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BIG DADDY said:
SPARKLETWAT said:
Chris and his asinine "problems" are NOTHING. :alog:
I actually disagree here a little. I don't think it's necessarily fair to compare one person's problems or sufferings to another's since the pain and emotions you feel are relative.
It absolutely is fair, and a valid means to compare them is based on how easy the problems are to solve. Chris could easily fix just about all of his life problems if he would only admit that he, himself is the source of his misery. That family who lost their daughter will NEVER get her back, no matter what they do.
I think the problem of not having friends and then finding out the friends you thought you had weren't real friends is a serious and emotionally devastating one.
That's not a problem. It's a life lesson that Chris could learn from to improve his lot if only he would. But instead he just uses it as an opportunity to importune sympathy and ass-pats. Chris' only actual problem is himself, and he won't ever try to fix that.

Alec Benson Leary said:
compared to his future, we really can describe his current state as "charmed" and "privileged", without irony.
Not just compared to his future, but compared to many alternative presents which he might have found himself in had he not been fortunate that other people have been almost unaccountably lenient with him. Whatever very unhappy future Chris ultimately finds himself in is a future he is creating for himself. The fact that he has any quality of life whatsoever right now is only due to dumb luck and misplaced kindness saving him from the consequences of his actions despite him.

Marvin said:
Heh, no, Chris is very concerned about his post-Barb future. He just can't conceive of a plan. Or, well, he has thought of plans, just not one that keeps him out of jail or on the streets. He's pretty much convinced that he's fucked and can't think of any way to stop his future from happening.
All of Chris' plans depend on someone else, preferably a sexy boyfriend free girl, swooping in to rescue him. He's finally coming to realize (at least on some level) that is not going to happen. Instead of coming up with some new plan where he rescues himself, he's only whining harder about his life. He cannot (or will not) conceive of fixing his own problems himself because that would require first accepting responsibility for his own life.
 
Marvin said:
Heh, no, Chris is very concerned about his post-Barb future. He just can't conceive of a plan. Or, well, he has thought of plans, just not one that keeps him out of jail or on the streets. He's pretty much convinced that he's fucked and can't think of any way to stop his future from happening.

It's so bizarre that someone who is so full of himself can think so little of his abilities. Chris holds himself to be a superior being, yet at the same time to be completely helpless.
 
IgnorantBystander said:
Marvin said:
DangDirtyTrolls said:
It astounds me just how oblivious Chris remains about his future. He has experienced losing a parent 'unexpectedly', he is acutely aware of how lonely he is with only Barb for company and he has acknowledged that his mother is suffering from health issues. Yet he is as idle as ever and any mention of this is just met with a rebuttal about how he is too stressed and/or depressed to do anything (:_( It's not as if the universe is going to wait until Chris is good and ready...
Heh, no, Chris is very concerned about his post-Barb future. He just can't conceive of a plan. Or, well, he has thought of plans, just not one that keeps him out of jail or on the streets. He's pretty much convinced that he's fucked and can't think of any way to stop his future from happening.

This makes me sad. Yes, he's done & said lousy things. But I can't imagine not having any kind of hope or plan for my future. It's awful that there's not one person who can sit down calmly with Chris and say "Ok, one day, you are going to have to fend for yourself, and so let's try to figure out some tool and strategies before that day comes." Christ, even Anna, the one person who might actually get him to listen, says "He just needs a girlfriend!" She makes me sick.

Chris had potential. That's the worst part of all of this. He managed to learn to read, write, drive a car, get a CADD degree, and if he had someone actively working with him on life skills, he could be living independently today. Since PVCC, it seems like a combination of trolling, living with Barb, losing Bob, and his own attitudes and prejudices have combined to create a horrible cycle. Because he's so isolated, he has no idea how to interact with people, so when he does, he fails, and he becomes more isolated, and even worse at interaction, and it just keeps repeating.

I really, truly, from-the-bottom-of-my-heart hope that when Barb dies, someone intervenes and gets him in some kind of social services program.

It's true, when you think about his situation, you can't help but be terrified at how dark his future is and that right now, the only ray of light in his life right now is Barb. Considering his mental age, I liken him to a young child who is aware that he's about the become an orphan and has no idea what to do outside of trying to get adopted by foster parent. It's deeply depressing and makes me feel some sympathy for him in that regard.

Although I also feel that, unlike Chris, an actual child would have matured faster and a hell of a lot better than him when facing hardship.
 
IgnorantBystander said:
I really, truly, from-the-bottom-of-my-heart hope that when Barb dies, someone intervenes and gets him in some kind of social services program.

Nobody helps creepy, middle-aged manchildren that are aggressively anti-social and belligerent just because they're alone with autism. Only orphaned autist children garner than level of sympathy fromm society.

Really, Chris is laying down in his own bed. He made it, let him have it. His life's aspects are completely the fault of his own doing.
 
random_pickle said:
Well, this thread just got hell of a lot more depressing.

Depressing, yes. Unexpected? Nope. This was the only possible outcome for Chris if he stubbornly remained on this path.

I never imagined Chris actually thinking about future plans in a non-childish way.

The signs are so apparent that even Chris' Reality Distortion Field cannot ignore/redefine the input. The sheer logistics alone of handling the funeral arrangements of a deceased family member really can make a person consider their own mortality.

Now I feel legitimently sorry for him.

I'm sure he'll say something typical that will change your mind soon enough.
 
Captain Cid said:
IgnorantBystander said:
I really, truly, from-the-bottom-of-my-heart hope that when Barb dies, someone intervenes and gets him in some kind of social services program.

Nobody helps creepy, middle-aged manchildren that are aggressively anti-social and belligerent just because they're alone with autism. Only orphaned autist children garner than level of sympathy fromm society.

Really, Chris is laying down in his own bed. He made it, let him have it. His life's aspects are completely the fault of his own doing.

I disagree with the part I bolded. Chris's life aspects are completely the fault of his parents' failings. The fact that he was able to function well enough to accomplish the things he did means that he COULD have learned to be a lot more self-sufficient, empathetic, and socialized. Instead of getting him help, and pushing him towards independence when he was young enough for it to have made a difference, his parents circled the wagons and sued anyone who tried to intervene. Chris never stood a chance.

Also, as someone who used to work in a crisis unit for mentally ill adults, yes, there are programs that include the anti-social, belligerent, smelly, middle-aged, fat, ugly and creepy. I worked with some of them myself. If a person can not take care of themselves for whatever reason - physical disabilities, mental illness, developmental delays (including autism), there is usually some kind of social program in place for them. My best-case scenario is that when Barb dies, Chris is assigned to a social worker who might be able to undo some of the awful things Bob & Barb did to him.
 
homerbeoulve said:
Also, I find it odd that he didn't thank the SSDI for keeping them both afloat.

That's probably because some of it is going to Snyder, so in Chris's mind, the tugboat currently isn't keeping him and Barb afloat.
 
trombonista said:
homerbeoulve said:
Also, I find it odd that he didn't thank the SSDI for keeping them both afloat.

That's probably because some of it is going to Snyder, so in Chris's mind, the tugboat currently isn't keeping him and Barb afloat.

Or the tugboat has been a constant for the last ten years, so Chris considers it a given. No thanks necessary.
 
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