Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

Status
Not open for further replies.
The answer you'd get from the majority of medical staff is "we cannot give info about any of our patients." Unless you're family, and your name is on a list of people who would be able to talk to anyone in one of those facilities, they're not even going to acknowledge your question about whether or not a patient is there and just bypass with the most generic answer for the sake of HIPAA; if you were family, and your name was on a list, you'd know whether or not the patient was there in the first place.
And I don't think I really should have to say this but for the love of god do not call hospitals and lie. Do not call hospitals and lie. Do not call hospitals and lie. Do not call hospitals and lie. Do not. This is a felony. Do not fucking lie.
 
And I don't think I really should have to say this but for the love of god do not call hospitals and lie. Do not call hospitals and lie. Do not call hospitals and lie. Do not call hospitals and lie. Do not. This is a felony. Do not fucking lie.
and i dont think i really should have to say this but. you're a retard, you're a retard, you're such a confident retard. i don't think lying to a hospital is a felony. you'd have to prove that the person is in fact lying. if you're calling about a patient, how do they know it's the same patient? if they fuck up and give you the wrong information assuming it's the same patient, that's on them. also, even if it was a felony. don't be a retard and call them with your actual phone. use skype and a VPN or something.
edit: also, have any of you ever been to a hospital in america? i've visited people without being on a list. I've talked to the people at the front desk, asked where this person is and they gave me directions. the main exception as far as i know, is if someone is an abuse victim. like if someone got shot, they want to hide the location of that person in case that shooter wants to finish the job. even if it's immediate family only, you don't have to actually prove it. i know because i was in the hosptial and they said immediate family only, random friends of mine still went in.
 
Last edited:
and i dont think i really should have to say this but. you're a retard, you're a retard, you're such a confident retard. i don't think lying to a hospital is a felony. you'd have to prove that the person is in fact lying. if you're calling about a patient, how do they know it's the same patient? if they fuck up and give you the wrong information assuming it's the same patient, that's on them. also, even if it was a felony. don't be a retard and call them with your actual phone. use skype and a VPN or something.
edit: also, have any of you ever been to a hospital in america? i've visited people without being on a list. I've talked to the people at the front desk, asked where this person is and they gave me directions. the main exception as far as i know, is if someone is an abuse victim. like if someone got shot, they want to hide the location of that person in case that shooter wants to finish the job. even if it's immediate family only, you don't have to actually prove it. i know because i was in the hosptial and they said immediate family only, random friends of mine still went in.
Chris is not in a normal hospital. State mental hospitals are bound by HIPAA and it is a felony for them to tell you if anyone is present and you are not an immediate family member. HIPAA violations are a $250k mandatory fine for healthcare providers and a felony for the violator. Impersonating someone to find out where Chris might be in the mental healthcare system is a goddamned two-spot felony of identity theft and a HIPAA violation.

There is a whole goddamned thread about this where Pointless Sperg has broken this down several times for people like you that clearly know fuck-all about state hospitals and HIPAA laws in the US. Lurk moar.
 
Last edited:
And I don't think I really should have to say this but for the love of god do not call hospitals and lie. Do not call hospitals and lie. Do not call hospitals and lie. Do not call hospitals and lie. Do not. This is a felony. Do not fucking lie.
Too late. Redditors have already gone on a call rampage, that's how they decided on Western state
 
edit: also, have any of you ever been to a hospital in america? i've visited people without being on a list.
You've visited people in a mental hospital without their permission? I seriously doubt that.
Finally, it is not the caller's fault if HIPAA was violated by the employee of the hospital, that should be obvious to even the most retarded among you; simply calling and asking if someone is in a hospital is not identity theft or whatever the fuck, you fucking idiot.
Identity theft requires literally claiming to be someone else. Deliberately soliciting a violation of the law is generally itself illegal. If you know about HIPAA and are deliberately trying to trick someone into breaking it, that's not kosher.

Also you don't have to lie, just call and ask if they're there. They may have already signed a release. I just wouldn't expect to get any useful result out of it.
 
I know there is no point in trying to deter the tard hordes, but staff in a psychiatric hospital are overworked and very busy, and the non-Chris patients they have to look after are often very vulnerable and need a lot of looking after. The staff all have better things to do with their time than field hundreds of tard calls looking for a motherfucker.

I know, screaming into a void and all that.
 
I know there is no point in trying to deter the tard hordes, but staff in a psychiatric hospital are overworked and very busy, and the non-Chris patients they have to look after are often very vulnerable and need a lot of looking after. The staff all have better things to do with their time than field hundreds of tard calls looking for a motherfucker.

I know, screaming into a void and all that.
Not only that but they will get in trouble if some ween calls up and claims that they're Borb Chandler, mom-dad of Chrystine the CPU Goddess and they end up giving out info as a result because of complacency or genuinely believing that the epic gay operative is in fact a family member and someone finds out.

You might be like, "oh, but they didn't know" -- that doesn't matter to the law. If they fuck up and give out HIPAA-infracting info to the wrong person they're, at best, gonna get reprimanded, possibly fined, and probably lose any license they have or get shunted to a more tard-safe position, if not lose their job. They could be on the hook for a suit (unlikely since Chris's family doesn't give a fuck, but you never know) They likely wouldn't be on the hook for a felony visit to PMITA Prison, but still; it'd come pretty close to ruining the poor sucker's life, at least for a while.

In Chris's case, the reason I warn against it is because let's face it, the only reason some tard would do this is to report on it on Reddit or here like that retard that sent fake cheques to Chris. What point would there be in wasting so much time except in order to share the EBIG WEEN somewhere? Iiiin which case: 'grats retard you posted that you committed two possible felonies on the internet. "Oh, but I'm behind seven boxxies!" -- you can shit in stolen pants, but that won't change that you're a pants-shitting retard.

Chris is also a (relatively speaking, compared to the average wailing tard) high-profile case. Pretty much everyone involved will be at least somewhat aware of his notoriety. The jails he's been at were aware of his notoriety pretty quickly, and I'm sure his therapists have googled his ass in seconds of hearing him rant about being famous on the internet. I would be unsurprised if at least one person related to this case directly has browsed the 'farms, or Reddit threads about him. Everything relating to his case is probably under greater scrutiny than the average; do remember that he was segregated from gen-pop, which we can only speculate as being either due to the uniqueness of his case, his 'tism, or his notoriety - and I bank on it being a combo of all three.

Is that to say that there's glowniggers hiding in the corners of the 'farms waiting to spot weens saying that they dilated from six payphones to find out what hospital Chris is in? No. But why waste your time finding out where the tard baby is rotting anyway? Why put yourself in the gunsights of felonious charges - even if there's little reason you'll be caught, harrass overworked reception staff, and generally get covered in shit for nothing more than E-cred you could outpace in worth by merely not being a retard yourself? Chris is too fucking stupid not to resurface on his own when he's able to contact people. From prison he was still shitting out content and constantly making himself a bother to the internet. When -- if -- he resurfaces, we'll know it just because he can't help himself.

There is no need to engage with the retard. Sit back and let the car crash unfold of its own accord.
 
Last edited:
Who actually fucking cares what hospital Chris is in. What does it matter? What are you gonna do, go there and try to visit and troll him for content? You gonna slip a nurse a $20 so she forces Chris to shove a pickle up his ass while everyone claps for you? All for dem reddit updoots amirite?
 
Who actually fucking cares what hospital Chris is in. What does it matter? What are you gonna do, go there and try to visit and troll him for content? You gonna slip a nurse a $20 so she forces Chris to shove a pickle up his ass while everyone claps for you? All for dem reddit updoots amirite?
Exactly, it's fuckin over for now until Chris either gets out for a hearing or some documents are published / found referring to him. Otherwise we have to wait and see if and when Chris will ever get out or contact the outside world again. Might be months, might be years, find something else to waste time on instead of endangering people completely separate to the story.
 
i know because i was in the hosptial and they said immediate family only, random friends of mine still went in.
Are you sure?

You don’t seem like you have “friends”.

Anyway, aside from all of the other valid points as to why bothering a hospital is stupid, uncalled for, and illegal, anyone who tries such a foolish move may also interfere with Chris and potentially other people’s treatment.

If they become concerned because they think chris is in some kind of danger, they may have to move him again.

Leave the poor sod alone. No good will come of harassing hospitals.
 
Why would you discourage retards from breaking the law? It just gives us more to laugh at.
Because this is not a place to form trolling plans or encourage people to act like weens. That being said if someone is stupid enough to break into Chris's house and upload pictures on Reddit or harass a hospital enough to confirm that Chris is locked up there, great, new info. I'm not going to be shedding tears when they end up doing three to five in the state pen. If someone wants to break the law to mess with Chris you can't stop them but you probably shouldn't encourage them to act like an idiot.
 
and i dont think i really should have to say this but. you're a retard, you're a retard, you're such a confident retard. i don't think lying to a hospital is a felony. you'd have to prove that the person is in fact lying. if you're calling about a patient, how do they know it's the same patient? if they fuck up and give you the wrong information assuming it's the same patient, that's on them. also, even if it was a felony. don't be a retard and call them with your actual phone. use skype and a VPN or something.
edit: also, have any of you ever been to a hospital in america? i've visited people without being on a list. I've talked to the people at the front desk, asked where this person is and they gave me directions. the main exception as far as i know, is if someone is an abuse victim. like if someone got shot, they want to hide the location of that person in case that shooter wants to finish the job. even if it's immediate family only, you don't have to actually prove it. i know because i was in the hosptial and they said immediate family only, random friends of mine still went in.
Don't fucking do it.

It's the same retarded idea as continuously calling for welfare checks on the Chandlers in the past. You annoy the police long enough they're going to ignore your ass.

Maybe it's a foreign idea to you but maybe, just maybe, they're keeping info from the public to keep patients safe.

If you're in need of new tards to giggle at, try looking at other lolcows on this site.

Just a thought.
 
hospital where he isn't:
"looks up if he's in there so that they can tell you no either way"

hospital where he is:
"does other stuff then says no either way"

Damn you cracked the case

I can actually give an answer on this from personal experience assisting people. I've had to do this before.

It is NOT a HIPAA violation to confirm that someone is not in a facility. You are not releasing any info on the person's medical status, you are merely confirming that you have no information on that person's condition.

So when contacting a facility, and they say a person is not in that facility, they are not breaking the law, and you can be fairly certain that the person is not in that facility. However there is nothing stopping that facility from refusing to give out any information.

If the facility wants to give you that information, it works like a warrant canary. "Chris is not here/Kiwi Farms has no gag orders", vs. "NO INFORMATION".

However if Null didn't give a shit and wanted to be unhelpful, he could just say "NO INFORMATION" all the time, regardless of if there were a gag order or not.

So if you're some dipshit calling hospitals looking for Chris, you may well get the "no information" response even if Chris isn't there, because they can tell you're a dipshit and don't want to assist you.

EDIT: So what I'm saying, is that if you are an insufferable ween trying to harass your way into figuring out where Chris is, your odds of success are low. On the other hand, if you are a person genuinely concerned about Chris' welfare and not just weening, then it could succeed somewhat.

Most importantly the farms should not be used to plan gayops, or encourage illegal behavior, as Null has pointed out.
 
Last edited:
It is NOT a HIPAA violation to confirm that someone is not in a facility. You are not releasing any info on the person's medical status, you are merely confirming that you have no information on that person's condition.
Mental health information is generally treated with more delicacy, as whether or not a facility could reasonably infer someone would consent to the disclosure of minimally private information like the mere presence in a hospital depends on the patient's ability to consent in the first place.

One's mere presence in a mental health facility to determine competency to stand trial is an incredibly damaging piece of information about someone who may actually be as mentally incapable of consenting to disclosure as they are to participate meaningfully in their own defense.

I think we can all agree nobody should do this bullshit but I wouldn't be surprised if some idiot already has.
 
Didn't Chris Friendzone Sockness too, giving him a case of blue balls?
he was teasing jacob's balls for a whole year because he was a LARP partner that didn't ask for cash. sockness just wanted to make every LARP end in butt majikz.

it might have worked for sockness if he hadn't tried to speed things up by impressing chris with how many hobos he murdered.

technically though, sockness couldn't be blue-balled. or maybe i should say he was perpetually blue.
he's pretty open about being unable to bust a nut. like, ever. he told chris he felt that his asshole was the cure to his problem.


Why would you discourage retards from breaking the law?
ask that again when you're responsible for a forum.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back