Fan theories you like or hate

[Dysnomia]

I hate all “it was this character’s imagination/coma dream/dying dream” theories because you could apply that to literally any work of fiction.

It worked for Newhart. But I think the reason why is because it was a fun little homage to The Bob Newhart Show. It was a surprise ending that connected the two shows together.

I'm not sure why on Earth they chose to make the entirety of St. Elsewhere in the head of Tommy the autismo. Perhaps they were unsure how to end it and decided since there were crossovers it was just a product of Tommy's autistic imagination. Personally I think that he's allowed to watch way too much TV since he's autistic and it likely keeps him quiet. The script says that Tommy just stares at the snow globe all day. But maybe he's really paying very close attention to what's being said on TV and no one has picked up on this because of his assumed level of functionality. Or maybe the snow globe means nothing at all. They just needed an ending.

There are at least two other pieces of media that I've seen that use the snow globe in a similar way. There's the cursed snow globe in Friday The 13th The Series that takes you to the house inside it as though it were real. And the ending to Cemetery Man where the characters are shown inside a snow globe after finding out that the road leads to nowhere and there's only a deep chasm beyond. Maybe Cemetery Man is also part of the Tommy Westphall universe.

One of my main issues with fan theories are that they tend to go too far and then get retarded. You need to know when to hit the brakes if you want your fan theory to hold even an ounce of water.

There's this pile of weaponized autism:
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But my favorite is Walter Paisley Cinematic Universe.

Tommy Westphall is the progenitor of the original merge.

 

[grump]

I know it doesn't really work out but I always liked the idea that Bond was a codename and all the movies happened in the same timeline. Connery Bond is the earliest Bond we see. The female M's tenure overlaps with Brosnan Bond and Craig Bond. Brosnan Bond was at the agency before she came in so they're of more equal status and hence Brosnan's flippant treatment of her while Craig Bond came in under her so he is more submissive. It works either way but it feels cooler that she was annoyed with wrestling with one legendary agent and now gets to mold another on her terms. Also the newer bonds have the pressure to live up to their legendary predecessors.

 

[Dysnomia]

Speaking of Tommy, remember Tommy from Martin? The running joke was no one knew what Tommy did for a living. He would often mention random things about his job and Martin would reply with "Tommy you ain't got no job!"

Many fans thought he was a spy. Or possibly a criminal like a drug dealer. It was revealed early on that he was a youth councilor. But everyone seems to have Mandela Effected themselves into not remembering that his job was revealed in those episodes. So it became a running joke that no one knew his job and Martin didn't believe he had one. I think his job may have been officially confirmed again in a last season episode. But it's been a few years since I've seen Martin I'm not sure.

A lot of his job related scenes were really ambiguous or downright bizarre though. I saw a mention of him happening to have a blowtorch to get Gina's head out of the bedframe and it was because he needed it for his job. Personally I think it's more fun to think he was a spy. Youth councilor was just a cover.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Speaking of Tommy, remember Tommy from Martin? The running joke was no one knew what Tommy did for a living. He would often mention random things about his job and Martin would reply with "Tommy you ain't got no job!"

Many fans thought he was a spy. Or possibly a criminal like a drug dealer. It was revealed early on that he was a youth councilor. But everyone seems to have Mandela Effected themselves into not remembering that his job was revealed in those episodes. So it became a running joke that no one knew his job and Martin didn't believe he had one. I think his job may have been officially confirmed again in a last season episode. But it's been a few years since I've seen Martin I'm not sure.

A lot of his job related scenes were really ambiguous or downright bizarre though. I saw a mention of him happening to have a blowtorch to get Gina's head out of the bedframe and it was because he needed it for his job. Personally I think it's more fun to think he was a spy. Youth councilor was just a cover.

Reminds me of the fan theory for The Room that Mark was an under cover cop. Apparently the actor, Greg, came up with that idea on set and asked Tommy Wiseau to include it but was shut down, and found it hilarious that other people came up with it too.

 

[Valstrax]

I like the theory that the Pokemon games are told from the perspective of an unreliable narrator, specifically a kid who is really fucking into Pokemon.

All of the details that don’t make sense about the world kind of fade away with this perspective. No one drives because the kid only cares about walking where the wild Pokemon are. The cities are tiny and the only buildings are ones that have to do with Pokemon. Even the houses that are there are ones where the protagonist gets an item or talks about Pokemon.

The brutal realities of a functioning ecosystem aren’t addressed (beyond small tidbits in the first game) because a kid doesn’t really want to think about how Pokemon are out there dying and eating each other.

The main criminal syndicates may be guilty of all kinds of real world heinous crimes but the only thing that the protagonist fixates on is the fact they steal Pokemon. Truly the worst crime of all.

The main character stumbles into the epic scale main plot whose details may be overblown because no one else cares about Pokemon quite as much to spend every waking moment catching and training while sticking their nose into every Pokemon related disturbance they can find.

A lot of this can be chalked up to game design targeting a specific audience, but I’m fond of the idea of the games taking place in a more realistic world warped into a cutesy caricature through the lens of a Pokemon-obsessed turbo-autist.

That really explains why the only thing people in the Pokemon world seem to talk or care about are Pokemon.

 

[Strange Wilderness]

Inspector Gadget had a few fan theories about the true identity of Dr. Claw.

One is that he is the original Gadget. After being injured in an accident and presumed dead a robotic duplicate was created to replace him and programed to believe it was the real gadget. However due to it being an experiment/ prototype the robot Gadget is a bumbling moron. Meanwhile the real mangled Gadget takes on the persona of Dr. Claw to destroy the robot that stole his name and life.

Another is that Chief Quimby and Claw are the same person, Quimby wanting to maintain his high ranking position while at the same time trying to get rid of Gadget for constantly throwing exploding messages back in his face.

Yet another is that Claw is really a goblin-esque creature operating a set of arms.

 

[cactus]

Inspector Gadget had a few fan theories about the true identity of Dr. Claw.

One is that he is the original Gadget. After being injured in an accident and presumed dead a robotic duplicate was created to replace him and programed to believe it was the real gadget. However due to it being an experiment/ prototype the robot Gadget is a bumbling moron. Meanwhile the real mangled Gadget takes on the persona of Dr. Claw to destroy the robot that stole his name and life.

Another is that Chief Quimby and Claw are the same person, Quimby wanting to maintain his high ranking position while at the same time trying to get rid of Gadget for constantly throwing exploding messages back in his face.

Yet another is that Claw is really a goblin-esque creature operating a set of arms.

Okay, but do you like it or hate it?

 

[William Murderface]

It worked for Newhart. But I think the reason why is because it was a fun little homage to The Bob Newhart Show. It was a surprise ending that connected the two shows together.

I think it works because Newhart (the 1980s show) was so bizarre and Bob was basically the only normal one there, it was such an offbeat and unexpected ending that somehow still fit, and the original Bob Newhart Show was so loved. It was perfectly fine that it invalidated however many years Newhart was on just to see Bob and Emily one more time. Plus we didn't have the internet spoiling it and people saying how much the ending sucked and all of the stuff that the internet allows everyone to bitch about.

If we want an ending that did leave a lot of people feeling upset about, look at The Wonder Years and how many people were just convinced Kevin and Winnie were bound to be together and were angry that they just stayed friends.

 

[recanman]

I like the idea of Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes being part of the simulations Raiden did before MGS2, either that or Snake and Otacon retelling the events of MGS1 to Sunny, which explains the over-the-top nature of everything in it.

 

[Strange Wilderness]

Okay, but do you like it or hate it?

I guess "hate it" if I had to settle into either camp, but my thoughts on these theories would be I disagree with them. Making Dr. Claw the original Gadget is too grimdark for the tone the show was going for which was a lighthearted parody of spy fiction for kids. It was a kid friendly version of Get Smart meets James Bond meets the Pink Panther. Making Dr. Claw the original Gadget out for revenge is against his original concept as a comedic knock-off of Blofeld, (criminal mastermind with a hidden face, short tempered with his henchmen, has a cat that he abuses). At the same time its the only theory that has any teeth and I can see a dark and gritty reboot of Inspector Gadget implementing this theory as the big twist even if it would be a terrible idea.

Claw being Quimby is impossible since a few episodes saw Claw viewing Quimby on his screen confirming they aren't the same individual or Quimbys actions being the opposite of Claws goals to get rid of Gadget. One episode had Claw hire a master of disguise to infiltrate an INTERPOOL meeting disguised as Gadget and Quimby ordered them to arrest the imposter instead of Gadget, (because Gadget had wacked him in the head with a hammer and only the real Gadget could be that clumsy and retarded). Its just a funny theory making fun of how Gadget would carelessly throw the exploding messages back in the Chiefs face.

The goblin theory is just funny shitposting from one of the creators poking fun at how we never see Claws face or body.

Spoiler: Spoiler

 

[Town Drunk]

Nothing strange or weird actually happens in Courage the Cowardly Dog. He's just a normal dog over reacting to things, because he's just a dog.

Typical unreliable narrator, where we see it from his perspective.

I had a dog that hated hats, (rescue, we theorized someone with a hat abused him).

 

[Sooty Soot]

Sopranos: That it was Butch who arranged the hit on Tony. Patsy's brother never gets brought up again after Patsy's introduced to the crew, and Paulie would be whacked if he took over since he's a loose cannon. Even Patsy and Paulie teaming up is a little unbelievable to me because of Patsy never bringing up his brother ever again.

 

[William Murderface]

Sopranos: That it was Butch who arranged the hit on Tony. Patsy's brother never gets brought up again after Patsy's introduced to the crew, and Paulie would be whacked if he took over since he's a loose cannon. Even Patsy and Paulie teaming up is a little unbelievable to me because of Patsy never bringing up his brother ever again.

Spoiler

I've always figured it was Butch who ordered Tony get popped. Tony rubbed a lot of people wrong over the years, Butch would definitely be the big winner once Phil was out of the way because Little Carmine wanted out and none of NY's other captains were big enough in the show to step up, and once Tony was gone Butch would just absorb what was left of the De Meo family or kill off anyone who resisted. Worse case scenario, an already dead Phil gets the blame for Tony because at that point who is going to ask questions? Just chalk it up to a contract that was already in action. He doesn't need Patsy or Paulie or anyone else involved.

 

[JesusChristDenton]

For Halo, I kind of like the theory that a few hundred years prior to the games there was a mass outbreak of some kind of zombie virus. Pretty sure it originated from a voice line in Halo Reach. Another one has to do with all Bungie protagonists having the "hero soul" or something along those lines. Basically stating that the protagonists of Bungie's games all share the exact same soul that keeps getting reincarnated as a great hero in different worlds, though you only really hear about it in the context of Marathon and Halo.

As states by others in this thread, the "IT WAS ALL IN LE HECCIN HEAD" theories are awful.

An interesting theory for Happy Tree Friends is that the characters are all in-universe paid actors given money to die in painful and over the top ways before getting resurrected after the fact.

 

[cybertoaster]

None, its always autistic shit made up by people with little knowledge, like for example most LOGH fans think Rudolph=space hitler and Reinhard=space napoleon, they don't get that the first is Charlemagne plus racism and the second Alexander, and that other elements of the story are references to Japan's own domestic issues at the time of writing because their knowledge of history comes from H channel and clickbait.

Bill used to be a star football player, now he's fat, alone, divorced and depressed most of the time.

That trope is always pushed by writers who still hold a grudge against the jocks decades after school. In reality most jocks and bullies do better on average than their victims.

This is one of the only theories that I fully believe tbh. The way Jar-Jar's mouth moved in-sync with other characters while he lurked in the background had to be animated specifically, since the actor's mo-cap only covered Jar-Jar's body movements. When they found him fucking around with the ship, what exactly was he doing? They never really explained. His extreme "luck" during the battle scenes wasn't luck at all, it was just carefully calculated to look like luck. The way he stood right next to Chancellor Palpatine at the end of Episode I, and the way he waved his hands around in Episode III when he convinced the senate to elect Papa Palpatine to be Chancellor Supreme. The "look at this dumb fucking muppet but wait, it's actually a Jedi master" was done in the orig-trig, and Lucas planned to do it again, but with a Sith this time around (it's like poetry; it rhymes) but after Jar-Jar received so much backlash, Lucas pussied out, which is why Dooku kind of appeared from nowhere; Jar-Jar's big reveal would have been in Episode II, and would have been the greatest reveal of cinematic history

There's ZERO chance of him coming up with such a twist, Jarjar was just a stupid character, people forget Lucas has a story of making such dumb characters, he's the one who pushed for ewoks to be in return of the jedi, and its only because someone tardwrangled him that Luke didn't end up being a lizard.

Metal Gear Solid 2 is a simulation, it can actually explain a few things about the game itself like for example with difference of the first Solid game, Sons of liberty is just plain crazy. You have things like Vamp being able to run on water, Fortune "luck" not existing until it does, Ocelot being possessed by the ghost of Liquid, Raiden taking down multiple MG Rays, etc.

It was classic Kojima autism, MGS1 was also autistic and cheesy af.

 

[Grub]

I remember hearing one theory that Disney's Aladdin actually takes place in a post apocalyptic hellscape rather than the past as we've been lead to believe.

According to this theory, Genie's constant references of 20th century pop culture is him recalling the past, rather than referencing things that haven't happened. The theory also explains that talking/anthropomorphic animals like Iago and Abu are likely the result of future genetics experimentation.

I read a duology with a similar story. The first book starts out seemingly set in a fantasy world with mythological creatures like satyrs and shit, then you find out it's actually set in the far future after an apocalypse and the mythological creatures were created using genetic engineering because people thought it would be cool to create fantasy creatures, and then it takes an even more ridiculous twist because you find out it is actually set in the past and the main characters end up becoming Adam and Eve. They weren't the best books but they weren't bad. Entertaining anyway.

I can never remember their names or who wrote them. They're from the 70's or 80's. All I remember is one of them has a bright yellow cover with the silhouette of a satyr on it.

 

[Epikusername4]

Sopranos: That it was Butch who arranged the hit on Tony. Patsy's brother never gets brought up again after Patsy's introduced to the crew, and Paulie would be whacked if he took over since he's a loose cannon. Even Patsy and Paulie teaming up is a little unbelievable to me because of Patsy never bringing up his brother ever again.

i really like the theory that the dream in "calling all cars" is his personal hell with ralphie the devil leading him there

 

[Wot Zit Too Yah0996]

God of War: I dislike the theory of it being Athena who spoke to Odin through the Rift, since that was not long after he and his brothers killed Ymir, and he was a young man at the time. This would have been hundreds, even thousands of years before God of War III, where Athena was haunting Kratos, and guiding (and manipulating him) in his mission to kill Zeus. They only got the Athena thing from the Greek-sounding writing on the Mask of Creation, which Atreus translates for Odin.

 

[Sooty Soot]

i really like the theory that the dream in "calling all cars" is his personal hell with ralphie the devil leading him there

I prefer the Devil being Tony B in the dream Tony has while in his coma, with the briefcase either representing his identity (With Tony giving it up leading to either permanent memory loss or him remaining in a coma forever), or his soul, with him giving it up resulting in his death.

 

[Epikusername4]

I prefer the Devil being Tony B in the dream Tony has while in his coma, with the briefcase either representing his identity (With Tony giving it up leading to either permanent memory loss or him remaining in a coma forever), or his soul, with him giving it up resulting in his death.

i see that animal (cant even say his name) closer to being the ferryman on the river styx with the briefcase being the coin you need to cross over. ralphie fits better as the devil because of how much of a pos he is, the references to sympathy for the devil in "whoever did this", the goat pie-o-my had as a friend in her stable and him tempting jackie jr into the mob life leading him to hell.