the greater man.

Understandable, I didn't even want to give him the satisfaction of seeing me face to face. I just wanted him over and then to deliver a message to all "WE DO NOT REPEAT THE HISTORY OF THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE".

 

[God of Nothing]

Understandable, I didn't even want to give him the satisfaction of seeing me face to face. I just wanted him over and then to deliver a message to all "WE DO NOT REPEAT THE HISTORY OF THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE".

Unless you believe in an afterlife, you technically gave him the peace of mind that his plan would work. He probably died a bit anxious, but that's not too bad. Better he knows how ill he compares.

 

[Mysterious Autist XX]

Unless you believe in an afterlife, you technically gave him the peace of mind that his plan would work. He probably died a bit anxious, but that's not too bad. Better he knows how ill he compares.

Fuck I didn't think about that to be honest.

 

[God of Nothing]

Fuck I didn't think about that to be honest.

i totally have 10 INT in real life too

 

[TheHarbinger]

Ulysses was cut because they ran out of time for it....supposedly a few NPCs were going to become faction companions.

Part of the reason they were cut was because of space on the DVDs for the 360 version. The dialog and music would have needed to have been compressed to extreme levels to be even potentially be able to fit in another companion or two. A lot of the cut content was because the voice acting lines were devouring disc space. The DLC had size limitations as well.

When you look at all the constraints that Obsidian had on them it is amazing that New Vegas was still able to be as good or even great as it was.

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

Ulysses was cut because they ran out of time for it. Avellone wrote a 100 page document or something on him and there was no time to get all his dialogue translated for all the languages nor implement him in any way. He was supposed to be met in Wolfhorn Ranch, standing over a grave, and the last remnant of that idea is that in some languages, Wolfhorn Ranch is actually called "Ulysses Ranch".
Also, while Ulysses wasn't going to be found at The Fort, supposedly a few NPCs were going to become faction companions: Vulpes for Legion, Victor for House and Benny for Independent Vegas. The idea for every faction having it's own companions must have been scrapped early since at some point, you could befriend Benny and even have him help you out for some reason. I am guessing that dates back to when Followers of the Apocalypse were going to be a bigger faction and more or less be the ones guiding you thru the Independent path instead of Yes Man.

Huh. Well that sounds alot better than whatever i had read. Wonder if it was made around the same time when they planned on letting you romance companions. (Getting drunkly married to cass having the king officiating the wedding is the one i remember being talked about)

 

[30+GameOvers]

When you look at all the constraints that Obsidian had on them it is amazing that New Vegas was still able to be as good or even great as it was.

PS3 version was supposedly not even playable in 2 digit frame rates until the last two weeks, by some black voodoo magic from one of the developers. I've seen leaked TGS2010 footage and I believe it, despite the game being more or less identical content wise to the final 1.0 release it felt like a pre-alpha quality wise: Weird LOD issues, constant crashes, tanking frame rate(true to the rumor), weird physics with NPCs often sinking into the ground, issue where you could see thru walls, all sorts of shit. I would link the video here, but unfortunately it's been taken down, another casualty of the discord tranny hoarder circle among game collectors wanting to feel special for owning that little piece of Fallout history.
To this day, every version of the game on all consoles runs a check the moment you leave Doc Mitchell's house for the first time: If the game detects PS3 software it permanently disables certain lighting because even that's too much for the console. Some areas like The Tops also have additional walls put in to mask constant loading and deloading not present on other consoles, it is a disaster.
Less said about DLC memory issues the better, there were so many little tidbits cut from the main game after launch so that DLCs could even work as they didn't account for that when developing the game, all the memory was used up with the vanilla content and they had to scramble to cut out enough to add new scripts, items and locations. Triangle City has a good series of videos where he goes more in depth on this.

 

[Mysterious Autist XX]

i totally have 10 INT in real life too

No int, only luck.

 

[Lone Star]

This recent talk of cut content really makes me bummed at how tight the development cycle had to be. Just imagine if New Vegas had another half a year or more to put stuff in and give the game a polish.

 

[30+GameOvers]

This recent talk of cut content really makes me bummed at how tight the development cycle had to be. Just imagine if New Vegas had another half a year or more to put stuff in and give the game a polish.

Triangle City channel not only talks about the cut content, but has exclusive interview with the devs and goes over why the content was cut. When you look at the big picture, it really comes down to designing a CRPG that later had to be cut down to run on a fucking PS3...made in Gamebryo. It's a miracle it released at all.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

then why's the brotherhood still kicking

they aren't? they've wiped out in the west and from what we know of fallout 4 they fucked up hard in dc and went all in on boston.

: Vulpes for Legion, Victor for House and Benny for Independent Vegas.

i swear everything i hear about NV makes me wish someone like say Matthew Perry was like "i'm giving you all my money and making myself a slave to bethesda so you niggers can get an extra year or two"

it really comes down to designing a CRPG that later had to be cut down to run on a fucking PS3...made in Gamebryo.

honestly hearing that its clear we're lucky the game exists. Gamergate destroyed any shot of a good game coming out on the 8th gen not made by the japs.

 

[Lone Star]

Triangle City channel not only talks about the cut content, but has exclusive interview with the devs and goes over why the content was cut. When you look at the big picture, it really comes down to designing a CRPG that later had to be cut down to run on a fucking PS3...made in Gamebryo. It's a miracle it released at all.

I mean I get it. I just like to dream a bit, that's all. The post-game is something I really wish we got to see, even if it wasn't too terribly much content.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

from what we know of fallout 4 they fucked up hard in dc and went all in on boston.

What? Where do they state that they lost DC or left? as far as the conversations go (I'll admit I didn't read every single terminal) They are de facto in control of DC.

On topic: It would be funny if they sort of incorporated the glithces as a visuak gag, like having a background actor randomly T-posing, but sadly thats not going to happen, but hey my shitty third world internet will probably help simulate the crashing.

 

[Agent of Misinformation]

Caesar's Legion is an interesting concept for the wasteland. The issue, I believe, is that the legion barely correlates with Rome. As a matter of fact, the NCR's state in the 2080s would be similar to the late Roman Republic. Edward Sallow (Caesar) is instead the Alexander the Great of his time. Both men had empires that expanded into foreign lands. Sallow goes from the Mojave waste to Dog Town (Denver), while Alexander stretches from North Macedonia to Persia. Both would die of some disease in due time (Caesar's Cancer and Alexander's 2-week fever). The player can induce death for Caesar, while historians speculated that Alexander was assassinated by his men.
Both figures were students of philosophy, while their soldiers and inner circle craved power. While Lanius has greater intelligence and physical prowess than Sallow, other groups within the Legion would more than likely claim themselves as the true successor of Caesar. The costly war in the Mojave over the Hoover Dam would fracture the Legion into smaller nations, like that of Alexander the Great. My credentials as a historian are sparse, but interestingly, there is a historical coincidence between real-life lore and New Vegas lore.

 

[God of Nothing]

Caesar's Legion is an interesting concept for the wasteland. The issue, I believe, is that the legion barely correlates with Rome

that's the point
people take caesar's legion supposed to be rome too seriously
caesar himself says it's little more than a roving band of raiders in its current state

 

[TheHarbinger]

caesar himself says it's little more than a roving band of raiders in its current state

Essentially all New Vegas and many Fallout factions are just organized raiders and tribal clans. Mr. House recruited raiders and tribes and civilized them enough to run his casinos and other businesses on the Strip but they still revert to their old ways and cannot let go the past (the theme of New Vegas). The NCR came from people from the Khans and Vault 15 joining together and slowly building their numbers up and establishing cities and towns. The Legion is constantly absorbing tribes and raider groups and trying to reprogram them into Legion doctrines and behaviors but the still retain that independent raider mentality.

New Vegas is tribal warfare. Just with plasma guns and laser rifles. War never changes.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Cross over from the recent A&N thread: https://archive.is/jAcwX
Basically, here is your average Fallout 4 fan

If you're wondering who the target audience for the new Amazon show is, here you go.

 

[Snekposter]

Unless you believe in an afterlife, you technically gave him the peace of mind that his plan would work. He probably died a bit anxious, but that's not too bad. Better he knows how ill he compares.

I like to find his logs and then throw his own words back at him and demonstrate that he learned absolutely nothing on his journeys.
"All the roads you walked lead you back here, to repeat the same mistakes of the past you accuse me of."

that's the point
people take caesar's legion supposed to be rome too seriously
caesar himself says it's little more than a roving band of raiders in its current state

Yep. Caesar knows damn well that he's only Caesar by name, and he's hoping that by crossing the Colorado and taking New Vegas he can have his Rome and be Caesar.

The costly war in the Mojave over the Hoover Dam would fracture the Legion into smaller nations, like that of Alexander the Great. My credentials as a historian are sparse, but interestingly, there is a historical coincidence between real-life lore and New Vegas lore.

Counterargument: Rome following Caesar's assassination which lead to an immediate competition among his immediate successors to fill the power vacuum, a rebellion by the Senate, and after less than a decade of relative stability under the Second Triumvirate Rome the expulsion of Lepidus from it and Rome getting split into two between Antony and Octavian, with those two cementing power in their respective areas of control before having it out for the whole big thing.

If the Legion wins, then Caesar is probably still alive thanks to the Courier since him winding up dead in the surgery either by accident or not will force you out of the Legion questline unless you persuade Lucius you didn't cock it up on purpose, and the Courier is almost certainly his appointed successor given the minted coin in your honor following the conquest.

If the Legion doesn't win, Caesar is either dead by the Courier's hand or shortly afterwards to his tumor, and someone needs to get the blame for the second defeat, and its most likely going to be Caesar if Lanius is alive (since Lucius and Vulpes aren't dumb enough to blame a still-breathing Lanius, and Caesar is the only common thread between the first and second defeats) or Lanius if the Courier killed him at the end. Either way, you're looking at a showdown between Lucius and Vulpes at minimum and a possible three-way between Lucius, Lanius, and Vulpes.

Unless of course the Courier commenced TLD on Fortification Hill in which case its going to be a total free-for-all over Arizona that will probably resemble the breakup of Yugoslavia more than it would the Diadochi Wars as a result of the Legion's tribal nature and scorched earth approach to campaigning. Despite Caesar's claims to the contrary many Legionaries still hold their older tribal loyalties. Canyon Runner at Cottonwood Cove boasts of having Blackfoot blood, and despite having what is almost certainly a new name Antony is very much a Hangdog still and hates and resents the Legion for what it did to his tribe's beloved creatures. Those two can't be the only ones holding on.

 

[Arcade Gannon]

the Courier is almost certainly his appointed successor given the minted coin in your honor following the conquest.

That coin gets minted in every version of the Legion ending, even if the Courier is a woman and Lanius is the new Caesar. Anyway, I think it would be hard for the Legionaries to accept a profligate as their new leader.

 

[God of Nothing]

That coin gets minted in every version of the Legion ending, even if the Courier is a woman and Lanius is the new Caesar. Anyway, I think it would be hard for the Legionaries to accept a profligate as their new leader.

caesar's word is law
and who's going to stop a gigachad courier that can bare-knuckle brawl deathclaws?