Fallout series

[RA-5C Vigilante]

While I like New Vegas, I prefer the setting and feel of 3 over the Wild West of the Mojave. They both are good, when I want to be a cowboy I play NV. When I want to be a post-apocalyptic scavenger barely surviving a post nuclear nightmare I play 3.

There, you got an explanation how some things in 3 are better than NV in a few sentences. You didn't need an 8 hour video rebutting a 2 hour long video. Youtube is almost as fucking retarded as its users, I swear

 

[Yamamura]

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I am not a real fan.

I have to admit I don't know in retrospect if this was really worth it or even a good use of my time, but I'm glad Ringo isn't really that good at caravan.

And while I'm at it, I may as well post my playtime (not including the couple hundred hours I have on PS3):

Before anyone asks why I have more hours on FO4, it's because I owned NV first on PS3 and that's what kept me from upgrading to the PC ver for a while. Combined with my PS3 time I must be surpassing FO4

New Vegas being Vice City.

I always thought of New Vegas being more in the same vein as San Andreas personally. Where it was more culturally significant for a larger demographic of players. How GTA 5 does a few call backs to SA today (not as many call backs to GTA 4, but still). And the fact that it still remains a cultural staple today and has a somewhat active player base and modding community.

I think that overall New Vegas is better than 3, but 3 was much more mindblowing when it came out. You just can't recreate those feelings when you have a sequel that comes out which is basically just a major overhaul mod, even if it's better content and fixes most of what was wrong gameplay wise with the original.

I'd say it's nv > 3 > 4 in terms of modern fallouts, and I'm guessing that's the majority opinion. Never touching 76 because I'm not a faggot.

I'm actually one of those people who played FNV before 3. After playing all the DLCs of NV it set the bar pretty high and I actually found it a little difficult to analyze it independently as it's own work. Not saying it's bad just that it's hard to judge it upon it's own merits without comparing it back to something you've previously experienced.

Been browsing /v/ recently and notice a bunch of threads popping up defending 3 over NV. Is this just people randomly shit posting or did some YouTube make a 6 hour apologia for 3 or something?

It's probably a natural reoccurring phenomenon that happens every so often where someone stirs the shit and it devolves into a fight. Usually whenever I do notice anyone making videos shit talking the other it's usually one of those fallout meme channels.

Like the Return to Sender quest, their missions are actually not terrible on your first playthrough, because they force you to explore the map. On every subsequent playthrough, though ... yech.

If you don't want to go through all that to get power armor training. You can collect all the holotapes from the dead paladins (I grab one from the centaur pit from Black Mountain and REPCONN HQ on my shortcut to the Strip and then NAFB). And then hand them all to Hardin after reading about the Chain that Binds. Then just kill the Van Graffs by being an incompetent bouncer and letting that one guy in.

TBH I don't like power armor all that much. I find that I prefer riot armor (or combat armor for early game) as it's lighter and can be repaired more easily/cheaply. Unless that is I'm playing a tank build.

 

[Mecha-Jerkop]

Been browsing /v/ recently and notice a bunch of threads popping up defending 3 over NV. Is this just people randomly shit posting or did some YouTube make a 6 hour apologia for 3 or something?

I actually just want to grill like both and think the endless sperging is gay.

I fucking love that one anon who keeps coming in with

>Welcome to our *little* ENCLAVE
and then says FO76's bad reputation was because of "new Vegas redditor"

 

[Hideous K]

I posted this before the roll back, it's pretty much explains the creative process on why there's a mass effect-like speech system in Fallout 4

I don't mind Fallout 4, the guns and crafting is ok but the story is pretty weak.

 

[Unabashed Hermaphrodite]

While I like New Vegas, I prefer the setting and feel of 3 over the Wild West of the Mojave. They both are good, when I want to be a cowboy I play NV. When I want to be a post-apocalyptic scavenger barely surviving a post nuclear nightmare I play 3.

There, you got an explanation how some things in 3 are better than NV in a few sentences. You didn't need an 8 hour video rebutting a 2 hour long video. Youtube is almost as fucking retarded as its users, I swear

The worst part is as a fan of New Vegas and 2 the most is I could condense both videos into at most an hour long who would like each game better based on what they want out of it.

Like, opinions are cool and all but why does the algorithm promote That kinda stuff that much?

I myself don't like where the series is going but I'm eager to see where it's going.

I can still hold out hope even if it just seems to be getting more chaotic in each release at the very least.

Rate me late but I really just want some kinda story in Fallout where you hear about bottlecaps and the Brotherhood but only as crazy rumors to help show how the Wasteland isn't so interconnected.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Yes Man is the direction the game wants you to go for. House is a control freak, Caesar's Legion is worse, and the NCR is every incompetent democracy with a slide of Bush-hatred. The fact that you get to be King of Vegas and you get to throw that dorky NCR general off the dam after killing Lanius and maybe Caesar is just icing on the cake.

Even then, it's sort of a "kinda" situation. Sure Goodsprings gets fucked and Primm might get choked out a bit but the rest of the NCR endings are unilaterally positive for everyone in the region. Novac stays secure, the brotherhood gets a new lease on life, the Strip opens up a bit, the boomers end their isolation and even the Great Khans and the Followers are allowed to form a new empire and a new beginning. Compare that to the other endings where everyone gets enslaved (Legion), alternatively killed or ignored (House), or the same thing happens but shittier (Independent) and the NCR good karma endings really shine through Even if it was a clusterfuck to get there.

 

[Bezmenov]

Talking about the first Fallout got me playing through again. Just finished the first one with a ridiculously OP melee build. Still holds up pretty well after all this time, I only wish I had installed the 1.3.5 patch and the Fixt mod to make the game a little more tolerable. Companions are straight dogshit by endgame. Starting up a FO2 run now, same build.

 

[Crevasse-hole]

I fucking love that one anon who keeps coming in with

>Welcome to our *little* ENCLAVE
and then says FO76's bad reputation was because of "new Vegas redditor"

I love how its resulted in other "black sheep" games being praised like this:

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Even then, it's sort of a "kinda" situation. Sure Goodsprings gets fucked and Primm might get choked out a bit but the rest of the NCR endings are unilaterally positive for everyone in the region. Novac stays secure, the brotherhood gets a new lease on life, the Strip opens up a bit, the boomers end their isolation and even the Great Khans and the Followers are allowed to form a new empire and a new beginning. Compare that to the other endings where everyone gets enslaved (Legion), alternatively killed or ignored (House), or the same thing happens but shittier (Independent) and the NCR good karma endings really shine through Even if it was a clusterfuck to get there.

The thing is, it is a clusterfuck to get there. I remember when I went for that ending, I had all the gold from the Sierra Madre before I did all the sidequests for the NCR, which included doing all the Brotherhood of Steel sidequests and getting them to side with the NCR. By the end, I barely had 100K caps to my name, and after I bought ammo for the final firefight, I was a pauper.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

I love how its resulted in other "black sheep" games being praised like this:
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DS2 is nowhere near as bad as people pretend that it is, it has its own problems but it's a really decent that has some real improvements over the first game

Also it doesn't require you to grind 20+ hours offline to get plat like DS3 does fuck that shit

 

[Juke and Jam]

I posted this before the roll back, it's pretty much explains the creative process on why there's a mass effect-like speech system in Fallout 4

I don't mind Fallout 4, the guns and crafting is ok but the story is pretty weak.

Emil couldn't write his way out of a fucking paperbag. The hack got where he is solely via connections and good timing. Having him give a speech on storytelling is like asking a blind 3-year-old to describe colors.

 

[Ita Mori]

Seeing the current state of the world, I don't think Robert House will be able to save his city of sin in this timeline.

 

[wopirish]

On another note, anyone ever play through Fusion City rising mod or whatever the name was? I remember making it part way through before I personally couldn't take it anymore. Between the wildly inconsistent writing giving off a OC donotsteal vibe in some places.

 

[Mecha-Jerkop]

I love how its resulted in other "black sheep" games being praised like this:
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KIND SIR FALLOUT 3 IS BEST GAME NEW VEGAS IS FOR THE REDDITOR YOU ARE THE REDDIT I AM THE 4CHAN

 

[Crevasse-hole]

KIND SIR FALLOUT 3 IS BEST GAME NEW VEGAS IS FOR THE REDDITOR YOU ARE THE REDDIT I AM THE 4CHAN

HOLY FUCKING KINO!

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I recently got back into Fallout 4 after reworking my mod load order to make the game look better. Mostly crisper textures, better lighting and atmospheric effects

 

[Ita Mori]

On another note, anyone ever play through Fusion City rising mod or whatever the name was? I remember making it part way through before I personally couldn't take it anymore. Between the wildly inconsistent writing giving off a OC donotsteal vibe in some places.

Not worth the ESP slot.
Specially not today. It had some good ideas but was buggy as hell and caused even more bugs and incompatibilities.

 

[DerKryptid]

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I have to admit I don't know in retrospect if this was really worth it or even a good use of my time, but I'm glad Ringo isn't really that good at caravan.


Before anyone asks why I have more hours on FO4, it's because I owned NV first on PS3 and that's what kept me from upgrading to the PC ver for a while. Combined with my PS3 time I must be surpassing FO4
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I always thought of New Vegas being more in the same vein as San Andreas personally. Where it was more culturally significant for a larger demographic of players. How GTA 5 does a few call backs to SA today (not as many call backs to GTA 4, but still). And the fact that it still remains a cultural staple today and has a somewhat active player base and modding community.


I'm actually one of those people who played FNV before 3. After playing all the DLCs of NV it set the bar pretty high and I actually found it a little difficult to analyze it independently as it's own work. Not saying it's bad just that it's hard to judge it upon it's own merits without comparing it back to something you've previously experienced.


It's probably a natural reoccurring phenomenon that happens every so often where someone stirs the shit and it devolves into a fight. Usually whenever I do notice anyone making videos shit talking the other it's usually one of those fallout meme channels.


If you don't want to go through all that to get power armor training. You can collect all the holotapes from the dead paladins (I grab one from the centaur pit from Black Mountain and REPCONN HQ on my shortcut to the Strip and then NAFB). And then hand them all to Hardin after reading about the Chain that Binds. Then just kill the Van Graffs by being an incompetent bouncer and letting that one guy in.

TBH I don't like power armor all that much. I find that I prefer riot armor (or combat armor for early game) as it's lighter and can be repaired more easily/cheaply. Unless that is I'm playing a tank build.

>not having 157 hours on fallout tactics

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

The thing is, it is a clusterfuck to get there. I remember when I went for that ending, I had all the gold from the Sierra Madre before I did all the sidequests for the NCR, which included doing all the Brotherhood of Steel sidequests and getting them to side with the NCR. By the end, I barely had 100K caps to my name, and after I bought ammo for the final firefight, I was a pauper.

I was able to get it together after stealing only 3 gold bars dude. Idk what to say.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Someone here before the rollback mentioned how it doesn't make sense that the Capital Wasteland isn't recovering like the west coast is, but it makes sense: the west coast is only recovering thanks to the efforts of the Vault Dweller and the Chosen One, eradicating threats like the Super Mutants and the Enclave, which in turn allowed the NCR to expand and grow. In the Capital Wasteland, there was no hero who helped the place recover prior to the Lone Wanderer, so it makes sense that it's still a mutant-infested shithole with the Enclave waiting in the wings.

Also, a lot of people keep complaining about how shoddy Bethesda's writing is, but that's kind of a double-standard, since Fallout 1 and 2 aren't necessarily literary masterpieces. At most, they're so-so stories, no better than say, the Skyrim Civil War in TES V or Fallout 4's story.

Fallout 1's story is just OK, it's your standard good hero fights bad guy who had ulterior motives for doing what he did, a trope that was all over the place in works from the 90s. Fallout 2 went off the deep end, making the remnants of the US government into outright Nazis while giving them the stupidest reasons for committing genocide. (Yes, Richardson, I'm sure a small bunker with 1000 people and some small bases out in the coast will be enough to rebuild humanity without you people dying out from inbreeding once you kill everyone.) Fallout 3 is just as basic, except the Enclave is actually more reasonable, with Colonel Autumn wanting to use water to recruit mutated wastelanders into the Enclave, while President Eden can't find anyone to help him with his genocide plans, so he recruits the player.

But yes, I do find it funny that a lot of old Fallout fans who worship Fallout 1 and 2 act like Bethesda can't write their way out of a paper bag, when the games they slobber over aren't necessarily literary masterpieces on the same vein as Knights of the Old Republic. True, Obsidian did write better games like New Vegas and KOTOR 2, but Fallout 1 and 2 are hardly at the same level, with Fallout 1's story being rather basic, and Fallout 2 just going full comedic with the American government becoming Nazis because "PATRIOTISM BAD".

I was able to get it together after stealing only 3 gold bars dude. Idk what to say.

The thing is, I'd spend so much money repairing my armor and my weapons after every sidequest. Especially when each NCR sidequest is punctuated by Legion shocktroops ambushing me with 12.7mm machine guns and heavy melee weapons. Then there were also the Brotherhood of Steel sidequests, and then I had to repair those weapons and armor that they give you in poor condition in the BoS and NCR safehouses.