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These people do realize that games that came out of Soviet Union when it came to video game production was Tetris and there's actually this really cool museum run by this one guy in Moscow
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The problem here is that it may as well be pro-Commie after-the-fact because, for the sake of being able to have the property be sold in China, they won't be able to imply that the alternate-universe Chinese state did anything wrong.
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Well, nothing related to the TV show will ever be taken seriously by anyone who's not a grifter and is an actual fan of Fallout and the mythical art of "good writing" and "consistency."
I know this is a shitpost but lol no they don't. The vast majority of people who watched this show and enjoyed it were normies, normies don't have the time, patience, wrinkles in their brain, nor interest to do anything more than look at the pretty effects and laugh at the reddit humor. If you asked most of these people who watched the show to tell you the plot you can see their eyes glaze over.
Breadtubers and their followings are usually commies, so of course they're specifically going after Capitalism. They also have no problem with war if it's "against the bad guys (people they disagree with" but won't say that out loud.
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Fucking love these retards. Their self-awareness is in the negatives and they always have something retarded to say that'll make me laugh. You can tell none of them ever touched the original games, or anything other than Fo3, Fo4, and Fo76. There are times where the creator of a writing loses the plot in subsequent writings and misrepresents their own work in some capacity, but those are quite rare and clearly is not what's happening here.
This one especially, holy shit nigger what is you talkin' abouts? "Just because you didn't make it a criticism of Capitalism doesn't mean it's not a criticism of Capitalism, because I said so!" I could say that Fallout 2 is a story about white supremacy because I made the Chosen One white and murdered non-white I see, because I said so therefore I am correct.
Right? These people can't admit they might be incorrect, ever. They're already going "well the author is wrong about his own work and I'm right despite never writing anything but Reddit posts" so they'd do that to whoever they need to. Todd, Paliarulo, anyone. It's also funny how they'll shift from "Tim Cain is the Godfather of Fallout and what he says is gospel" to "I know his work better than he does!" as soon as their own thoughts are thrown into question.
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Honestly I see no issue with this. Like I said in my previous post there's nothing wrong with that.
The issue arises when they try to insist it isn't just their own retarded interpretation and that they're totally smarter than the dumb idiot creator who clearly doesn't know his own creation better than ME!
No child, Fallout was almost certainly a criticism of capitalism. Enjoy, communism.The line is drawn when you try to pretend your own interpretation as fact. Like if you simply prefaced a statement like this with "It could possibly be interpreted as [X] as well." then it'd be fine. But nah, you have to prove you're more intelligent than that stinky original creator.
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I'm sorry but t his chart is missing something.No, nobody does because it's not canon. The fans have spoken
"Fallout Resurrection" under fan-made spin-offs, of course.
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Im going to have open mind here cause the only Bethesda Fallout I played was 3 and that game didn't go into any capitalism is bad stuff it mostly just repeated 1 and 2 and New Vegas doesnt have it. So does 4 and 76 have alot of this shit?
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4 doesn't really go into any in-depth economic discussion, it just repeats the same "War is Bad" sensible opinon that the first 3 games and New Vegas did, cant speak for 76, the whole thing really is mentally ill redditors trying to apply their own allegories as head-canon. if anything it condemns both the Americans and Chinese nuking each other, nothing about what economic system either one has being right or wrong.
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The thing with "capitalism bad" is that you COULD say it was something Fallout had but it was subtle and leaned more akin to "unchecked corporate and governmental powers are bad under any sort of ideology, capitalism and communism alike". You get countless examples of the government and companies fucking the little guy over, sometimes even with doing so together but the criticism does lean towards a more universal and less political direction, making one see the pre-war world was its own brand of awfulness. We never saw Communist China but any info we get and its implied a lot that it was somehow even worse than America and you were kind of screwed no matter what, even when you show total loyalty towards them (there is a mission in Point Lookout that has you completing the mission of a chinese spy that eventually concludes with the final orders from back home being "lol, your usefulness ran out. Die".).
In any case, Fallout never criticized Capitalism specifically, mostly human nature, which ties back to its "War never changes" theme. Now, of course, all that I told you requires care for the source material, understanding of the real world and a respect for the audience's intelligence and the show's writers clearly had none of that. The writing of the show is shockingly unsubtle that it makes Fallout 76 tell it to tone it down.
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Fallout's America is more a fascist (actual fascist not the l*ftiod meaning of the word)/corporatist state than a capitalist one. Then again coping low IQ l*ftiods say that fascism is "capitalism in decay" anyway.
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Communists coping and seething.
Notice that at no point has Tim Cain actually defended capitalism. He doesn't even say that the games don't critique it (they do in many places), all he said was that it was a critique of human nature. That is the whole point of the famous quote.
But the communist cannot tolerate this. All media must push THE MESSAGE and all media must work towards the marxist revolution to bring about utopia. Not being a critique of capitalism then to them is the same as worshiping it.
Notice that at no point has Tim Cain actually defended capitalism. He doesn't even say that the games don't critique it (they do in many places), all he said was that it was a critique of human nature. That is the whole point of the famous quote.
But the communist cannot tolerate this. All media must push THE MESSAGE and all media must work towards the marxist revolution to bring about utopia. Not being a critique of capitalism then to them is the same as worshiping it.
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Lol.
It's amazing how easily they expose themselves as the scum they are.
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F4: NV releasing the drip feed content every other 4-6 months lol, last one was laughable at best, see below:
how tf do you make the rebar club look really goddamn faggot coded.
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That has to be a unique rebar club right? Because there is no way they want that to be the default weapon.
the problem is that its the only unique for the rebar club lol, might go good with the lady super mutant, but she already has the verti assault blade tho.
I'd personally expect something more brutal, considering how rustic concrete and rebar are, something like wrapping the top in chainsaw teeth or something. No I dont mean dark and gritty either.
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The only Fallout property that commentates on Capitalism is fucking Amazon's TV show, which is a whole heap of ironic that I just can't help but laugh at. Bethesda may have killed the IP but Amazon definitely shit on the corpse.
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Why else you think that communist china is barely mentioned and that they retconned the ones who shot the bombs not being China anymore but Vault Tec as the icon of capitalism? All to serve a plan thats somehow vague and convoluted that Im starting to wonder if its not intentionally stupid to further drill that capitalists are dumb. At this point its difficult to tell if the stupidity is intentional or if the characters are only as smart as its writers.
Why do they act like just because capitalism is criticized that other methods of government and ideology also arent? Communist China is implied to be its own brand of Hellhole to the point you see the pre-war world is absolutely screwed between both super powers. Fallout's theme was that humanity's very nature was the issue and that will never change and thus "War never changes"
Commies struggle against chance that their system of government sucks as or even more than capitalism at its worst.
Maybe we should be glad there is no trans flag on it anywhere.
Sometimes I wonder if these mods are taking so long because of the natural challenges of translating a game so big with a team so small and for free or if there are a bunch of internal conflicts (that no doubt includes trannies because every fucking time there is at least one somewhere)
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I would not have the land down under criticized for fallout tactics it has a different feel but it still feels like a fallout game and it's 100% cannon
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I like the revisionism of “W-Well it actually became about capitalism when Bethesda got a hold of the IP” even though people have been saying the exact opposite is the case for a while now