Fallout: The Frontier - Done, and it's a hilarious shitshow

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I picked this up again just to see it through and man the Exiled NCR is so bizarrely written. Just in the main game they're supposed to be the default good guy choice or at least the lesser of two evils, but they are so much more violent and extreme than any of the factions in the base game including the Legion. And speaking of the Legion, Tiberius whathisname the Northern Legion leader is way more reasonable and considerably less genocide happy than General Blackthorne. You're almost obligated to side with the Crusaders or the Frost Legion because of how much of a dangerous psychopath Blackthorne is.

Wtf even is this writing?
It also shows how idiotic the devs are when they portray Blackthorne as marching south to end NCR's democracy as a good thing. They don't even try to draw parallels to how this is the equivalent of Caeser crossing the Rubicon and Blackthorne would ironically start the process of turning the NCR into an autocracy that Caeser's Legion would try to enforce via military conquest.
 
every Fallout 4 DLC except Far Harbor.
Not to derail the thread, but was Far Harbor written by another group of writers? Because it felt so different from the main game+other dlc; it actually had nuances and gray-grey morale; choices and consequences. I’ve genuinely loved this one.

As for Frontier, the only thing that made NCR line interesting is the fact, that if you side with them, they are fucked — now that’s some twist in rather blind we-good-go-fight-what-cost-hail-mailman. But I don’t think that part was intentional; that — and parallel with irl Caesar, which they failed to voice (or noticed).

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Not to derail the thread, but was Far Harbor written by another group of writers? Because it felt so different from the main game+other dlc; it actually had nuances and gray-grey morale; choices and consequences. I’ve genuinely loved this one.
Surprisingly it's actually written by the same people who wrote the main questline which tells us that Bethesda is absolutely capable of good writing and storytelling they're just really really fucking lazy.
 
Actually with the slave harbor add on and the TGspy cut which strips out a large portion of the beginning of the NCR campaign and the worst of the space station the mod is honesty ok. In terms of official content I'd say it's better than Mothership Zeta, Honest Hearts, and every Fallout 4 DLC except Far Harbor.
But is the spaceship plot still just a 1:1 copy of the begining of Wolfenstein: New Order tho?
 
But is the spaceship plot still just a 1:1 copy of the begining of Wolfenstein: New Order tho?
it is but the jumping puzzle, shitty boss fight against ARGUS, and a few of the shittier horror sequences are cut so it generally plays better. I still recommend the Legion or Crusaders quest lines over the NCR and TGSPY is a lunatic but if you're hell bent on playing the NCR campaign this is the best and least tedious way to play it.
 
Yeah him. Like yeah, if you take the lore breaking and horny stuff aside, they were competent mods. Maybe even good. But holy shit was he insufferable. He legit banned my main nexus account from viewing or downloading his mods simply because I said him being hostile to people who disagree with him was driving people away. And considering he has now left Nexus to make some other mod site that is bound to fail, I doubt I can ever get unbanned even if I wanted to.
Shame. Did he upload his work elsewhere? I was considering adding Outcasts/Remnants again to my load (though I've gotten all I want from Fuzion City and Valkyrie).

EDIT: It seems to still be up on Nexus. Guess he kept that one at least. Sorry to derail, will drop F4 talk.
 
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Surprisingly it's actually written by the same people who wrote the main questline which tells us that Bethesda is absolutely capable of good writing and storytelling they're just really really fucking lazy.
Far Harbor almost gave me some semblance of hope that Bethesda listened to the feedback, but then Nuka World showed that was just a fluke. Like APPARENTLY the current story content in 76 is competent, but idk if that's enough.
Sorry to derail, will drop F4 talk.

At this point this thread is the closest thing we have to Fallout modding autism as a whole, so I wouldn't worry about that.
 
I started to try this mod, of course I used a very very heavy modded game.

And uh I am not sure if it's because of the mods or frontier scripting being shit but uh.

here two screenshots of Armor bear tank fucking up pathfinding.
First one is it LITERALLY CLIMBING UP A FUCKING BUILDING.
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The second one is like 30 minutes after the first when I abandoned this braindead squad to check out a building, and when I came out THEY SOMEHOW ALL GOT STUCK UNDER RUBBLE.
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I know frontier is bad but jesus christ This can't just be overload of mods as a problem right?
 
I started to try this mod, of course I used a very very heavy modded game.

And uh I am not sure if it's because of the mods or frontier scripting being shit but uh.

here two screenshots of Armor bear tank fucking up pathfinding.
First one is it LITERALLY CLIMBING UP A FUCKING BUILDING.
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The second one is like 30 minutes after the first when I abandoned this braindead squad to check out a building, and when I came out THEY SOMEHOW ALL GOT STUCK UNDER RUBBLE.
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I know frontier is bad but jesus christ This can't just be overload of mods as a problem right?
This is honestly the first time I have seen something like this. They did once upon a time show a list of compatible mods, and it was basically incompatible with anything that wasn't just engine stability stuff.
 
This is honestly the first time I have seen something like this. They did once upon a time show a list of compatible mods, and it was basically incompatible with anything that wasn't just engine stability stuff.
It did sort itself after like another 45 minutes when armor bear found where it had to go after wondering around aimlessly, and me reloading a few saves.

Also fuck the part where the legion captures you at the end of act one bridge too far mission.

Walking as fast as I can, and this fuck with a stun baton is behind me going" DON'T STOP OR I WILL MAKE YOU CRAWL THE REST OF THE WAY" and beaning me in the back of the head. Problem is I am moving as fast as I can. I got fed up with his shit and kill and resurrected him by console so I wouldn't hear his stupid shit.
 
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Drive by necro-posting here, Rework is still dead very slowly somehow trudging along, here are its most recent updates besides the Tgspy spergout where he tried to burn the mod down and leave
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I took a look at their twitter to see if there was anything of note but the only major thing was this, mod is apparently "on a semi-hiatus" because some of its devs (afaik, the main coder guy is the Ukranian guy) are in a literal warzone
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thats pretty much about it, but the funni thing that caused me to try and check up and make an update on this shitshow, was this funni moment in the TTW discord

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Normally the TTW discord mods are defensive of the Frontier team since defending trannies from le evil sneed gives you some easy internet brownie points for doing nothing, so it was funny to see them actually shit on the retarded writer (apparently a woman, maybe a troon. tho considering by the fact that they dont a get a free pass then probably a woman) who wrote the Ghoul/Reader fanfics and blame all the questionable shit on her lmao (mind you, up until that point, many of the defence force have said "they were taken out of context")

This entire mod's aftermath has been a game of blame hot potato unless its at faggots for being faggots
EDIT: So, in my digging around twitter autism to see if there was anything else buried or interesting, i found some interesting autism
Meet the Sneedclave Anonymous twitter
Apparently, its an account for anonymous tips to be sent to from "Sneedclave" discord servers, apparently, a thing described by the tranny running this account
However, the person running this account has never seemingly posted any verifable info about any of these, neither image, or users, beyond this one interestingly retarded thread, seemingly detailing a convo between a random sneedclave member (no real proof)
There is also a supposed event where TK Mantis, the superhero-autist fag from Seattle that had drama with the project, was saying Nigga and other mean no-no autism in his discord, again no real proof
Also, the fandom link (why fandom, really nigga?) they used as a tip jar was apparantly banned and jannied for not being a relevant wiki
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All in all, its an interesting rabbithole of autism, my gut tells me that none of this was that true beyond that one discord drama autism, and the person running the account was retarded enough to fall to some somewhat obvious trolling attempts, since some of the "tips" sound extremely retardedly far fetched on purpose (in particular, the one tweet about a "staged RP discord meant to create fake screenshots" sounds really fucking retarded and gay-ops-ey for it to be true, the way the tweets are written just scream "i want to be funny" to me, but maybe im just autistic)

I could be very wrong and it turns out that suprise suprise, a 4chin discord turned out to be full of faggotry and more, but at this point who the fuck knows, its drama from 2021
 

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Drive by necro-posting here, Rework is still dead very slowly somehow trudging along, here are its most recent updates besides the Tgspy spergout where he tried to burn the mod down and leave
I took a look at their twitter to see if there was anything of note but the only major thing was this, mod is apparently "on a semi-hiatus" because some of its devs (afaik, the main coder guy is the Ukranian guy) are in a literal warzone
thats pretty much about it, but the funni thing that caused me to try and check up and make an update on this shitshow, was this funni moment in the TTW discord

Normally the TTW discord mods are defensive of the Frontier team since defending trannies from le evil sneed gives you some easy internet brownie points for doing nothing, so it was funny to see them actually shit on the retarded writer (apparently a woman, maybe a troon. tho considering by the fact that they dont a get a free pass then probably a woman) who wrote the Ghoul/Reader fanfics and blame all the questionable shit on her lmao (mind you, up until that point, many of the defence force have said "they were taken out of context")

This entire mod's aftermath has been a game of blame hot potato unless its at faggots for being faggots
EDIT: So, in my digging around twitter autism to see if there was anything else buried or interesting, i found some interesting autism
Meet the Sneedclave Anonymous twitter
Apparently, its an account for anonymous tips to be sent to from "Sneedclave" discord servers, apparently, a thing described by the tranny running this account
However, the person running this account has never seemingly posted any verifable info about any of these, neither image, or users, beyond this one interestingly retarded thread, seemingly detailing a convo between a random sneedclave member (no real proof)
There is also a supposed event where TK Mantis, the superhero-autist fag from Seattle that had drama with the project, was saying Nigga and other mean no-no autism in his discord, again no real proof
Also, the fandom link (why fandom, really nigga?) they used as a tip jar was apparantly banned and jannied for not being a relevant wiki
All in all, its an interesting rabbithole of autism, my gut tells me that none of this was that true beyond that one discord drama autism, and the person running the account was retarded enough to fall to some somewhat obvious trolling attempts, since some of the "tips" sound extremely retardedly far fetched on purpose (in particular, the one tweet about a "staged RP discord meant to create fake screenshots" sounds really fucking retarded and gay-ops-ey for it to be true, the way the tweets are written just scream "i want to be funny" to me, but maybe im just autistic)

I could be very wrong and it turns out that suprise suprise, a 4chin discord turned out to be full of faggotry and more, but at this point who the fuck knows, its drama from 2021
I don't know whats more sad. People taking sneedclave thing beyond the HaHa overused funny joke to mock frontier and making supposedly real discords out of it. Or What ever the hell Sneedclave Anonymous is.
 
I don't know whats more sad. People taking sneedclave thing beyond the HaHa overused funny joke to mock frontier and making supposedly real discords out of it. Or What ever the hell Sneedclave Anonymous is.
Probably a tranny psyop to get sympathy for The Frontier and/or make people who where against it like Mantis look as bad as possible
 
Probably a tranny psyop to get sympathy for The Frontier and/or make people who where against it like Mantis look as bad as possible
im honestly edging to that camp, it didnt get any attention at all and it was all too on the nose (again, with no screenshots at all beyond 1 discord convo) , most of these tweets just seem like a "trust me bro"
On the other hand, i can kinda see how some /v/ weens looking to take part of the new sanctioned punching bag would do the zoomer autist thing and circlejerk in discords all day, but there is only 1 real image proving that so yeah, not fully convinced its wholly that
 
I don't know whats more sad. People taking sneedclave thing beyond the HaHa overused funny joke to mock frontier and making supposedly real discords out of it. Or What ever the hell Sneedclave Anonymous is.
Nah it's sadder that they're still coping and seething over something that has hardly been relevant since the weeks after the mod released.
 
Nah it's sadder that they're still coping and seething over something that has hardly been relevant since the weeks after the mod released.
Quite a few low to mid tier gaming YouTubers got a lot of attention making fun of The Frontier and are desperately clinging to it long after it stopped being a meme. Which is in my opinion even sadder than The Frontier devs themselves.

Like yea it's really dumb, pointlessly edgy, and everyone is written to be an absolute maniac but do you really need twenty videos on it?
 
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Quite a few low to mid tier gaming YouTubers got a lot of attention making fun of The Frontier and are desperately clinging to it long after it stopped being a meme. Which is in my opinion even sadder than The Frontier devs themselves.

Like yea it's really dumb, pointlessly edgy, and everyone is written to be an absolute maniac but do you really need twenty videos on it?
The ones I remember moved on to make Fallout meme stuff, like Clanky4.
 
What are your opinions on New California? Also I figure after the Frontier fiasco and Nexus fucking modders up for pennies (why not use anything else you dumb fuckers?) modding in NV is done for.
 
What are your opinions on New California? Also I figure after the Frontier fiasco and Nexus fucking modders up for pennies (why not use anything else you dumb fuckers?) modding in NV is done for.
New California was great. A new story, some fun traipsing around San Bernardino and a bunch of crazy bullshit to do. Sure, the plot twist kind of breaks the lore but I had enough fun playing raider politics and shooting Super Mutants.
 
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