Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[TayandYou]

I've been saying for a while that Chris should do vanlife. Driving is one of the few things Chris seems to be able to do somewhat competently. He doesn't have any more tickets or accidents than most people. Just the kind of fender benders that happen to everyone, or shit caused by his dumb behavior, like trying to run over Michael Snyder.

Vanlife would be perfect for Chris. He'd get to meet other weirdos, see new places, have privacy, not have to pay a mortgage or electric bill or anything except car insurance and gas.

A shame he's too retarded to get setup. He'd absolutely buy a 300 dollar lithium battery or something and destroy it by accident.

He hallucinates or at least claims to hallucinates when driving, and also drives distracted while playing videogames not to mention he tends to try to run over people he dislikes. It'll be a matter of time before he runs somebody over claiming that they were possessed by Jakoba or some bullshit.

Additionally, Chris has autism. Unlike most people, he's not really a big fan of meeting other weirdos or seeing new places unless it's something he cares about already (such as my little pony or videogames). He has talked about this in the past, about how it isn't that easy for him to "get out of his autistic shell" and socialize. Which is pretty strange considering how he seems to keep befriending trolls and weens like it's no big deal.

If this was pre-2009 Chris before his downward spiral, you might have been right, seeing the world might have helped Chris to learn to socialize like a normal person, reduced his naivety, got him out of the clutches of Borb and grounded him to reality. But today's Chris is way too far gone for that in my opinion, unless the doctors in the psych wards are miracle workers Chris will never be well enough to do vanlife.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

It's odd because Chris went to jail, while some people thought it would give him discomfort, Chris got used to jail life rather easily. We still don't know how he's adjusting to the mental hospital life, so I'll assume, Chris may not be adjusting well to that.

Honestly, the facilities are a step up from jail (WSH has new buildings and the rooms look pretty nice). He probably gets out of his room more than he did his cell at CVRJ. After a brief freakout at the beginning because of his fear of mental hospitals, I could imagine him settling in pretty well.

 

[Ophelia]

To his credit he did sleep in the van the first night. He also complained he couldn't sleep more than 90 minutes because it was too uncomfortable. Apparently he tried to sleep in the driver's seat instead of working out a more comfortable way to sleep, even though it was a fricking van.

I thought he stole the money in the middle of the night because he got tired of the van.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I thought he stole the money in the middle of the night because he got tired of the van.

In his messages to WCT, he says he slept in the van the night of the 30th, and "at least he can sleep comfy tonight" on the 31st.

WCT DMs - CWCki

sonichu.com

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Honestly, the facilities are a step up from jail (WSH has new buildings and the rooms look pretty nice). He probably gets out of his room more than he did his cell at CVRJ. After a brief freakout at the beginning because of his fear of mental hospitals, I could imagine him settling in pretty well.

Interesting. I guess the only downside for Chris is that he can't communicate with anyone (boasting about godhood; claiming he 'healed' his mom) in letter or online form. The man is a huge egoist and if one shuts down someone like Chris' way of telling everyone how good he is, I can't help but to think Chris will start to lose some composure.

 

[Manticucc]

It's odd because Chris went to jail, while some people thought it would give him discomfort, Chris got used to jail life rather easily. We still don't know how he's adjusting to the mental hospital life, so I'll assume, Chris may not be adjusting well to that.

How do you equate becoming completely dissasociated from reality and considering yourself Jesus as getting used to jail life?

It made him loose whatever grasp on reality he had left, within weeks.

 

[Manticucc]

Unless Heilberg has the funding and actually chooses to hire his own expert, who will probably be someone who disagrees with the state expert about at least something. If he can maintain Chris's "incompetent" status over a year, the incentive to plead the case out becomes much higher. Or we head to Circuit Court where the rodeo is open to the public.

I highly doubt that.

I'm going under the assumption that the public defender system works similar to where I live...

The county probably doesnt have designated public defenders-- instead, all criminal lawyers must do so many cases as public defenders per year. It probably works on some sort of voucher/ lottery system.

You can either get the best lawyer in the county, or some random person...but I highly doubt that Heilberg is going to hire a professional witness on his own dime.

 

[Undersideofcwcspillow]

He hallucinates or at least claims to hallucinates when driving, and also drives distracted while playing videogames not to mention he tends to try to run over people he dislikes. It'll be a matter of time before he runs somebody over claiming that they were possessed by Jakoba or some bullshit.

Additionally, Chris has autism. Unlike most people, he's not really a big fan of meeting other weirdos or seeing new places unless it's something he cares about already (such as my little pony or videogames). He has talked about this in the past, about how it isn't that easy for him to "get out of his autistic shell" and socialize. Which is pretty strange considering how he seems to keep befriending trolls and weens like it's no big deal.

If this was pre-2009 Chris before his downward spiral, you might have been right, seeing the world might have helped Chris to learn to socialize like a normal person, reduced his naivety, got him out of the clutches of Borb and grounded him to reality. But today's Chris is way too far gone for that in my opinion, unless the doctors in the psych wards are miracle workers Chris will never be well enough to do vanlife.

Guess they don't teach reading comprehension anymore.

I'm not talking about shit Chris does like trying to hit Snyder. I'm not arguing whether Chris should be allowed to drive.

I am simply saying that Chris is no worse a driver than most people on the road. He's arguably better. In something like 20 years of driving, Chris has only had a few fender benders.

Does he mistreat his cars and break them? Absolutely. But does he drive dangerously? No more than the average person on the road. Most people played Pokemon Go while driving when it came out. It was the easy way to hatch eggs. At least Chris only did it while at red lights. WAY MORE people did it while actually moving. Millions upon millions of people drive WAY MORE distracted than Chris.

He drove to Ohio and back. He's driven around the East Coast to cons. He drove himself to college. He doesn't have speeding tickets, or reckless driving tickets, or anything like that.

In 20 years, Chris has had only a few fender benders from actual daily driving(again, because this apparently isn't clear enough, that doesn't mean trying to hit Snyder).

I just posted my comment as a fun hypothetical situation. Vanlife Chris would be really interesting to me. But you took my fun hypothetical and just completely fucking ignored the entire point in order to say some dumb shit that is completely irrelevant. Thanks. Appreciate it.

 

[AnOminous]

The county probably doesnt have disignated public defenders-- instead, all criminal lawyers must do so many cases as public defenders per year. It probably works on some sort of voucher/ lottery system.

Virginia has a pro bono law, but it's purely aspirational and you can do no pro bono work at all. People who want to defend indigents as court appointed counsel also have to take additional training and be certified under Va. Stat. § 19.2-163.03, which not all lawyers are.

So again, if Heilberg is representing Chris, he is doing so entirely voluntarily.

You can either get the best lawyer in the county, or some random person...but I highly doubt that Heilberg is going to hire a professional witness on his own dime.

I wouldn't actually be shocked if he did. He seems like some kind of professional do-gooder. But what he would do is move for the state to fund it, probably for much less than fair market value, and get some expert witness he's worked with in the past who shares his general do-gooding sentiments and works for a reduced rate, as Heilberg certainly is.

Additionally, Virginia has sided with many states that when the lack of an expert witness for an indigent defendant would result in a "fundamentally unfair trial," the right to such a witness has a constitutional dimension (following and expanding on Ake v. Oklahoma, 470 U.S. 68 (1985) (finding right of indigent defendant in capital case to expert witness)).

 

[Undersideofcwcspillow]

Wow it's almost like i fucking said at the end of my comment that knowing chris, he'd fuck it up.

Almost like it's just a fun idea i had and not a serious suggestion.

 

[Ophelia]

Interesting. I guess the only downside for Chris is that he can't communicate with anyone (boasting about godhood; claiming he 'healed' his mom) in letter or online form. The man is a huge egoist and if one shuts down someone like Chris' way of telling everyone how good he is, I can't help but to think Chris will start to lose some composure.

He might be happy writing it down and imagining. He enjoys the feedback, but it doesn’t seem like it’s necessary the way it is for some people.

How do you equate becoming completely dissasociated from reality and considering yourself Jesus as getting used to jail life?

It made him loose whatever grasp on reality he had left, within weeks.

It inspired a new daydream cope he knew wasn’t real in his heart of hearts. It’s possible for someone to go too deep into their cope, but we’re not sure that happened.

 

[Strange Wilderness]

It's odd because Chris went to jail, while some people thought it would give him discomfort, Chris got used to jail life rather easily. We still don't know how he's adjusting to the mental hospital life, so I'll assume, Chris may not be adjusting well to that.

I chalk it up to jail life not being all that different from the life he was living at 14 Branchland Ct before he got kicked out. At 14 Branchland Ct Chris already spent most of his time shut up in a small room with almost no one to talk to, had no real friends to lose, most of his family had disowned him except his senile mother/ sex doll so he already had no one to talk to, he lived in a smelly shithole, didn't have a job, ate garbage for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and spent most of his time daydreaming about living in cartoon land. Yes jail life sucked but he could cope better than expected because he lived such a shit life on the outside that being tossed into a jail cell wasn't too much of a change to his lifestyle.

Honestly, the facilities are a step up from jail (WSH has new buildings and the rooms look pretty nice). He probably gets out of his room more than he did his cell at CVRJ. After a brief freakout at the beginning because of his fear of mental hospitals, I could imagine him settling in pretty well.

There's some level of poetic irony that Chris spent his whole life in fear of being locked up in a mental institution, Hell one could argue his entire maladjusted upbringing was because his parents fought so hard to avoid getting him the help he needed, and yet its probably the cleanest, nicest, place he has ever been and the only place that will ever make an effort to help him develop as a person in his entire life.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Interesting. I guess the only downside for Chris is that he can't communicate with anyone (boasting about godhood; claiming he 'healed' his mom) in letter or online form. The man is a huge egoist and if one shuts down someone like Chris' way of telling everyone how good he is, I can't help but to think Chris will start to lose some composure.

He's way more likely to be allowed to interact with other people in the hospital. The violent folks often lose their privileges, so the common areas have less violent people.

You can either get the best lawyer in the county, or some random person...but I highly doubt that Heilberg is going to hire a professional witness on his own dime.

There is a budget for expert witnesses. It's not much but it's there:

Title 19.2. Criminal Procedure

law.lis.virginia.gov

Chart of Allowances -13- January 2022

19.2-175 Compensation of Experts
(1) Evaluation of Competency to Stand Trial $400.00
(2) Evaluation of Mental Status at the Time of Offense (MSO) $500.00
(3) Evaluation of Mental Status at the Time of the Offense and Competency to Stand Trial $750.00
(4) Pre-sentence Evaluation $400.00
(5) Court Appearance - Witness fee (plus mileage at .585/mile) $100/day
(6) Revocation of Conditional Release (§19.2-182.8 )-Evaluation of Acquitee $500.00

 

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

Vanlife Chris would be really interesting to me. But you took my fun hypothetical and just completely fucking ignored the entire point in order to say some dumb shit that is completely irrelevant.

Fair comment, but, as I said in an earlier post, I really don't think that anyone who cheerily announces that he felt sleepy while driving, but it was okay because Magi-Chan grabbed the steering wheel instead while he had a nap doesn't exactly inspire confidence as a safe driver.

 

[Ophelia]

Vanlife Chris would be interesting, and maybe when he was in his 20s he could have pulled it off; but Chris thrives on a schedule and isn’t good at being flexible in changing circumstances. He can adapt (we’ve seen that from the jail saga), but he needs a steady more or less predictable environment.

A more wholesome Chris could have been the simple sidekick to an adventurous person (tard wrangler). Just keep him away from rabbits and it could have worked. But we don’t have a compliant agreeable simpleton.

 

[King Kiwi]

Null advised him to sleep in his van for one night and Chris stole from his mother (victim) instead.

EXCUSE ME, Madam, but our Lord and Savior needed comfort and security right away.

Sleeping in a van for a night and having money that was yours wired to you within a day or so is UNACCEPTABLE.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go take money out of my mom's account whom I'm no longer allowed to visit.

 

[draggs]

Jail/psych hospital life provides the structure, uniformity and predictability that spergs like Chris secretly crave

 

[Pappy Striderite]

he also gets so insanely passionate about these things I can't help but think he believes it's real, especially all the copium he made up regarding dead dogs/family members being in CWCville

he didn't create robertchu to memorialize him.
he's now a poppet that chris controls. he decides what bob says, does, and approves of now.

just like...

his mind's eye was too focused on the particulars

remember when reading this shit, trolls' alts are all "original creations" to chris. OCs are real people to him. somewhere out there in dimension C-[###] blanca, ivy, julie, even his Sailor MegTune... they're alive and ready for lovin'.

If Barb called something Chris did retarded, I can very much see Chris at least repeating that once, just to gauge reactions.

he said that barb told him the attraction sign looked reht'hardt. IIRC it was a letter to that highschool teacher he liked.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

he said that barb told him the attraction sign looked reht'hardt. IIRC it was a letter to that highschool teacher he liked.

Virginia Sanford was a teacher at his middle school.

 

[Shibaru]

I've been saying for a while that Chris should do vanlife. Driving is one of the few things Chris seems to be able to do somewhat competently. He doesn't have any more tickets or accidents than most people. Just the kind of fender benders that happen to everyone, or shit caused by his dumb behavior, like trying to run over Michael Snyder.

Vanlife would be perfect for Chris. He'd get to meet other weirdos, see new places, have privacy, not have to pay a mortgage or electric bill or anything except car insurance and gas.

A shame he's too retarded to get setup. He'd absolutely buy a 300 dollar lithium battery or something and destroy it by accident.

If Barb's Minivan wasn't a Chrysler product from the early 2000s, it's plausible to think that it could work; just change out the Minivan for an Early-Mid 2000s GMT360 platform SUV (Chevrolet Trailblazer, GMC Envoy, Oldsmobile Bravada, Buick Rainier, etc.), and it might just work.

Though, the real issue here is Chris may not be able to adjust if, at all, he's never exactly taken many trips outside of the General Charlottesville-Ruckersville Area, unless it was for the sake of his "Love Quest" or Conventions (even contemplating taking the ol' rustbucket caravan up to Washington for a Brony convention, despite its shortcomings.), and really the only people he talked to IRL right before Jailtime was his imaginary love interests and Barb.

But, despite all that; I Somewhat agree with you on that front, Chris discovers more of America, Meets new people on his travels, and may actually gain some form of normalcy and potential sanity back that he had lost in the last decade.

After all, it might be Chris's only option as I have a feeling Barb's either gonna be dead or in a nursing home, or Chris is gonna be barred from re-entering 14BC by the time he gets out of the slammer.