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Fuck I really, really hate line-by-line post digestion responses. I don't know how to reply because you've misinterpreted everything I've said.

You personally being "not angry" doesn't change how the tone of other people's posts. I wasn't directly responding to you and thought I made that clear in the way the message was constructed, but I guess that's not the case as you've responded as if what I said was as a direct attack. I get the feeling that some people are either extremely happy to see Chris suffer financially or extremely mad to see him sell things. Either is ridiculous. Pessimism is one thing, actively wanting to see Chris fail is masturbatory.

The best way to handle this "eBay Saga" is to watch and see how it turns out. I'm tired of seeing people so emotionally charged from something so inconsequential. Chris' personal success or failure doesn't affect you. People should know by now Chris is an unreliable, literally retarded person and if you want to throw money at him for a piece of Sonichu you should know that your purchase may not be honored in the way you expect, or at all. That's not a defense of Chris, that's just how it is.

My point was: taking this shit to heart and continuing to let yourself be surprised and let down or enraged by what Chris does in the year two thousand mother fucking fourteen is just as retarded as selling crayon drawings on eBay, and it gives me proxy embarrassment.
 
If anyone has anything to feel mad or upset about, it's that Chris spent the money he received from the commissions before his half of the transaction was complete. The money that was supposed to cover the "free shipping" was used up on something else, and Chris begged people to buy more so he could mail the pieces that had already been paid for.
 
Varis said:
If anyone has anything to feel mad or upset about, it's that Chris spent the money he received from the commissions before his half of the transaction was complete. The money that was supposed to cover the "free shipping" was used up on something else, and Chris begged people to buy more so he could mail the pieces that had already been paid for.
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I'm sorry Chris cheated you of your hard-earned money
 
I'm not sure if this warrants a post or just PM.
Null said:
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Attack? What?

You mentioned that Chris isn't smart enough to understand the simple concept of diminishing returns. I disagree with that. I think it's more that he doesn't want to believe such things apply to him. For all that he's stupid, Chris isn't quite that stupid, and he has been repeatedly warned, by Kim and others, not to rely on future sales (especially when he threatens not to ship purchased items). He doesn't want to listen. Chris does eventually learn such things; he's not still demanding $2000 for his artwork. It's just that it takes a few iterations for him to finally abandon the more comfortable, though false, visions of reality that he wants to believe (like people will continue to buy autographed photos forever at $20 a pop).

To that you responded that you see people getting angry over Chris' sales and being happy to see him suffer financially. You've made that complaint before, but I don't really see much of that here. I have seen incredulity over his sales (who would have thought there were that many people willing to pay $20 for a picture of Chris?) , but that's mostly directed at his customers, not Chris himself. There are some new members who haven't yet learned to relax (most of whom don't stick around long), and also the occasional "DIE CHRIS :alog:" posts, but I think everyone knows those are meant to be humorous (whether they actually are is something else entirely). Is this something you're getting from /cwc/ or from spergs who get banned and deleted before we ever see their posts?

Yes, people are frustrated and disappointed with Chris, but that's not the same thing as being angry with him. And they aren't really frustrated about him buying legos. They are frustrated by him continually buying an unsustainable amount of legos and then lying about it. They are frustrated by him continually buying an unsustainable amount of legos and then claiming his financial problems are not his own making. The legos themselves are almost incidental.

I think that a lot of the frustration with Chris comes from a common desire here to see him do better with his life, not a desire to see him suffer. People who want to see him suffer wouldn't be so frustrated by his self destructive behavior. Most people are generally fairly sympathetic in their outlook. I think most of us would really like to see Chris somehow miraculously manage to get his shit together and fix his life, if only for the sheer novelty value than for nothing else. The "Chris Grows the Fuck Up Saga" would be the best saga of all. But even that frustration is pretty mild at this point (or it should be). It's more like the ongoing frustration of an ex-Buccaneers fan, than, say, the immediate frustrations of an aggrieved parent.

I absolutely agree with you that getting overly emotionally involved with Chris and his financial irresponsibility is a huge waste of brain chemicals, but I don't think that should preclude us from having an academic discussion of his finances (and his irresponsibility), including heated or humorous language. It's possible to talk about his behavior in depth without getting emotionally involved, and that's mostly what I see here, despite the occasionally charged language.

tl;dr: Why get mad about people getting mad? Because we ain't even mad¹.
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¹ Well, technically we're all mad here. We must be mad, otherwise we wouldn't have come here. But we're not angry.
 
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Sorry Chris. Fresh out of fucks to give.
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Chris wishes he were the boy who stuck his finger in the dyke, but he needs more money to be able to afford that. BUY HIS SHIT GUYS!
 
The Dude said:
Chris wishes he were the boy who stuck his finger in the dyke, but he needs more money to be able to afford that. BUY HIS SHIT GUYS!
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Damn straight. Eventually that dyke's gonna come down. And as everyone knows, the best dyke-building materiel is Lego. So BUY MORE before we all drown!!!

A-№1 said:
You mentioned that Chris isn't smart enough to understand the simple concept of diminishing returns. I disagree with that. I think it's more that he doesn't want to believe such things apply to him. For all that he's stupid, Chris isn't quite that stupid, and he has been repeatedly warned, by Kim and others, not to rely on future sales (especially when he threatens not to ship purchased items). He doesn't want to listen. Chris does eventually learn such things; he's not still demanding $2000 for his artwork. It's just that it takes a few iterations for him to finally abandon the more comfortable, though false, visions of reality that he wants to believe (like people will continue to buy autographed photos forever at $20 a pop).
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Wait. You mean there aren't a bunch of people going "Well for goodness sakes will you look at this! This picture of Christian is over a month old! I better hop right on that there Ebay machine and order a Fresh and Original Autographed picture by the Artist for this month too!"

Now that I read that back, I find it scary that Chris might actually think that....
 
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I actually feel bad for Chris, because he's not going to understand that first week of sales was only because he had never done commissions in over 10 years. He'll think that people are sabotaging his business, not that the demand was a very short lived ordeal destined to fade quickly. He's simply not smart enough to comprehend those economics.
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If what he said about selling mini figs is true he might get a pick-up on sales because it's a different media. If that happens he might learn that something different=new sales.
I predicted early September is when he'd start hitting weeks with 0 but it might be sooner. I kinda hoped he didn't think he could do this forever with sales staying constant from the first week, but Chris is Chris.
 
I agree with Alec though, when the Chandlers finally run out of money we need to stop bailing him out. It's one thing to be charitable when someone's house burns down, it's quite another to keep rewarding stupidity. If Chris and Barb will not take their situation seriously and stop buying toys and Goodwill hoarder shit then we should not be helping them. They are both grown ass people, and Barb especially should fucking know better. Sometimes you need to let someone fail before they learn to succeed. They are both addicts. Would you keep giving a junkie money if you knew they were going to go buy heroin instead of pay rent or buy food?
 
DeadMansHand said:
Wait. You mean there aren't a bunch of people going "Well for goodness sakes will you look at this! This picture of Christian is over a month old! I better hop right on that there Ebay machine and order a Fresh and Original Autographed picture by the Artist for this month too!"

Now that I read that back, I find it scary that Chris might actually think that....
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Chris views money in very abstract terms, as something that he's basically entitled to. Having found this new stream of revenue, he seems to think of it as something that's just going to keep on coming forever. The idea that people might not want to keep giving money they've worked for in exchange for something that serves no purpose, has no worth and will never increase in value is thinking beyond his capacity.
 
Null said:
Why are people angry over this?
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Most of us, if not all of us, have to work jobs that we by and large hate, at the cost of 40+ hours per week of our precious free time just to keep ourselves housed and fed. Chris made more off of his eBay shit in a week than a lot of people do in a month. Hell, 2 months when you figure in taxes... Do you not see why a lot of people would resent the fuck out of that?

Now, we all know that the ween gravy train that Fatty has been exploiting has derailed. He doesn't know that, and likely (certainly) will rage for time immemorial about da trolls who RUINED HIS EBAY LIFE AND PUT HIM OUT ON DA STREETS! Point being that I can't get upset over people being just a bit put out over Fatty's undeserved success at parting fools from their money when they have to work hard as fuck just to stay alive.
 
JULAY said:
Chris made more off of his eBay shit in a week than a lot of people do in a month. Hell, 2 months when you figure in taxes... Do you not see why a lot of people would resent the fuck out of that?
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When you factor in the years of public humiliation that made anyone interested in buying in the first place, it comes out to a surprisingly low hourly wage.
 
JULAY said:
Most of us, if not all of us, have to work jobs that we by and large hate, at the cost of 40+ hours per week of our precious free time just to keep ourselves housed and fed. Chris made more off of his eBay shit in a week than a lot of people do in a month. Hell, 2 months when you figure in taxes... Do you not see why a lot of people would resent the fuck out of that?

Now, we all know that the ween gravy train that Fatty has been exploiting has derailed. He doesn't know that, and likely (certainly) will rage for time immemorial about da trolls who RUINED HIS EBAY LIFE AND PUT HIM OUT ON DA STREETS! Point being that I can't get upset over people being just a bit put out over Fatty's undeserved success at parting fools from their money when they have to work hard as fuck just to stay alive.
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I wouldn't quantify anything Chris has done in his life as a success. Wow 2,000$ out of a life time of no employment, no family, and no real happiness. Its insignificant. Making 500$ per month after taxes entitles you to benefits anyways so why resent Chris at all? He is a mentally disabled man whose existence is at the whim of the same safety net helping other low to non income earners. I wouldn't want to trade places ever. Uncle Sam hits me up for 5 figures every year despite living abroad for nearly a decade and I still don't resent Chris sucking up money doing nothing.
 
Null said:
Why are people angry over this?
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I don't feel angry about Chris making money (I mean, the tugboat already meant that), but being in a tough economic spot, I do feel exasperated when he wastes it in the most pants-shittingly stupid way, specially when he'll need every red cent in the near future. His tard outburst are fun to watch, so I'm more amused than exasperated.
 
JULAY said:
Most of us, if not all of us, have to work jobs that we by and large hate, at the cost of 40+ hours per week of our precious free time just to keep ourselves housed and fed. Chris made more off of his eBay shit in a week than a lot of people do in a month. Hell, 2 months when you figure in taxes... Do you not see why a lot of people would resent the fuck out of that?

Now, we all know that the ween gravy train that Fatty has been exploiting has derailed. He doesn't know that, and likely (certainly) will rage for time immemorial about da trolls who RUINED HIS EBAY LIFE AND PUT HIM OUT ON DA STREETS! Point being that I can't get upset over people being just a bit put out over Fatty's undeserved success at parting fools from their money when they have to work hard as fuck just to stay alive.
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Well think of it as throwing the dog a bone. It's one instance of success against a lifetime of failure and greater misery to come.
 
HighlyKoalified said:
Chris had better get used to feeling overwhelmed. I don't see how he could feel less overwhelmed in the coming years
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I agree. With his house burning down and his mother getting more holey buttocks by the day, Chris should have felt overwhelmed a long time ago. I think his entitled tard logic always works against him, and he doesn't realize the consequences of his actions until far later in life.
 
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