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[Gravityqueen4life]

From the big man himself during his r/Kappa Q & A

Spoiler: Mike

I had to leave Twitch because there was nothing left for me to do there, no room for me to grow. I grew a large FGC presence onto their platform, organized and ran mutiple events, “parties”, various FGC ideas, concepts, blah blah blah.
Weekly reports, presentations, etc.. I had proved the concept that a CPT Centered talk show, Capcom Pro Talk, was something the community needed. After doing it 2 years Capcom told me it was a waste of time as it didn’t generate them any money (their costs for this were $0). This is what led me to kill the show. I spent money out of my own pocket to bring cool s*** to y’all but they didn’t appreciate that so f*** them.
I don’t care to be a VP, CEO, w/e the f*** you wanna call yourself to make you feel important, of a company that I didn’t create. Twitch and Mike Ross have different life goals. Titles don’t mean s*** to me, they never have. To stay in a corporate environment means I’d have to s*** **** to climb. I don’t s*** ****. If you do that’s okay though, you do you.
And keep in mind, Twitch originally was a free thinking, creative environment to do cool s***. They didn’t have to answer anyone when I was there initially. Money means they are owned now. When you are owned, you have no freedom. Just an illusion of the concept.
I had to break from the “FGC” because I don’t recognize it anymore. FGC to me is different than what it is to you. Y’all didn’t show up til maybe 2017/2018. So when you ask me about the FGC were aren’t even in the same league of thought.
However, I started to feel like everyone around me was fake. If they aren’t fake, then it’s ME that is. Either way staying active wouldn’t let me see clear so sometimes you gotta take a step back and view your life externally.
Throughout this entire FGC journey I tried to maintain contact with everyone, even folks from elementary school. Thousands of people all messaging me at various times and I tried to stay on it. After a while I started questioning people’s intention around me. “Who in the FGC is really my friend? Are people only nice to me cause they think I’m something else? What if I didn’t have this job, what if I had no relevance, no fame regardless of how small it is, no EA, none of it. Then who’s there?”
I couldn’t go to an event without someone acting extra nice to me and then slipping in “aye put me on excellent adventures bro!”. Or, “hey dawg, you’re black but you haven’t helped my streams ever, you only help white people”.
I’ve had females privately record conversations with me just to share with their friends like “look who I talked to, I got him to say...”
Ultimately this s*** just started to eat at me, I figured “I can stop all this nonsense by just walking out the door. If I’m right, all these people who claim to be my friends will vanish quickly, and the real will stay”
Let me paint a clearer picture:
In 2016 I had 6,000 birthday notifications across social media platforms, email, text messages. In 2017 I had 4 people wish me happy b-day on my actual bday. My family, Hung B, and Mark Julio. That put a f*** ton into perspective for me. Everything I had thought about my perception of people was proving to be true.
I learned that I was the one that needed to change. It’s not 6,000 people fault for not messaging me, it’s my fault for presuming any of it meant a g******n thing. I could go on this for days. Let’s cut it here for now.

Mike is a real one. there so many stories out there about events that were crated out of love and passion, that got turned into a soulless cooperate organization who only cares about profits.

 

[stun_edgelord]

Spoiler: POLYGON VIDEO

How to get started with Fighting Games and have a Nice Time

Fighting games are really cool, but they can be an intimidating hobby to get into. You might look at the competitive world of Tekken or Street Fighter and th...

youtu.be

I've seen this video has been making the rounds lately... I guess they really are going all in to making the FGC more into the soulless poz fest every other community is consumed by.

Spoiler: a rant

In the video he goes, "join a discord server, ask around on twitter" Im so fucking sick of trying to look for tech just to get bump into some obnoxious fucking trannys on a discord. I just want to play video games

 

[Action Orange]

Spoiler: POLYGON VIDEO

How to get started with Fighting Games and have a Nice Time

Fighting games are really cool, but they can be an intimidating hobby to get into. You might look at the competitive world of Tekken or Street Fighter and th...

youtu.be

I've seen this video has been making the rounds lately... I guess they really are going all in to making the FGC more into the soulless poz fest every other community is consumed by.

Spoiler: a rant

In the video he goes, "join a discord server, ask around on twitter" Im so fucking sick of trying to look for tech just to get bump into some obnoxious fucking trannys on a discord. I just want to play video games

The guy in the video went to saying how he had anxiety playing online for the first time and I totally called it. I've always thought it was odd to hear ppl say that. First time I went online in sf 4 I got fucking destroyed and me and my friend were laughing our asses off at how outclassed we were, and simultaneously stoked to see ppl doing legit combos. Being scared of losing and having anxiety over playing online seems to only exist in fighting games and that shits goofy

 

[Girl Named Sandoz]

The guy in the video went to saying how he had anxiety playing online for the first time and I totally called it. I've always thought it was odd to hear ppl say that. First time I went online in sf 4 I got fucking destroyed and me and my friend were laughing our asses off at how outclassed we were, and simultaneously stoked to see ppl doing legit combos. Being scared of losing and having anxiety over playing online seems to only exist in fighting games and that shits goofy

this i actually understand. whether it's social or even performance anxiety some people just get stressed over it

 

[Thiletonomics]

The guy in the video went to saying how he had anxiety playing online for the first time and I totally called it. I've always thought it was odd to hear ppl say that. First time I went online in sf 4 I got fucking destroyed and me and my friend were laughing our asses off at how outclassed we were, and simultaneously stoked to see ppl doing legit combos. Being scared of losing and having anxiety over playing online seems to only exist in fighting games and that shits goofy

That anxiety is a thing with other games too, namely RTSes and MOBAs. "Ladder anxiety" was a real thing in Starcraft 2, as one example. And the toxicity that is inherent with MOBAs (DOTA 2 is considered to be one of the most toxic online games available today) don't help either.

 

[Action Orange]

this i actually understand. whether it's social or even performance anxiety some people just get stressed over it

That anxiety is a thing with other games too, namely RTSes and MOBAs. "Ladder anxiety" was a real thing in Starcraft 2, as one example. And the toxicity that is inherent with MOBAs (DOTA 2 is considered to be one of the most toxic online games available today) don't help either.

Ah okay, my bad yall. I didnt mean to roll up in this thread talking outta my ass. I've always been one of those "jump in casual matchmaking now, training mode later" kinda dudes. To tie one's ego to winning in a new game seems like folly to me. Best to keep it light at first, and to not let shit get too heavy.

 

[Elite Miko]

I've experience that when I first played SF4 for the first time.

 

[Bored Gamer]

I hate both the old toxic FGC and the new consoomer FGC, who do I root for?

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

I hate both the old toxic FGC and the new consoomer FGC, who do I root for?

Neither. Just sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

 

[1988 prick]

tbh bring back the old toxic FGC

drama is alot more interesting back then compared to now

 

[Celebrate Nite]

old toxic FGC

old toxic FGC

Also was the old FGC really THAT bad?

 

[Headshotmaster138]

I hate both the old toxic FGC and the new consoomer FGC, who do I root for?

I don't think the old FGC even exists anymore. The new and old gen are just consoomers now.

tbh bring back the old toxic FGC

drama is alot more interesting back then compared to now

I wonder how drama was back in those days.

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Also was the old FGC really THAT bad?

What do you know of the old FGC? Share your experience with the rest of us.

 

[MooseGump]

Old toxic FGC: Blacks and asians screaming at each other, knives may be involved
NuFGC: Mutilate penis in the name of your main

 

[Celebrate Nite]

What do you know of the old FGC?

Absolutely nothing. I didn't start playing fighters with other people until the 3DS/PS3 with SF4 when online matches were all the rage. I'm absolutely terrible playing stick.

I just keep hearing people say how bad the old FGC was, but never give specific examples of it, only that it was so roudy that it needed to go away and/or change.

 

[Headshotmaster138]

Absolutely nothing. I didn't start playing fighters with other people until the 3DS/PS3 with SF4 when online matches were all the rage. I'm absolutely terrible playing stick.

I just keep hearing people say how bad the old FGC was, but never give specific examples of it, only that it was so roudy that it needed to go away and/or change.

I'm still wondering how the old FGC was bad. I saw old footage of the FGC that dates back to the 2000s and it looks much more better than the current scene, maybe it has do with the fact that it was an niche hobby and people aren't afraid to be "toxic" or speak their minds.

 

[1988 prick]

basically more fighting and less degenerates, pedos and women

 

[Bag of Bones]

I've been keeping my eye on Latif ever since he lost to his own character twice at EVO then acted like he's still hot shit and the best player around. Today there was another strive tourney where he'd potentially play vs Leffen, and they'd get the mirror Zato match again, which I was hoping he'd lose. Unfortunately, he got knocked out by someone before that. It won't stop him from posting on twitter though.

Yeah, I can't win, game must not be for me. It still blows my mind how many people suck his dick in the responses, like "yeah man, you actually are the best, don't worry. I know that if you're the best player in the world and playing a top 3 character, yet still losing, it's obviously that the game is just bad." How do you even get a community like that?

Someone pointed out to me that he says "former EVO champ" in his bio, and he flaunts it like "Dude, I know what I'm talking about, I'm a former EVO champ, I'm hot shit" but the last time he won EVO was 2009 playing guilty gear XX. Not to diminish that accomplishment, but XX is not the same game as Strive, yet he acts like he's the best in the world despite the fact he hasn't won for over 10 years across multiple new installments and updates to the game.

Anyway, the dude is a total sook and it's fun to laugh at him. I can't wait for Season 3 when he loses to some lower-mid tier character and his excuse is something like "I lost because I expected my opponent to be smart, but they're actually just so dumb that I wasn't expecting it and they did stuff that only a retarded person would do and it caught me out. I guess I lose because everyone else is just soooo bad that I wasn't expecting them to suck so much"

 

[Tanner Glass]

I'm still wondering how the old FGC was bad. I saw old footage of the FGC that dates back to the 2000s and it looks much more better than the current scene, maybe it has do with the fact that it was an niche hobby and people aren't afraid to be "toxic" or speak their minds.

It's extremely bad in the sense that it basically didn't exist in addition to all the garbage surrounding it.

The reason so few people were in it/talk about it/whatever is because actual spots were so fucking rare - you could be really into fighting games and not have a local community in your state. The internet was fledgling and the community trended younger - so it would just be posting on various (and separate) message boards trying to find places that had a community and machines. This was before the era of "having strangers in your house" as well, not that many people had a house to host with. I could not imagine a young Tanner Glass going home and asking his parents "Hey can I invite like 7 strangers over to play <obscure Fighting Game>" without catching a belt to the face. They were already pretty leery of me going on an hour journey of bus rides to go to the arcade anyhow.

It also wasn't a "Fighting Game" community because everyone was spread so thin - it was a "Street Fighter and/or Tekken Community" because there was no fucking way you were going to find enough people or machines to support anything else, if anything at all. Maybe, just maybe you could convince a Tekken crowd to play Soul Calibur but that's about it.

I think it's one of the reasons that SF3:Third Strike is so revered in the FGC - it seemed to me to be the most popular arcade game ever made and existed right at the perfect time where a lot of the FGC was old enough to go to arcades and make scenes, but before online became a focus and consoles were commonplace and FGs were readily available.

 

[Headshotmaster138]

It's extremely bad in the sense that it basically didn't exist in addition to all the garbage surrounding it.

The reason so few people were in it/talk about it/whatever is because actual spots were so fucking rare - you could be really into fighting games and not have a local community in your state. The internet was fledgling and the community trended younger - so it would just be posting on various (and separate) message boards trying to find places that had a community and machines. This was before the era of "having strangers in your house" as well, not that many people had a house to host with. I could not imagine a young Tanner Glass going home and asking his parents "Hey can I invite like 7 strangers over to play <obscure Fighting Game>" without catching a belt to the face. They were already pretty leery of me going on an hour journey of bus rides to go to the arcade anyhow.

It also wasn't a "Fighting Game" community because everyone was spread so thin - it was a "Street Fighter and/or Tekken Community" because there was no fucking way you were going to find enough people or machines to support anything else, if anything at all. Maybe, just maybe you could convince a Tekken crowd to play Soul Calibur but that's about it.

I think it's one of the reasons that SF3:Third Strike is so revered in the FGC - it seemed to me to be the most popular arcade game ever made and existed right at the perfect time where a lot of the FGC was old enough to go to arcades and make scenes, but before online became a focus and consoles were commonplace and FGs were readily available.

Thanks for the comment but I wanna know. How does it compare to the current scene? Is it better or worse?

 

[Tanner Glass]

Thanks for the comment but I wanna know. How does it compare to the current scene? Is it better or worse?

For nearly every single person alive today, talking 99.9% of anyone who's ever wanted to play a fighting game - the new FGC is better. This is primarily because you get to actually play the fucking game and have a literal choice in what game you play.

There are some people (myself included) who got to be a part of the "old" FGC - and there are some extremely bright moments and memories that will stay with me forever but the fact of the matter is that there just weren't scenes everywhere. Frequently my scene (in a major metro area) would have people come in from out of state to find some decent games - something that most people couldn't or wouldn't do just to play Soul Calibur 2/Tekken 3/MvC2.

The only tournaments you would ever find (if ever) would be at anime cons, would struggle to get 8 people for anything other than SF/Tekken (if those even got filled) on shitty chairs/a shitty tiny TV/shitty controllers for a $5 GameStop Giftcard.

I don't like the "New FGC" all that much - but I can basically boot up and find matches for any fighting game ever invented and make friends that way. For example - I would never have been able to play Persona 4 Arena/Ultimax if there wasn't online for it; no one in my scene picked it up and no one local plays it (despite there being a machine for it here, somehow). It's also not like the "New FGC" is the only gaming community being pozzed by money and/or inclusivity values - it's not that much different than any other online gaming space currently.