Fallout series

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Gravityqueen4life said:
Im just surprised how quickly people forgot about London after release. maybe its just one of those things that will get super popular after a few years once thing settles downs and becomes more stable.
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You're surprised how quickly people stopped giving a shit about a britbong mod for a video game series who's entire identity is strongly rooted in Americana?
 
Its so funny seeing one of the more "RPG" missions in the game, outside of the Wasteland Guide of course, in F3 is "You've got to shoot them in the head". Possibly it too was one of the earlier designed missions, so Bethesda had more time and "fucks" to give to make it beefier.

The ghoul wants you to kill bigots that think ghouls are zombies that can only die with a shot to the head. I wont give a rundown of the mission but basically there are many options to approach each target and obtain the keys and see what they open and how there might be more to this than simply "killing bigots"... It is surprisingly varied in their approaches to getting it done and one of the few missions in F3 that actually feel "RPG-ish" akin to the first two entries.

Why am I telling you this? Because I still get blown away that Bethesda allowed one of their most iconic missions in F3 get its literal title get completely ass fucked by the amazon TV show by making ghouls now literal zombies you gotta shoot in the head, otherwise they wont die. It literally goes against what ghouls want people to see them as but sure, now they are unargurably zombos. And honestly, I think people really dont seem to appreciate how, despite its flaws, F3 surprisingly treated the lore way better than F4, 76 and the amazon series ever did as you can feel that nothing really overstayed its welcome or stretched too much what was already established and you can even argue that the design of ghouls felt close enough to what we saw in F1/2 (they look like fucked up radiation burn victims, some even looking like their skin melted a bit).

And I literally had a shower thought, "What is even the fucking serum? Is it rad-way? Would rad-way even do anything to ghouls? It would possibly be poison if anything. Is it FEV? Why would there be serums of FEV around? Who's making them? Who's selling them?" And I legit dont care if someone tries to say "uh awhktually" me because while I havent watched this series beyond clips and reviews I also dont care to do so for very much obvious reasons because it ultimately comes down to how the serum is a bad retcon that raises a comical amount of questions that you know arent going to be answered and, if they are, not in way that satisfies people that actually give a shit because this series isnt MADE for people that would ask said questions.

Its funny because I almost dont care about ghouls in Fallout and yet Im all over these retcons relating to them, perhaps as a matter of principles towards the established lore.

But whatever, it dont matter, we literally had Jet in a Vault and the writer of the quest eventually resorted to the "Shut up, its fiction, nerds" card so why did I expect any different?

The more Bethesda does on this franchise, the more I start to both appreciate F3 more and see it as a dud because outside of it, the company's handling of the IP has been pretty piss poor at the best of times.



30+GameOvers said:
So what you're saying is that we need to lock Emil in a room for a week and have him write for the next Starfield DLC or Fallout 5 to improve the writing, then? Not like that's a high bar to reach. If he ODs by accident, even better.
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I can never do that, I'd "forget" to drop by food and water.

3 days should do the trick...
 
Caring about the TV show or it's "lore" is a waste of time. You're thinking about it harder than the series writers did, they put the bare minimal in because they know whatever they make will sell on brand name alone(and they're right).
 
30+GameOvers said:
Caring about the TV show or it's "lore" is a waste of time. You're thinking about it harder than the series writers did, they put the bare minimal in because they know whatever they make will sell on brand name alone(and they're right).
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Ignoring it is still a bit delusional. They touch the place and the themes that are very important to the lore in its roots.
Mostly because it implies the future of the francise. We will never see the propper fall of NCR. They WILL fuck up new vegas cause they cant write for shit. And fallout will forever stay as mad max like setting after bethesdas rules.
And they are too big to sink cause even now they have sunked and simply touching the ocean floor and manage to keep above water.
 
DefinitelyNotMe said:
Ignoring it is still a bit delusional. They touch the place and the themes that are very important to the lore in its roots.
Mostly because it implies the future of the francise. We will never see the propper fall of NCR. They WILL fuck up new vegas cause they cant write for shit. And fallout will forever stay as mad max like setting after bethesdas rules.
And they are too big to sink cause even now they have sunked and simply touching the ocean floor and manage to keep above water.
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Nobody who actually likes the franchise talks about it or takes it seriously. It doesn't exist and will never be mentioned. Simple as that. Might as well be someone's fanfiction for how much difference it makes for most of the oldschool fanbase, ie the only one that matters.
Your mistake was assuming that anything Bethesda makes "officially" will ever matter again. It won't, it might as well be a splinter franchise at this point. Fallout ended with New Vegas, maybe Fallout 4 if you really want to split hairs. 76 doesn't exist either and neither will Fallout 5, the modders and their fanprojects are carrying that torch now. Ergo, nothing from the recent Fallout media matters either since it never happened. Let them destroy New Vegas just like they destroyed Shady Sands, I don't care because this isn't canon media and never will be. Thankfully, Todd has no time travelling powers and can't undo Fallout 2/New Vegas, and that would be the only way he could call the shots on anything that happened in these games.
 
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30+GameOvers said:
Your mistake was assuming that anything Bethesda makes "officially" will ever matter again. It won't, it might as well be a splinter franchise at this point. Fallout ended with New Vegas, maybe Fallout 4 if you really want to split hairs. 76 doesn't exist either and neither will Fallout 5, the modders and their fanprojects are carrying that torch now. Ergo, nothing from the recent Fallout media matters either since it never happened. Let them destroy New Vegas just like they destroyed Shady Sands, I don't care because this isn't canon media and never will be. Thankfully, Todd has no time travelling powers and can't undo Fallout 2/New Vegas, and that would be the only way he could call the shots on anything that happened in these games.
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Yeah these people think making $80 million is impressive of the fallout TV show the rest of the fallout series made well over a billion and here's the thing if you gave the same budget to Chris Avalon and the original fallout guys and gave them just as much time as fallout 4 got they'd created 10 times better game.

The problem with making generic RPG #675 is you're competing now with every other generic RPG out there .
 
Sargon's wife's son said:
Yeah these people think making $80 million is impressive of the fallout TV show the rest of the fallout series made well over a billion and here's the thing if you gave the same budget to Chris Avalon and the original fallout guys and gave them just as much time as fallout 4 got they'd created 10 times better game.

The problem with making generic RPG #675 is you're competing now with every other generic RPG out there .
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I think Fallout, classic entries at least, are the exact opposite of a "generic RPG". Zoomies might not remember, but RPGs used to be completely different before release of Fallout 1. Many things we take from granted today were pioneered around that time, with Fallout 1 and 2 being one of the games that lead the way. Another game that was influential was Baldur's Gate, altho most people these days are unaware that any entry other than 3 exists. Funny, since it used to be like that with Fallout once upon a time.
 
30+GameOvers said:
I think Fallout, classic entries at least, are the exact opposite of a "generic RPG". Zoomies might not remember, but RPGs used to be completely different before release of Fallout 1. Many things we take from granted today were pioneered around that time, with Fallout 1 and 2 being one of the games that lead the way. Another game that was influential was Baldur's Gate, altho most people these days are unaware that any entry other than 3 exists. Funny, since it used to be like that with Fallout once upon a time.
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When you lose the identity of a series like fallout it becomes another generic RPG and then you have to compete with the rest of the generic RPGs consumed by the normal masses .

Once you have alienated your core audience enough they'll just move on and forget about your series if you told someone 15 years ago that a Star Wars movie would lose money they would call you crazy now they do
 
Sargon's wife's son said:
When you lose the identity of a series like fallout it becomes another generic RPG and then you have to compete with the rest of the generic RPGs consumed by the normal masses .

Once you have alienated your core audience enough they'll just move on and forget about your series if you told someone 15 years ago that a Star Wars movie would lose money they would call you crazy now they do
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True, this is why Bethesda titles shouldn't be treated as canon when talking about Fallout. There is still nothing quite like 1/2 and NV out there. It's hard to take something like Fallout 3/4 seriously when it's literally just Oblivion/Skyrim with guns.
 
30+GameOvers said:
True, this is why Bethesda titles shouldn't be treated as canon when talking about Fallout. There is still nothing quite like 1/2 and NV out there. It's hard to take something like Fallout 3/4 seriously when it's literally just Oblivion/Skyrim with guns.
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Yep and when fallout 5 flops I'm going to be laughing right after Bethesda Softworks gets shut down by Microsoft
 
You know, it just hit me, Eden said he shaped his personality based on all the presidents before him, including Richardson, leading to him having inconsistent backstories and styles of political promises.

Which means....

Oh shit, President Eden is literally what happens if you tell ChatGPT to create a president based on all the ones that took office.

Tri-TachyonRepresentative said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O3_lXaQt0BIThank God my guy does not have a huge following, the screeching would be unbearable.
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Damn. Subbed.
 
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Rick The Stick said:
This is such a common opinion that it's a meme. The fuck are you talking about?
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Common? I mean, depends on where you find it most. On here, probably (we've had pages talking about it I believe). On the rest of the internet where Fallout is talked about besides places like No Mutant Allowed or similar sites, I'd wager no in it being common. Such an opinion is so highly ridiculed if not made in obvious jest ("muh /sneed") that it's likely to get mocked so hard by pooners and turbofags that no one wants to share their agreement in this opinion, in fact I've seen some banned for it in the usual places you'd see "Legion good" mocked if they are completely serious in their support of the Legion being even slightly good for the Mojave. Besides, I mentioned it's commonality, only it's "blasphemy" on the wider internet. It's a meme, yes, but not usually one made in support of this opinion, like this shit:
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And now I suddenly miss Schizo Elijah.
 
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Tri-TachyonRepresentative said:
Common? I mean, depends on where you find it most. On here, probably (we've had pages talking about it I believe). On the rest of the internet where Fallout is talked about besides places like No Mutant Allowed or similar sites, I'd wager no in it being common. Such an opinion is so highly ridiculed if not made in obvious jest ("muh /sneed") that it's likely to get mocked so hard by pooners and turbofags that no one wants to share their agreement in this opinion, in fact I've seen some banned for it in the usual places you'd see "Legion good" mocked if they are completely serious in their support of the Legion being even slightly good for the Mojave. Besides, I mentioned it's commonality, only it's "blasphemy" on the wider internet. It's a meme, yes, but not usually one made in support of this opinion, like this shit:
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And now I suddenly miss Schizo Elijah.
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I like how likely a right-winger is some sort of own or insult, you can tell this was made by a reddit tranny
 
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