Final Fantasy XIV - Kiwi Free Company

[Pigeon Enthusiast]

Yeah, 1.0 had Hamlet Defense which was a beast tribe vs small village affair rather than army vs city but the concept was rather neat. The remnants of this system survive in ARR in a few FATEs which were multi-stage.

It was a neat idea but taking 72 real life actual hours to do it was kinda fucked.

Anyway, the actual problem I think for trying to make open world more exciting is that this game's servers are held together by dying hamsters, twine and a whole lot of prayers. That's why field exploration zones are relatively restricted in player counts - you only need to go take part in a hunt train to find out what happens when you don't cut the player count in a zone down to a manageable amount.

TBH I am firmly convinced that they don't try to put field op-like stuff in the open world because it's too technically difficult for the devs to bother with making a functional instancing system (since they apparently can only set a fixed number of instances for a given zone during maintenance downtime), when they know people will keep subbing with what they've been provided.
Why put effort into figuring out sharding for the sake of actually putting something into the open world, when the whales who treat the game IMVU never set foot outside of the hub cities, and the people who actually play the game have been satisfied for years with the open world being useful for nothing but a handful of A-rank pinatas to beat up for weekly tomes?

 

[Well Intentioned]

TBH I am firmly convinced that they don't try to put field op-like stuff in the open world because it's too technically difficult for the devs to bother with making a functional instancing system

That's honestly what it is, as you can look at Raubahn EX when Stormblood launched for proof of such.

 

[John Roguelike]

Did Raubahn EX not take place in an instance, so people going to Ishgard would just run past people doing that trial?

 

[Agarathium1066]

Did Raubahn EX not take place in an instance, so people going to Ishgard would just run past people doing that trial?

Nope. To start it you had to go to the spot in the zone which made it a laggy trainwreck for the code. So many players were trying to start it simultaneously that most were getting an error.

This is why they began to make multiple instances of a zone if its featured in the MSQ quests and keep it up for a couple of months. Just to make absolutely sure there won't be another Raubahn EX.

 

[John Roguelike]

Nope. To start it you had to go to the spot in the zone which made it a laggy trainwreck for the code.

The likelihood of the game using insane amounts of salvaged spaghetti code from 1.0 (that only the fired employees know how to parse) must be high. The best thing for this game may legitimately be to remake the engine from scratch. Props to them for learning I guess. Though I doubt hate fighting world boss fates due to the lag, it does give world bosses a sense of gravitas. When I fight Archeotania, the lag gives the sense of fighting a disorientingly large, powerful creature.

 

[Gravemind]

The likelihood of the game using insane amounts of salvaged spaghetti code from 1.0 (that only the fired employees know how to parse) must be high.

I mean, if certain phonebooked autists who have been playing some really gay social metagame of "playing both sides" (lol @ calling us all "gangstalkers" when he got found out) are to believed, XIV does actually have absolute spaghetti code, particularly for its networking.

 

[Troon Whisperer]

Raubahn EX wasn't due to zone instances, the quest involved sending players to a quest instance which uses the same system as dungons/raids/trials (except PVP which uses a different instance system for reasons known only to god). The problem is the quest blocked access to the hub city which bottle necked everyone. HW didn't have this issue as people could get to Ishgard rather quickly and start crafting/gathering and doing other things, meanwhile everything in SB was locked behind this quest.

Zone instances are just because the servers can't handle 500 people trying to zone in at once, which is only an issue during hunt trains and special fates.

 

[John Roguelike]

I mean, if certain phonebooked autists who have been playing some really gay social metagame of "playing both sides" (lol @ calling us all "gangstalkers" when he got found out) are to believed, XIV does actually have absolute spaghetti code, particularly for its networking.

Who are you referring to? Was Pyro or someone in this thread at some point?

Edit: I thought Raubahn EX was the actual name for a now-nonexistant trial where we fought Raubahn outside Ishgard for the joint military exercise. I thought it had a quest instance but also had a trial version once upon a time. My bad. I forgot it was about the first instance of stormblood.

 

[Baguette Child]

Who are you referring to? Was Pyro or someone in this thread at some point?

Tari

 

[Gravemind]

Who are you referring to? Was Pyro or someone in this thread at some point?

See below:

Mmm... where have I heard about this stupid incident before?
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So I guess this makes you Libitina then, eh? You're a retarded faggot. Phantom's too small a world for you to keep running your mouth and expecting people not to notice. Unironically kill yourself.
Also funny you're bringing up this dude and his FC looking at yours: Archive - bonus Lodestone: Archive

And no, I'm not any of the names in the screenshots, word gets around, as I said.

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Hope your buff makes you feel special!

Libitina is a story and level skipped character too so I don't know why they're crying so much about it.

I had a little look at Tari's profile last night and saw that Burning Fanatic outed them a few years ago as using the Farms' name for clout, intimidation or whatever they fuck they thought they were doing on Reddit. They're still at it (Archive).
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And remember that random tranny they posted about on the forums and got obsessed with? That was them too. It's even funnier because they post on tranny subreddits all the time themselves.
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Honestly, with a 2019 join date I'd expect better than this but somehow I'm also not surprised. Tari, KF is not your personal army.

Here's a post he made late last year on Kiwi Farms about an OF thread complaining about plugins, and of course he just had to post in it too, with his Libitina Incarne character (thanks for archiving it Tari). Just more proof that it's this retard's character.

Having access to PlayerScope has made him extra insufferable. He just wants any reason at all to post about him having access to it.

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Just noticed he posted this to his reddit lol, weirdo (archive)
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[Well Intentioned]

I mean, if certain phonebooked autists who have been playing some really gay social metagame of "playing both sides" (lol @ calling us all "gangstalkers" when he got found out) are to believed, XIV does actually have absolute spaghetti code, particularly for its networking.

Cripes, I was hoping the dude would have some self reflection and chill the fuck out, but I guess he's doubling down.

 

[Agarathium1066]

Cripes, I was hoping the dude would have some self reflection and chill the fuck out, but I guess he's doubling down.

I was expecting him to roll in with a sock and try to continue on, that or just wait a few weeks. Ah well.

 

[Brandy [◉'']]

Pyro

XIV has no good content creators. Pyromancer was at least entertaining in his sperging, but his shtick of trying to be the lore guy doesn't work with Japanese writers who double and triple down on exposition to make the player understand what is happening. What else is there even? Happy is so milquetoast and his guides are not very good and other than guide authors I couldn't even point at a single XIV e-celeb.
Edit: That one guy doing the machinema shorts is pretty good.

 

[Gravemind]

Controversial opinion and I feel like one of you will sperg about how wrong I am, but I think MMO content creation is just bad overall. WoW content creation only works because the things that happen surrounding WoW are often more interesting than the people talking about those things. XIV doesn't tend to have such qualities... Except when it does, but root issues aren't considered kosher to talk about because you've got a lot of troon shit and predatory behavior surrounding it. The inciting factors get tiptoed around by those willing to bring those things up in favor of covering really boring, high school drama between people, because bringing up troonery and sex pest behavior in XIV will usually attract a mob of people trying to shout you down for "bigotry", which just leads to more boring, high school drama.

You'll notice I'm not addressing anything about lore discussion. It's because nobody fucking reads, even when they do read. I'm certain you could compile and organize every singular piece of lore information straight from its source, verbatim from the text, without embellishments or personal spins – nothing but snippets taken directly from the lorebooks (which has already proven to be an unreliable narrator thanks to continued retcons) and screenshots of in-game text, all neatly categorized to their relevant subjects – and someone would still find a way to either be confused, speculate wildly, or misinterpret something that is clearly stated right in front of them.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

and someone would still find a way to either be confused, speculate wildly, or misinterpret something that is clearly stated right in front of them.

That sounds a lot like Pyro.
The streams where he would write a bunch of shit down like an autist and then make wild fucking headcannons and speculations just so that he could have a spergfest when he'd be proven to be absolutely wrong. Then he'd cross his arms and upturn his nose and declare that his version and understanding of events is better and he will therefore go with that.

God, I'm glad he's gone back to sucking the teet of WoW.

 

[Gravemind]

That sounds a lot like Pyro.
The streams where he would write a bunch of shit down like an autist and then make wild fucking headcannons and speculations just so that he could have a spergfest when he'd be proven to be absolutely wrong. Then he'd cross his arms and upturn his nose and declare that his version and understanding of events is better and he will therefore go with that.

Yeah, he's an example I had in mind when I was describing that trend of behavior.

Literally almost every "lore interpreter" when it comes to XIV, in both roleplay and just informative circles, acts exactly like this. Most of them will even outright claim their interpretation is superior just because, so you should take their word as gospel truth.

 

[John Roguelike]

Yeah, he's an example I had in mind when I was describing that trend of behavior.

Literally almost every "lore interpreter" when it comes to XIV, in both roleplay and just informative circles, acts exactly like this. Most of them will even outright claim their interpretation is superior just because, so you should take their word as gospel truth.

What's there to interpret about the lore anyway? It's given to you pretty clearly. Guess you could theorize where the story may go based on what the story told you, bur there dont seem to be any puzzle pieces to put together at this point. I don't think there were that many to begin with beyond maybe stuff like the Morse code message of the drone at the end of the crystal tower raids or whatever.

 

[Gravemind]

What's there to interpret about the lore anyway? It's given to you pretty clearly.

Because, like I said before, even when THESE people read what's right in front of them, they don't fucking read. It's really just that simple.

 

[John Roguelike]

Because, like I said before, even when THESE people read what's right in front of them, they don't fucking read. It's really just that simple.

I recall Pyro apparently constantly conflating the Allagans with the Ancients, among numerous other crackpot interpretations that flatly contradict the words in front of his eyes. Thats a goofy level of reading incomprehension. How embarrassing.

 

[Well Intentioned]

I recall Pyro apparently constantly conflating the Allagans with the Ancients, among numerous other crackpot interpretations that flatly contradict the words in front of his eyes. Thats a goofy level of reading incomprehension. How embarrassing.

My favorite bit with Pyro was when he had ZERO idea who the possessed Random_Garlean_Soldier_01 was and had a meltdown on his chat for being so thick he didn't realize it was Zenos.

Ranks right up there with his spazzing out over the Lalafel chair.

I wish he was still playing this game because he was some top comedy.