Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[Pointless Sperg]

You guys aren't really from Ohio so I'm going to have to explain how big of a deal this one is. People literally get shot there. Like you know how you see movies about drive-bys and stuff like that well that's the exact type of location they sent him. They literally sent him to a place that at that time was considered one of the worst ghettos in America. I mean this is the type of place where carjackings happen. He is lucky he did not get robbed or carjacked

So you're saying he missed out on being culturally enriched?

https://www.virginiacriminallawfirm.com/practice-areas/fraud/check-fraud

The check was also made out for $0.00. I don't think you could be charged with fraud if you didn't misrepresent the check as being worth actual money.

It's theoretically possible, everytime court meets at the end of a countenance all they have to do is unanimously agree Chris is still incompetent and send him back to western State. Pointless sperg has said that while this is possible OT wouldn't exactly last the rest of Chris's life. After about 5 years they may as well declare Chris beyond anyone's help and have him sent to western State indefinitely until he shows some kinda improvement.

The one caveat is that if after 5 years he's still incompetent, or only 1 year if he's not charged with a felony, they have to drop the charges. The requirements for continuing to be in a State Hospital then go to civil requirements, which are stricter than incompetence. He has to be ruled actually incapacitated/insane.

This is actually a HUGE loophole for some cases where if you are charged with a felony with a long potential sentence, you can get the charges dropped within 5 years, and unless you are found competent in the future, you can't be charged again. (And since the charges are dropped, the court can't order more evaluation unless you're arrested again for something else.) This doesn't really apply in Chris' case though since there's more than one felony they can charge him with, which they can re-arrest him on, and he wasn't likely to get more than 5 years anyway.

Or, less likely, they have to have added rape charges, and have a doctor rule him as having an uncontrollable urge to rape. Ordinarily you have to actually be convicted of rape for that to happen, but there's a loophole where they can do it if you have charges dropped due to 5 years of incompetence.

He's currently there, so far as we know, under the orders of a court of limited jurisdiction that can only lock him up for a year. If they wanted to keep him, I think they'd still have to file an actual felony on him. After a year, he'd have spent as much time locked up as the one year max the court can hold him before losing its jurisdiction.

PS probably knows whether there's a distinction between evaluation/treatment and incarceration for the purposes of the court's jurisdiction. If there isn't, then they'd either have to charge him or actually commit him as a danger to himself or others. I'm not sure what procedure they'd have to go through if he is still in the hospital by the time they have to decide.

I think there might actually a loophole where this can happen. The J&DR court could have brought felony charges with the intent to indict, and then they'd be required to have a probable cause hearing since that effectively ends their jurisdiction, and if they didn't do a timely probable cause hearing a judge would then tell the defense no more stalling, you can stall in Circuit Court if you need to, and tell the prosecution to shit or get off the pot and let Chris go.

However they can't do a probable cause hearing while Chris is incompetent, so there would be a brief window where they could bring the charges, but before the next hearing a doctor determined Chris to be incompetent, and at what would've been a probable cause hearing in February instead Chris gets ruled incompetent, putting the whole process on ice, while still leaving Chris charged with a felony.

I don't think this is likely, but I can still see it as a scenario that's technically possible. I can't find an example of this happening in Virginia.

The Fifth Circuit ruled that there's no constitutional protection against being held over a year without indictment, but most states, including Virginia, have some form of protection against that. As far as I can tell Mississippi is the big exception (which is why the Fifth Circuit was involved).

 

[King Kiwi]

The check was also made out for $0.00. I don't think you could be charged with fraud if you didn't misrepresent the check as being worth actual money.

Shhh-SHHHHHH-SHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

 

[Beautiful Border]

Don't tell me this is an end of an era?

The story of Chris Chan only ends either when he stops saying/doing weird stuff or he kicks the bucket, whichever comes first (and I have my guesses as to which that will be).

 

[AnOminous]

The check was also made out for $0.00. I don't think you could be charged with fraud if you didn't misrepresent the check as being worth actual money.

There was a case where someone didn't create the check, it was one of those fake checks in junk mail that disclaim (in tiny letters) having any value, but he just (rather stupidly) deposited it in his ATM on a lark. The check was for $95,000 or so, which would have raised some eyebrows, but it actually cleared. He then cashed it out as a cashier's check, but didn't cash the cashier's check.

The situation ended up hairy but he didn't end up convicted of anything, and ended up a motivational speaker apparently.

 

[A Grey Cat]

God damn. You are all such insufferable faggots, swear to god the only thing keeping you from being featured on this site is the bare minimum amount of self-awareness necessary to not talk about your own pathetic lives.

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That's highly inaccurate...the rooms need to be way filthier, the retard ween's room especially.

 

[Pappy Striderite]

Chris wont be homeless. There is always going to be a retard like null who will finance the troon momfuckers next adventure and keep him well fed.

i've always maintained he'll never be homeless, but yer vision is still too optimistic.

chris won't be safe, fed, and paxil'ed, unless somebody hides him away like a house plant or basement gimp. any new "teen troon squad" wouldn't be able to keep him secret and they'd get chris assaulted in an instant while parading him around town.
i think he's 'famous' enough to get hurt now.

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[@Glassshardballpit i just don't deserve your avatar's beautiful gaze]

 

[King Kiwi]

you're vision is way to optimistic. chris will be somebody's house plant or basement toy. any new "teen troon squad" wouldn't be able to keep him secret and they'd get chris assaulted in an instant while parading him around town.

I want you to tell me what's wrong with this.

No rush.

 

[Sope Roap]

The main reason you'd cop a NGRI with its low rate of success is you're otherwise facing the death penalty, or on the other hand, you have a crime that NGRI gets you out of completely with little likelihood of permanent commitment. Death-qualified juries are generally reluctant to find, for instance, that someone murdered a bunch of people and give them NGRI for any reason, especially if they believe it is possible the person could ever subsequently be released.

Contrary to slasher flicks, though, this really doesn't happen very often. John Hinckley would be the most egregious recent example I can think of, and even he hasn't committed any new crimes that we know of.

It’s also incredibly rare that it gets used in courts because most attorneys worth their salt know it’s not worth it. Death penalty crimes are almost always tied with court ordered psychiatric evaluation, so if an attorney tries to pull an NGRI it’s just adding unnecessary steps to the already insane (pun intended) process. James Homes’ attorney tried an NGRI plea and it didn’t work because there was plenty of evidence that he planned his attack, and court psychiatrists are super doctors that can easily tell if someone is really insane or just sick in the head. Attorneys that try an NGRI usually suffer career consequences later on because of its reputation of gumming up the courts.

 

[MarineN*423543]

I consider this the dark ages of Christory.

chronicle of a fated end

 

[Pappy Striderite]

I want you to tell me what's wrong with this.

me.

lol if there's a flaw in things i make, i'm the common factor.

just tell me why i'm stupid. don't make me work for it!

edit : grammar t'was that killed my "rigged erection"

 

[oramge cat]

There's an alternate reality where Chris had unlimited ween lego money and all the china he wants from that mouth breather fiona.

Chris could have had all of the money, a girl way out of his league, and made bank travelling at cons and selling merch and doing shoutouts with null to manage his bullshit, all he had to do was not rape his goddamn mother. He had pussy lined up! He was so goddamn close to being a legit e-celeb. But he just had to fuck his mom. It's not like he has 2 hands he could use to jack off if he was horny. I was happy for him before the motherfucking happened. I thought the future of Chris was being a special guest at cons doing shit like "get a pic with Internet legend Chris-Chan!" and selling drawings and shoutouts and shit and I figured null would manage his finances and give him a tard allowance and keep him housed and fed. I was so happy for the good ending where one of the OG trolls steps in and unfucks his life and he becomes the famous comic book author he always knew he would be and he just managed to fuck it all up. I was like legit hurt by this news, like it had happened with family.

Did Chris troll me?

 

[AnOminous]

James Homes’ attorney tried an NGRI plea and it didn’t work because there was plenty of evidence that he planned his attack, and court psychiatrists are super doctors that can easily tell if someone is really insane or just sick in the head.

And not just that, he had even booby trapped his apartment in an unsuccessful attempt to kill officers attempting to search it, which shows he had the rationality to know not only what he was doing was illegal, but that police would respond, and that they would figure out where he lived and search his apartment, and to take action to harm them when they did. That's way too much premeditation and rationality to be NGRI.

You don't get more first degree than the level of planning and, frankly, vile evil that went into this.

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

Chris could have had all of the money, a girl way out of his league, and made bank travelling at cons and selling merch and doing shoutouts with null to manage his bullshit, all he had to do was not rape his goddamn mother. He had pussy lined up! He was so goddamn close to being a legit e-celeb. But he just had to fuck his mom. It's not like he has 2 hands he could use to jack off if he was horny. I was happy for him before the motherfucking happened. I thought the future of Chris was being a special guest at cons doing shit like "get a pic with Internet legend Chris-Chan!" and selling drawings and shoutouts and shit and I figured null would manage his finances and give him a tard allowance and keep him housed and fed. I was so happy for the good ending where one of the OG trolls steps in and unfucks his life and he becomes the famous comic book author he always knew he would be and he just managed to fuck it all up. I was like legit hurt by this news, like it had happened with family.

Did Chris troll me?

 

[nayeon]

Would you wanna Jack a cobalt blue rust bucket with Virgina licence plates and one of them reads sonichu? And the back is covered in gaudy gay as hell bumper stickers? Sonchu wasn't even good enough to get jacked for chop shop parts.

yes, because if i was a crack whore that shit would be easy as fuck

 

[Pointless Sperg]

like it had happened with family.

It DID happen with family.

 

[NortonAntiVirus]

He looks so incredibly average, straight out of the smash mouth era.

 

[Flavius Anthemius]

He looks so incredibly average, straight out of the smash mouth era.

His get up in that classic stunt did make him like a bit of a goof ball, but if he would have cleaned himself up a bit more and actually managed to stop trying to flirt with women and acting like a weirdo towards randoms, he could have passed off as normal at first glance.

But obviously no, he completely missed the point about deciding to make this video as a send-off on his "character" and he decided to head down the wrong path in life, multiple times.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

His get up in that classic stunt did make him like a bit of a goof ball, but if he would have cleaned himself up a bit more and actually managed to stop trying to flirt with women and acting like a weirdo towards randoms, he could have passed off as normal at first glance.

But obviously no, he completely missed the point about deciding to make this video as a send-off on his "character" and he decided to head down the wrong path in life, multiple times.

Given what he normally wore at the time that video was made, he doesn't look that out of the ordinary. I wonder why he went back to his clown shirts and other nonsense.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Given what he normally wore at the time that video was made, he doesn't look that out of the ordinary. I wonder why he went back to his clown shirts and other nonsense.

The trolls threatened Chris by telling the government to stop his tugboat because he came off as 'normal' in the video.

 

[TexasRanger]

Chris could have had all of the money, a girl way out of his league, and made bank travelling at cons and selling merch and doing shoutouts with null to manage his bullshit, all he had to do was not rape his goddamn mother. He had pussy lined up! He was so goddamn close to being a legit e-celeb. But he just had to fuck his mom. It's not like he has 2 hands he could use to jack off if he was horny. I was happy for him before the motherfucking happened. I thought the future of Chris was being a special guest at cons doing shit like "get a pic with Internet legend Chris-Chan!" and selling drawings and shoutouts and shit and I figured null would manage his finances and give him a tard allowance and keep him housed and fed. I was so happy for the good ending where one of the OG trolls steps in and unfucks his life and he becomes the famous comic book author he always knew he would be and he just managed to fuck it all up. I was like legit hurt by this news, like it had happened with family.

Did Chris troll me?

Thank you for writing this scenario. There was a time, where I had serious hopes that this will become a "how I have unfxcked my life" story. Like, an inspiration for the thousands of losers,virgins,nerds etc. And now this....Can s.o give me a quick update on the Chris-Chan situation, also from a legal viewpoint?