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It is true. I never got the appealing of the Van Graffs more than being techno-niggers.
Is either blackmail them with Cass or just kill everybody by Hardin's orders.
But working for them? Being the niggers they are? Backstabbing shitskins motherfuckers?
No thanks, bro.
They pay pretty well for what I remember, plus XP is still XP.
 
They've implied that the show may overlap with future games somehow so Fallout 4 could end being the last canon Fallout in some people's minds considering 76 also features The Ghoul. Fallout 5 acknowledging the show in some measure would canonise it. They can't ever speak of the NCR again without acknowledging the nuke so you'd basically have to consider everything from hereon out as non-canon lmao.
If I had to guess, if the TV show wasn't already, FO5 will be the watershed moment where they move over to the West Coast and finally ruin everything established there.

San Fran was talked about a lot via Kellogg in the same way the Commonwealth was in 3. I also recall there were some mentions of Bethesda telling the NV devs to not use San Fran in case they wanted to make a game there, which why else would you say that unless you had plans to do that?

Plus in the FO3 making of video Todd stated that he wanted to have FO3 set in the WC. If it makes anyone feel better, Emil was the one who pushed for 3 and 4 to be set in the East Coast in the first place, so in a way he saved us all from himself for a time.

Granted a lot of these points are based off of things from 15-17 years ago, but it's food for thought. In all actuality it will likely either be San Fran or God forbid New York. Given Boston, can you imagine how bad the stuttering and frame rate will be?

As for why I say New York, FO4 was actually supposed to take place there originally, and at the end of the game you would have the Institute reveal and would travel by vertibird to Boston to deal with them. It should be noted that they held onto the design documents for this.

I would really prefer if they did some other locales we haven't seen yet, like Ronto, Chicago, and Texas.

None of it really matters, since assuming Bethesda even has it's doors open for that long will take at least another 10 years before we even see FO5 in anyone's steam library.
 
For what its worth, FO4 had some funny build options with perks. Going all-out on luck, ricocheting bullets and charisma. Basically running around talking people into killing each other. And the fact you can pick perks you want without having to grind a related stat is what one-ups FO over TES.
 
For what its worth, FO4 had some funny build options with perks. Going all-out on luck, ricocheting bullets and charisma. Basically running around talking people into killing each other. And the fact you can pick perks you want without having to grind a related stat is what one-ups FO over TES.
There's no point in "builds" in Fallout 4 because power armor is so strong.

An X0 suit plus whatever weapon has the highest DPS will outclass everything else.

It's arguably lore friendly but not very interesting in a gameplay sense.
 
There's no point in "builds" in Fallout 4 because power armor is so strong.

An X0 suit plus whatever weapon has the highest DPS will outclass everything else.

It's arguably lore friendly but not very interesting in a gameplay sense.
i only use power armor clearing dungeons. if not the game loses a lot of gameplay elements
 
B-but Caesar's Legion! Oh yeah? The bad guy faction? The faction with 80% of its content cut? The faction you're meant to despise and which the fan base treats like a universal punching bag? Lead by 4 Int Caesar who is the epitome of midwit? The faction that Avellone said he would not make joinable if he were to make the game today? The faction that has its BEST CENTURIONS bested by a starving, beaten, enslaved, female ranger while they're armed with machetes and her her fists?
Caesar's Legion fucking sucks and i've never seen a legion fanboy actually have good points defending it besides autistic screeching. No amounts of cut content would change the fact that they're fanatical ludists slavers that commit war crimes for shits and giggles

The Legion is just raiders without drug addicts

There's nothing more retarded than rejecting technology when humanity needs it most. Rejecting in quotes, actually, since Caesar needs the autodoc so his cancerous ass won't die, and his elite praetorians need technology to defend him. Caesar himself is a shit leader that couldn't even kill Joshua Graham, the only reason the Legion is a threat to the NCR is because the game needed an antagonist to the main plot, as they're basically retarded spear chuckers fighting against a proper army
 
How are mods on Linux? Does Vortex or Mod Manager work with it? I ask because I absolutely do not want to go back to my Windows partition just to play Fallout NV again, since I've been Windows free for most of the year now outside of work.

I've gotten mods to run on Linux back in 2021, but it's something you'll have to kludge together via Lutris. It's been a while, but I do remember I was able to link both the Mod Manager and Vortex together in the same instance with Steam, and from there load all my old mods from way back in 2014. So theoretically, all you have to do is section and import all the old settings, mods, and load order from your Windows instance, then bring it over to a Linux install and set it up installing Mod Manager and Vortex via WINE and/or some Linux native solution.

From there, you can play to your heart's content. I was even able to set up separate instances of different save files in the same run to toy with different mod setups and swap back no problem.

It has been a couple years since then, but it should still work assuming Bethesda has not ordained to update and screw things over, you should be fine. Toy around a little, and you should be good to go. I'll dig around my old PC, and let you know if I find out more about how I went about it.

Edit: Did a little sleuthing, and I found there are a couple YouTube tutorials for the purpose as well.




The first video tutorial seems roughly in line with my memories of how it went for my own installation for MO2, though I have yet to watch it in full. I am currently in the process of attempting to get my old setup started on my newer rig, but I don't think too much should have changed installation wise from when I got it working last time.As for the others, I'll have to take a closer look later. But it appears you can even run them on the Steam Deck too via desktop mode.

All that said, I did have a hell of a time with some of the bigger DLC mods like New California. Far as I can recall, I never got that to work for one reason or another due to the rather byzantine nature of trying to figure out how to get those particular mods installed. Add on to that, there isn't much help in terms of troubleshooting, seeing as any guides for the purpose will assume you are doing it with Windows in mind. You should still have access to anything less complicated than that for the most part. Just keep in mind that you'll have to put in an extra bit of elbow grease to get things working. I'd say the effort it is worth it if you are trying to get off the spyware with an OS attached known as Windows 11, so give it a shot.
 
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Caesar's Legion fucking sucks
You take that back!

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The way I see it, even with all cut content considered, NV's main theme is about being the new frontier and being the finale to the West Coast trilogy, so as the ending it's dealing with the logical point of conclusion: inter-factional conflicts and deciding both who will conquer the frontier and who is pretty much going to lead the first real successful large scale attempt at getting humanity back on it's feet.

Because of the points you mentioned and many more, within the game and without, I always felt that the point of the Legion as a choice is to be the complete opposite of progress, its by far the choice least likely to lead to anything good and the one most likely to fall apart after the events of the game. Whether or not that was intentional by the devs I feel is irrelevant, but I digress. How could you garner any other outcome or meaning of the Legion's ending in the story I don't know, but you'd have to not pay attention.

I'm not saying there is a "right" choice for the ending, you're dealing with broken men in a broken world, no option is the best one. But it should be obvious that the legion is the only real incorrect one. I'm thankful that ultimately the choice is up to (you), as I appreciate when games that let you pick options that are pretty obviously the wrong ones, though sadly that's a dying breed of choice these days.

The only way I could ever see a character actually joining the legion is either as a smooth brain 1 INT barbarian who only believes might=right, or some glowie who's just there to destabilize the region for outside forces to conquer. EDIT: and the obvious incel build is there too, the Mojave has fallen.

TL:DR: The legion is/should be designated as the only wrong option for the fate of the Mojave, intentional or not.
 
Caesar's Legion fucking sucks and i've never seen a legion fanboy actually have good points defending it besides autistic screeching. No amounts of cut content would change the fact that they're fanatical ludists slavers that commit war crimes for shits and giggles

The Legion is just raiders without drug addicts

There's nothing more retarded than rejecting technology when humanity needs it most. Rejecting in quotes, actually, since Caesar needs the autodoc so his cancerous ass won't die, and his elite praetorians need technology to defend him. Caesar himself is a shit leader that couldn't even kill Joshua Graham, the only reason the Legion is a threat to the NCR is because the game needed an antagonist to the main plot, as they're basically retarded spear chuckers fighting against a proper army
The whole point of the Legion is that NCR is so weak and corrupt that even an army of tribals can take them down. NCR can barely hold on to a small piece of land with all their resources and technology, meanwhile Ceasar has several entire states under his rule, one is clearly more efficient than the other. It doesn't matter how many conscripts with guns you have when they're untrained and low on resources, meanwhile pretty much every Legion soldier from the greenest recruits to preatorians and centurions can fight even barehanded if need be and take on at least one NCR soldier in the process, if not more. Short of Courier or House intervention, NCR lose the second battle canonically(and get their President assassinated), which means that in both battles the NCR pretty much needs a miracle to win(ingenuity or Rangers to win the last battle by the skin of their teeth, a literal player protagonist or an invisible hand wiping their ass for them in the second battle). BoS also lost to what amount to barbarians at Helios one, strength in numbers is always a viable strategy when used right.

You also rarely have trouble trading in their territory since all the bandits are run off, meanwhile NCR has to constantly deal with petty raider bands forming from people they kick out of their communities or stomp on to get their way, which is a cycle that will never end and will only further bleed them out in the long run. Yes, Ceasar is a hypocrite but he's also a tyrant, Kimball and Oliver are both just flatfooted retards that got into their position thru nepotism and everyone else suffers for it while he gets results. Ceasar can say all the dumb shit he wants and use whatever tech he wants, it doesn't change anything about the group. Looks like you completely missed the point of both factions, altho that's not surprising considering how retarded the current Fallout fandom is, everything has to be dumbed down into paste so even the lowest common denominator can consoom the franchise and even then they completely misinterpret basic ethos of the games. The only thing you're right about is that Legion fanboys tend to be extremely edgy retards with nothing good to say, I can list a few users just on this forum alone who fit that category and are Legion fags.
 
Looks like you completely missed the point of both factions, altho that's not surprising considering how retarded the current Fallout fandom is, everything has to be dumbed down into paste so even the lowest common denominator can consoom the franchise and even then they completely misinterpret basic ethos of the games. The only thing you're right about is that Legion fanboys tend to be extremely edgy retards with nothing good to say, I can list a few users just on this forum alone who fit that category and are Legion fags.
Amazing, you couldn't even go one post without somehow insulting the person you are responding too and someone that has nothing to do with what you said.
 
I'm not saying there is a "right" choice for the ending, you're dealing with broken men in a broken world, no option is the best one. But it should be obvious that the legion is the only real incorrect one. I'm thankful that ultimately the choice is up to (you), as I appreciate when games that let you pick options that are pretty obviously the wrong ones, though sadly that's a dying breed of choice these days.
The game pretty much steers the player into going for the independent ending when you meet Yes Man, though in my opinion the only correct way ending is giving Mr House control of Vegas. He's really the only competent one, as he's shown to be capable of not only maintaining peace, but protecting Vegas from the nuclear war as well. And he's not a genocidal maniac like the legion, nor a power hungry expansionist like the NCR. The most murderous thing he's willing to do is wiping out the Brotherhood, which is pretty understandable giving its history

even an army of tribals can take them down
Except that they can't. They lost the first battle and the second one was a stalemate which felt forced so the plot could go on... An underage conscript would win 99% the times against some legionary armed with a machete, save the occasional ambush. And Caesar is going to die from his cancer, leading to the dissolution of the Legion, which is a mish mash of tribals that will cannibalize each other the moment he croaks. NCR on the other hand has a solid foundation to the west

You also rarely have trouble trading in their territory since all the bandits are run off, meanwhile NCR has to constantly deal with petty raider bands forming from people they kick out of their communities or stomp on to get their way, which is a cycle that will never end and will only further bleed them out in the long run
There are raiders operating in legion territory, you can find them in game. Also ghouls since Caesar is a retard that ordered a radbomb inside the territory he's encroaching , the genius strategist he is

Looks like you completely missed the point of both factions, altho that's not surprising considering how retarded the current Fallout fandom is, everything has to be dumbed down into paste so even the lowest common denominator can consoom the franchise and even then they completely misinterpret basic ethos of the games
What did i miss, exactly? The Legion operates just the way i said. They murder whole communities that won't join him, including women, elders and children (Ulysses himself confirms it)

How is this progress? Siccing literal savages like the White Legs into peaceful productive communities like the New Cananites? Ordering mass murder and crucifixion in Nipton because "muh degeneracy"? There's not a single redeemable quality in the Legion, it's a bad faction, both morally speaking and in terms of writing

The NCR may have corruption and all things coming from old worlds problems and has its caveats, but they're a faction that has all the necessary to have a basic stability society despite living in a nuclear wasteland. They're actually trying to fix problems, while the Legion is just murdering and sabotaging everything

You say i'm like the "actual retarded fandom", but i've played the franchise since the first game, and if you know the story about NCRs origins since Shady Sands, you wouldn't just parrot what every redditor says about "muh NCR is incompetent", because it's the one faction that actually had steady growth in the series, even more so than Enclave and BoS
 
The problem is joining the Legion was a last decision make by the devs before release iirc.
That explains why there's so minimal content pro-Legion.
The Legion is the antagonist faction.
Point is, like i said, when you're greeted with child slaves when you visit the fort, it's a little tricky for any cut content to make the legion look good
 
Except that they can't. They lost the first battle and the second one was a stalemate which felt forced so the plot could go on... An underage conscript would win 99% the times against some legionary armed with a machete, save the occasional ambush. And Caesar is going to die from his cancer, leading to the dissolution of the Legion, which is a mish mash of tribals that will cannibalize each other the moment he croaks. NCR on the other hand has a solid foundation to the west
They lost the first battle narrowly, thanks to last minute Ranger intervention. If they didn't get the bright idea to blow up Boulder City, the dam would be lost, NCR was already more or less retreating by that point and all Legion had to do was hold their position to hold the dam. It was a gambit and it worked, it wasn't a flawless victory like you're trying to make it seem. Also, you're forgetting that Legion likes using ambush tactics and stealth over full frontal assault, only going for that strategy when it's clear they have the numbers. Moreover, recruits still get guns, so they wouldn't necessarily run at them with a machete unless they were at close range.
>NCR has solid foundations in the west
Yeah, like massive starvation in 10 years, lack of water and massive corruption that forces NCR to constantly expand even when they're not capable of holding territory so the (((brahmin barons))) and politicians can profit. They don't even have real currency anymore since BOS stole their gold reserves, they use worthless paper money merchants don't accept or wipe their ass with and the wasteland went back to using bottlecaps as currency when they were seen as archaic only 30-40 years before the game takes place. You didn't play the game.
There are raiders operating in legion territory, you can find them in game.
Legion only controls The Fort and optionally Nelson in the game. Every other area you find Legion in is either filled with wildlife or NCR troopers, usually dead ones. Once again, you didn't play the game. White Legs don't count since they are not from Ceasar controlled territory, the DLC clearly states that they're trying to kill Joshua so they can have a chance at joining the Legion since they can't fend for themselves. Pretty much everyone else is run off from their territory, the tribals and raiders like White Legs that stalk the other regions operate in nearby states out of Legion influence.
What did i miss, exactly? The Legion operates just the way i said. They murder whole communities that won't join him, including women, elders and children (Ulysses himself confirms it)

How is this progress? Siccing literal savages like the White Legs into peaceful productive communities like the New Cananites? Ordering mass murder and crucifixion in Nipton because "muh degeneracy"? There's not a single redeemable quality in the Legion, it's a bad faction, both morally speaking and in terms of writing
There is one good thing about the Legion, an annoying useless faggot like you would be crucified and nobody would miss you under their rule. Might is right, you can cry about muh slaves and women in the NCR camp next door, that is until it gets raided in the middle of the night. Losers don't get to make the rules.
The NCR may have corruption and all things coming from old worlds problems and has its caveats, but they're a faction that has all the necessary to have a basic stability society despite living in a nuclear wasteland. They're actually trying to fix problems, while the Legion is just murdering and sabotaging everything
Correction, NCR was stable under Tandi and everything fell apart the moment she died. Now, the current leadership is rapidly collapsing the Republic all for personal profit, while the army takes territory they cannot hold and loses men at a staggering rate. "Fixing problems", lol the NCR playthru is basically playing babysitter for their retarded, incompetent troops and fixing every single whoopsie doodle they made before the game started before they can even stand a chance to win the second battle. Even Legion is more capable of standing on their own two feet in the apocalypse and they're savages. Looks like murdering and sabotage works when your enemy is weak and incompetent. NCR leadership under Tandi is so bad that in Van Buren, a former NCR scientist was willing to nuke the entire region like Ulysses in New Vegas tries, and Presper had quite a few loyalists in his ranks so he wasn't alone. That just about says it all, Ulysses is a retard but Presper was "the smartest man in the world" according to the design doc, I will listen to his political takes anyday.
You say i'm like the "actual retarded fandom", but i've played the franchise since the first game, and if you know the story about NCRs origins since Shady Sands, you wouldn't just parrot what every redditor says about "muh NCR is incompetent", because it's the one faction that actually had steady growth in the series, even more so than Enclave and BoS
I'm saying you're a retard that hasn't played the game, because what you posted does not line up with the game I played. It's morons like you that gas up Legion fags, since they see your dumbass as an easy W in a debate, and they're right.
Amazing, you couldn't even go one post without somehow insulting the person you are responding too and someone that has nothing to do with what you said.
I didn't ask an emotional woman what she thinks. If my post hurt your feelings, kindly fuck off to reddit and stay there, you bothersome tourist pest.
 
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