Fallout series

People talk about "safe horny."

More people need to talk about "safe edgy."
One thing distinctly unique in Fallout 3 was being able to sell children as slaves.
that was actually hardcore and super edgy

Edge these days? There's a roving gang of sex equal raiders! But GET THIS they're assholes!
Nooooooooooooo.

Never mind that a post-apocalypse would see a return to a level of sex social differences so drastically different we forget it just barely changed within the span of several decades (this is actually something I'll criticize all games for). These people aren't cannibals like there were in 3 and Vegas because of how scarce fresh food is. None of them have slaves and just seemingly kill and do shit with no rhyme or reason. You're telling me these brutally hardened maniacs won't defile anyone remotely clean they come across? No threats of it even? Torture too? Only thing that's not even edgy they do is be slightly racist towards races that don't even exist.
 
I'm starting to wonder if New Vegas fans are, in fact, the worst thing for New Vegas.
Yes.
An astonishing degree of them are, Caesar forgive me for saying this, NCRcucks.

Either that or they unironically support the immortal corporate dictator who enacts the capitalism they abhor so much because he is uncorruptable (he said it so it must be true).
It's a universal axiom that the worst thing for any niche media space are normies, actually.
These fuckers ruin everything with their mid and nitwittery allowing them to dumb down a medium until it's nothing but slop.
 
Either that or they unironically support the immortal corporate dictator who enacts the capitalism they abhor so much because he is uncorruptable (he said it so it must be true).
Most folks I know who hate both the NCR or the Legion just go for the Yes Man ending. Sure, some of them are swayed by Mr. House, but that was more due to the voice acting, and players who don't want to do everything he wants like killing the Brotherhood would rather go the Yes Man route so they can just say ''I don't want to kill the Brotherhood'' and move on.

An astonishing degree of them are, Caesar forgive me for saying this, NCRcucks.
Damn, I didn't think there'd be a lot of them. Most FNV players I know choose Legion, House, or just go full independent with Yes Man. Essentially, the latter two options are like the NCR, if they were handled by a more competent leader.
 
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Damn, I didn't think there'd be a lot of them. Most FNV players I know choose Legion, House, or just go full independent with Yes Man. Essentially, the latter two options are like the NCR, if they were handled by a more competent leader.
The amount of NCR apologists I've argued with over the years would make me think otherwise, but I did come here from GayFAQs so that might explain that.
 
The amount of NCR apologists I've argued with over the years would make me think otherwise, but I did come here from GayFAQs so that might explain that.
Funny. Most FNV fans I've met simp for Caesar, House, or nobody. The NCR was the one everyone picked on because they're weak pussies who always need help. Contrast this with either House or Caesar, where the libertarians pick House or Yes Man, and the edgelords and manosphere types pick Caesar.

Ironically the best ending for the NCR is anyone but them winning.
It's why I use the term NCRcuck unironically.
You're whoring yourself out for a branch and maintaining the unsustainable status quo.
The best situation for the NCR is if House wins. House will still allow NCR citizens to freely explore New Vegas and the Mojave, protecting them with Securitrons, while profiting from their business. And the NCR itself doesn't have to pay a dime to protect those citizens. All the while, the Legion will be too scared to attack westward, since Securitron rockets and lasers are waiting for them if they do. No amount of bodily training will prepare you for taking a grenade or a rocket to the face. So the Legion will keep quiet, NCR folks will be free to wander the city of New Vegas and the Mojave, and everyone will be happy.

Seriously, with how weak their leadership is, the NCR would've been a bigger threat if they just merged with House and allowed him to call the shots. If you just had two factions, one with Caesar in charge of the Legion, and the NCR has House in charge, you'd have a genuine battle of wills between two competent leaders; one uses infiltration, military tactics, and men in peak physical condition, the other uses snipers, diplomacy, and tech such as robots with artillery. Make it so that the democratic state does the smart thing for once and gives a real leader the reins just so he can defeat their enemy and secure victory for them.

You can still have the Yes-Man option if you kill House and take Vegas for yourself while still having the Securitron army keep both the NCR and the Legion at bay, but making the main story be about a battle between two geniuses who are forced into a stalemate would've been far more unique and compelling than if it was the usual ''good democracy is sinking under red tape and sucks at fighting evil efficient fascists.'' Like seriously, with how pathetic the NCR is in FNV, one could argue that FNV's story, when viewed from a certain perspective, is an argument for fascism or corporate state control, since democracy is too fragile and prone to infighting to get shit done the way Caesar or House would.
 
Funny. Most FNV fans I've met simp for Caesar, House, or nobody. The NCR was the one everyone picked on because they're weak pussies who always need help. Contrast this with either House or Caesar, where the libertarians pick House or Yes Man, and the edgelords and manosphere types pick Caesar.
Honestly, I wouldn't care but NCR fags (and to a lesser extent House fags) always seem to argue that "they're the only ones who can save the wasteland" which just makes me roll my eyes because it's clear as fuck no matter who you choose shit is fucked anyways. Same shit with Skyrim and Stormcloak vs Imperial tbqh.

I'd rather people just pick out of roleplay or simply cause they like them, and not try to make a justification and be "correct". That's always how I know I'm dealing with a grade A faggot.

It's why I hated how so many gave me shit for choosing Institute the one time I finished Fallout 4 because they're "bad". No fucking shit I'm choosing Institute, it's my fucking son. Why the fuck would I fight for a bunch of toaster sympathizers or a bunch of authoritarians in power armor I have no affiliation with?
 
The Synthetic Man video did bring a good point that made me think a bit.

How much of the shills and defenders of this show are actual human beings (I use the term lightly when describing them tho) or AI bots.

Like it or not, we are at the age where the "Dead Internet" Theory is looking more and more legit because bot/AI (not AI but I guess we are using this term no matter what) have reached a point where you can trick someone who isnt paying attention that these are actual human beings commenting. They are JUST enough convincing you can believe they were made by a retarded shill, which says a lot about shills that their insights are so bland that an AI can replicate them but I digress,

Through a combination of paid youtube shills and paid AI bots, Im legit convinced that a significant chunk of the fans of this show do not actually exist, they are just trying to make themselves seem like the majority so normies will be pressured into joining along. But dont misunderstand me, I still legit believe there are many many very human retards that adore this show, its just that we are in a cycle of idiots getting defended/embolded by bots and hence and repeat.

The internet is becoming a scarier place by the year and I fucking hate it.

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The autism on this thread has been absolutely off the charts since the show dropped, and Cyrus is either a chucklehead or a very bad troll, but this is spot on. If a buddy likes some show you don't, slops or not, you're an absolute dipshit if you let that affect your friendship. It's the kind of shit Disney fans pull.

You misunderstand me, our friendship isnt affected and I moved on from that. I simply commented that given his based nature, him enjoying the show was a twist that made me rethink what he considers actually "based" or not. In no point I second guessed our friendship because, ultimately, its goyslop not worth losing anything significant over.

So hopefully that clarified, Im a tard but not that autistic over insignificant shit. Cyrus just jumped to conclusions (cuz he is a try hard)
 
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It's why I hated how so many gave me shit for choosing Institute the one time I finished Fallout 4 because they're "bad". No fucking shit I'm choosing Institute, it's my fucking son. Why the fuck would I fight for a bunch of toaster sympathizers or a bunch of authoritarians in power armor I have no affiliation with?
Because Shaun is a retard who runs the biggest collection of retards who make robot Peter pans. The institute is so stupidly written and Shaun so aggressively dismissive of any criticism. They were never appealing to me not because they're evil but because they're retarded and annoying
 
All I know is that using synth man as anything more than background noise is gay. You're just listening to your own opinion being regurgitated back to you and pretending like that's not what it is.

New Vegas would he a 10/10 game if it hadn't been on such a deadline and Obsidian was a better developer and Bethesda had a less dogshit engine.

The only viable options in NV are House and NCR as far as I'm concerned. I dont care about cut content. From what we see in game, Legion won't last after Caesar shits the bed. While House and the Cuckfornians at least have a snowballs chance. As far as the Strip goes anyway. And the side factions like Brotherhood, Boomers and Khans might as well be non existent considering the comparatively small contribution they make to your side. You get on just fine whether you merc them all or not. So who gives a fuck as dar they go.

Also thanks Chris for reverting the Brotherhood to their isolationist routes. Then again, you also wanted to send the Wastes back to the stone age with Crawlers and Madre Fog. But yeah, Bethesda are the ones against letting the setting progress. Because they use... Super Mutants and The US Government(Enclave) as recurring baddies?

im drunk and this is a lazy shit post. Fight me
 
Honestly, I wouldn't care but NCR fags (and to a lesser extent House fags) always seem to argue that "they're the only ones who can save the wasteland" which just makes me roll my eyes because it's clear as fuck no matter who you choose shit is fucked anyways. Same shit with Skyrim and Stormcloak vs Imperial tbqh.

I'd rather people just pick out of roleplay or simply cause they like them, and not try to make a justification and be "correct". That's always how I know I'm dealing with a grade A faggot.
The thing is, you have to look at with what you're left with. Like I did with the Skyrim and the Stormcloak vs. Imperial shit. I went with the Imps because I killed their Emperor in secret, and I'm the Dragonborn. I can easily pass myself off as a Septim bastard, especially since my character is a Dragonborn and being a Septim bastard is the most likely explanation for it. That, and my Dragonborn is an Imperial Legate, so they're pretty high up in the Imp food chain already. Combine that with me pretending to be a Septim bastard with my Dragonborn powers, and that Ruby Throne is as good as mine. Then I'll have a larger country with which to pound the Thalmor to dust with.

Contrast that with the Stormcloaks. Ulfric is a shit leader, but he does bring back trial by combat as a way to decide who rules, so I can just as easily challenge him to a 1v1 and kill him with the Thu'um, making me king of Skyrim. But then I'm stuck being king of a northern wasteland while the Imperials and Thalmor are both still stronger than me. What's to stop them from ganging up on my Skyrim before going back to killing each other?

In the same vein, House and the Legion are both better choices than the NCR. If I pick the NCR, I can help them win the Mojave and even work my way up to being their president, using my fame and all the NCR folks I've helped as my way in, but I'll get stuck having to work with the broken bureaucracy that favors the rich and the corrupt. It's as Caesar said about Aaron Kimball, he gained power through election, which forces him to always serve those under him instead of moving the NCR forward. A Courier as the President of the NCR will just inherit the problems the previous administration had, and the weakness and red tape will just further debilitate any growth the NCR might have from conquering the Mojave.

Meanwhile, if I work with the Legion, Caesar literally puts the Courier's face on the money, a sign in old Rome that they're next in line, not Lanius. So when Caesar finally kicks the bucket, the Courier, be they man or woman, is next in line for the throne, and they can practically dictate reforms from the top. They can slowly reform the Legion and remove its more barbaric aspects while doing what Caesar wanted, taking the best of the NCR and the Legion and creating a new synthesis between the two systems; sure, it'd take years of work, but with absolute power and an army behind the Courier's back, I'm sure that a better society can be built.

Same with Mr. House; I can let him keep on ruling New Vegas and he'd keep things stable, or I can Yes Man the fucker down the road anyways, if I hadn't done so already, and if I did, I can also dictate reforms from the top, except I'd have securitrons with me and I wouldn't need to slowly reform the system the way I would have to of I were in charge of the Legion. The only way the Yes Man ending is bad is if the Courier is a fucking retard; otherwise, it'd probably be the most prosperous ending for the Mojave and the NCR.

It's why I hated how so many gave me shit for choosing Institute the one time I finished Fallout 4 because they're "bad". No fucking shit I'm choosing Institute, it's my fucking son. Why the fuck would I fight for a bunch of toaster sympathizers or a bunch of authoritarians in power armor I have no affiliation with?
Institute's the best choice for Fallout 4 in the long run. You make sure your son dies loving you and seeing you as a hero, you have control over a place that can create an army of battle droids that you can conquer the wasteland with, and those fucking power armor hoarders are six feet under. Eventually, your Institute Synth army can restore peace and justice to the Commonwealth, and you can bring order to the wastes without having to answer to some ponce in some airship who thinks he's the post-apocalyptic version of King Arthur.

I really can't understate how much I hate the Brotherhood. When I first booted up FNV, I wanted to link up with them and learn how to use power armor, but both of my interactions with Brotherhood Elders ended up with them slapping bomb collars on my character and telling her what to do. From a roleplaying standpoint, my Courier, who doesn't take shit from people, would've massacred them without a second thought for that. Especially when every other leader she met tells her that the Brotherhood are no good. Eventually, she learned how to use power armor from the Enclave instead, and wiped them out in several of my playthroughs.

And since the Brotherhood in FNV is closer to their original counterparts than the FO3 Brotherhood, yes, my hatred for the FNV Brotherhood extends to the original Brotherhood from Fallout 1 and the one in FO4. Fallout 1's Brotherhood literally sends you on a mission so you can die, and the FO4 Brotherhood is just acting stupid. They're more evil than the OG Brotherhood which would probably preserve the tech to create Synths and integrate the Institute into their ranks rather than blowing them all up.
 
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Just download Tale of Two Wastelands.

Bethesda Fallout shifted into Marvel-tier goofy shoot green guys post apocalypse nonsense with 4 and the series never regained any grit at all. Funnily enough, 3 and Skyrim both had some pretty metal and dark subject matter.
I'll always accept Fallout 3 as the only decent Toddslop game, mostly because of nostalgia of course.

But also because I can always imagine the disparity between the East and West Coasts as something like IRL countries on the same continent or island having massive disparities.

Like how (pre-ANC) South Africa was a generally fine country to live in if you're well off but still has some pretty shitty areas while Somalia is an utterly irredeemable warlord ridden shithole. Or Yemen (war ridden shithole) and Oman (developing but relatively livable) if we want to use a contemporary example.

It's like that in my headcanon. West Coast at least is thriving but East Coast is a Somalia tier shithole for... Reasons. Okay maybe it's not that great of an excuse but I'd buy it if I can just isolate Fallout 3 as the sole Toddslop game I'll accept in my headcanon.

Maybe the East Coast took a massive dip in IQ levels after the bombs or maybe some FEV leaking out of Vault 87.
 
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Why do nice guys never get the girl. I'm just a drugged addicted repairman. I saved Tandi and she won't give me handy. I talked to a prostute and she says I don't have the money for her. Just because I murder a family and shot up a church doesn't mean I'm not a nice guy.
 
I'll always accept Fallout 3 as the only decent Toddslop game, mostly because of nostalgia of course.
It honestly gets a worse rap than it deserves. It's a very solid game and there were clearly attempts made to marry it into Fallout canon, as well as maintain many of the series' core design principles. Quests in F3 have a lot of choices and options.

The idea that the East Coast is shittier than the West is kind of how I always ran with it too. DC especially just being America's hellhole armpit doesn't seem too far-fetched, it just takes a little bit of finagling to get it working.

Really, Todd's biggest mistake was simply moving the timeline too far forward. If Fallout 3 had taken place 25 or 30 years after the bombs dropped it would be fine.
 
It honestly gets a worse rap than it deserves. It's a very solid game and there were clearly attempts made to marry it into Fallout canon, as well as maintain many of the series' core design principles. Quests in F3 have a lot of choices and options.

The idea that the East Coast is shittier than the West is kind of how I always ran with it too. DC especially just being America's hellhole armpit doesn't seem too far-fetched, it just takes a little bit of finagling to get it working.

Really, Todd's biggest mistake was simply moving the timeline too far forward. If Fallout 3 had taken place 25 or 30 years after the bombs dropped it would be fine.
FO3 is as close as one could honestly hope for in terms of "Fallout but new". It's got the same oppressive tone of 1, with plenty of 2's more whacky lightheaded-ness. It even makes an honestly good attempt at marrying modern action gameplay with the OG Isometric point and click with VATS.

3 is a great game on its own, and a fantastic introduction to the OG games. If you're starting with 3 and don't like it, you'll certainly have an even tougher time with the first 2. But if you like 3, you'll LOVE 1 & 2.
 
I'm starting to wonder if New Vegas fans are, in fact, the worst thing for New Vegas.
Ring a Ding Ding Baby…

But seriously, the entire reason why the Fallout fandom is so infamous is because of New Vegas fanboys.
There are people who legitimately won’t play New Vegas because they want to spite New Vegas fans and because they fear they might turn into one due to what they’ve heard and seen online.

There’s a difference between liking New Vegas and being a New Vegas fan. Hell, you can even like New Vegas the most and hate the Bethesda games without being a New Vegas fan.
I don’t know what it is about that one game that makes people so rabid. Idk any other gaming fandom that is like that where people dump on most of the rest of a series and think one game is the second coming of Christ.

People like this shouldn’t be content creators.
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Like seriously can someone tell me one redeeming quality that Creetosis has? Like I get it, he also doesn’t like Fallout 3 and 4 like most of you but give me a redeeming quality besides him disliking something you also dislike.

Nothing positive has ever come out of this human being. Literally nothing positive.

It’s him ranting about shit he hates disguised as criticism, being the Wish.com Mauler with his even less successful sycophants yes manning him into oblivion by doing an EFAP ripoff solely on people who make positive Bethesda Fallout videos or negative New Vegas videos, and him making response videos to people making videos on him.

No vids talking about what he DOES like or what he thinks is good. Plus he’s a Cucknadian so he should be shot in the back of the head for merely existing if I do say so myself.
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Oh and despite being literally the most Furry looking VTuber on the planet, he claims he isn’t a furry so….Yeah.
 
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