Final Fantasy XIV - Kiwi Free Company

[Kheapathic]

I feel like the big fish achievements are the kind of thing where you roll up with one and even the necromancers and legends start to feel intimidated. I've worked on and off on them but I always end up being sidetracked and falling off.

They get attention, but they're not intimidating, they're a sign of autism, a struggle of will power, a battle of attrition against the game's RNG and your unwillingness to submit.

I whittled the outstanding Heavensward fish down to 3 from my last post and have started focusing on the Stormblood zones. And outside of The Red Dragon, there's the Stethacanus which people have theorycrafted to fish what grants Intuition from with the Collector's Glove on, then sit for up to an hour for the clock/time to cycle to give you the best window to catch it.

Because the Stethacanthus itself is available in any weather pattern, but only for 2 in game hours (5 minutes), and that's with Fisher's Intuition; which you get from catching 2 Sculptor fish. The problem is, at best, the Sculptor is available for only 6 in game hours, and last 2 of which run at the same time as the Stethacanthus.; sometimes it's only those 2 hours, weather pattern depending. But on top of that, the fish that you mooch to get the Stethacanthus mooches into 5 other things, a majority of which are always active if not at the same time as each other, to include the Sculptor as well.

So no lie, the best suggested method is to turn on Collector's Glove, do your damndest to double hook a Sculptor; if you manage to get it and choose not to get it as a collectible, you'll get two and gain Fisher's Intuition. But as long as you don't collect it, getting Fisherman's Intuition is on hold. So depending on how long the clock ran to even get a Sculptor (a low percentage), if you manage to get them, you stand there for an hour, for the clock to hit Stethacanthus hours, and then collect the fish for the Intuition buff and your shot to get it; which by the way, you can mooch into other fish, and all rare fish have a natural escape rate that varies between each fish.

It's not intimidating, it's banging your head against a concrete wall until the wall breaks.

Edit: Finally got the Sea Butterfly, outstanding Heavensward fish is down to two.

 

[Well Intentioned]

Butterfly was an annoying ass one to catch.

Just wait til you get to Lancet jail.

I'd suggest focusing on Ruby Dragon / Ealad Skaan / Cinder Surprise as those tend to be the 'big' annoying ones.

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

The only big fishing I've done was the feast of famine quests. That I thought was a major pain in the ass but I did it literally because I wanted the quest marker gone. The completionist in me isn't happy until all non-repeatable quest markers are cleared. The actual fishing log I can ignore because the whole system is so needlessly obtuse that I don't think it's worth my time. It's not hard it's just tedious and requires a wiki to tell you what the correct combination of bait, time, weather, and mooching is. It's not even a fun puzzle or anything because you could be doing everything right, spend a week and never see the fish you're after. There isn't any way to know if you're doing something wrong or just have bad luck other than check online for someone who datamined everything.

Troons are the anti-casuals. They love obtuse shit because it gives them an excuse to form discord cliques.

Sadly this is true. There's a distinction though. Troons love when things are obtuse and confusing because it lets them hold power over someone for having information. What they don't want are things to be challenging. They want something to look complicated and difficult on the surface. I think that's why the combat is so button heavy but the actual rotation are arguably very simple. You do the exact same thing in the same order every time. A macro can play the game for you. But because you need several hotbars and are mashing loads of buttons during a fight it looks complicated. New Summoner is no easier than most other jobs in the game but people bitch about it only because it trimmed the button bloat. It's still needlessly complex to look at and understand what you're doing because of how often buttons transform into other spells under certain conditions, but it's on par with the rest of the game's difficulty.

 

[Fcret]

It's not intimidating, it's banging your head against a concrete wall until the wall breaks.

That's all content in this game.

Edit: Sometimes it's also convincing 7 other people to bang their heads against a concrete wall until the wall breaks with you but the point still stands.

 

[Michael Wade]

so sick of opening party finder and constantly finding coom shit being advertised (feet pics on discord etc.) how is this not against any rules for pf in game? should I just move to a jp server?

Go to Europe my boy! The French are not that bad as long as you play when they are asleep!

 

[Kheapathic]

Got the last of the Heavensward fish; three of the last four were difficult, the final one just had shitty time windows and I do have to sleep to go to work, but finally got it. Had a few issues with Stormblood fish; but managed most of them well enough and only missing what I'd call the big three; The Red Dragon, Stethacanthus, and Warden of the Seven Hues. Since it's only a few left, moving on to Shadowbringers with a focus already setup on Ealad Skaan and Cinder Surprise.

Autism aside, serious question though... what should I do with all the boss fish, because I'm only catching them to soothe my OCD/Collect Everything tism. I'm seriously sitting on damn near 200 fish with nothing to do with them. The Ultra Rare ones like The Red Dragon I can drop on the marketboard for millions of gil, but outside of those few specimens... seriously... what to do free up inventory space? Because I'm looking at them, saying "Ah yes, my fish collection" as it serves no purpose. Bully me into compliance please.

 

[Fcret]

Got the last of the Heavensward fish; three of the last four were difficult, the final one just had shitty time windows and I do have to sleep to go to work, but finally got it. Had a few issues with Stormblood fish; but managed most of them well enough and only missing what I'd call the big three; The Red Dragon, Stethacanthus, and Warden of the Seven Hues. Since it's only a few left, moving on to Shadowbringers with a focus already setup on Ealad Skaan and Cinder Surprise.

Autism aside, serious question though... what should I do with all the boss fish, because I'm only catching them to soothe my OCD/Collect Everything tism. I'm seriously sitting on damn near 200 fish with nothing to do with them. The Ultra Rare ones like The Red Dragon I can drop on the marketboard for millions of gil, but outside of those few specimens... seriously... what to do free up inventory space? Because I'm looking at them, saying "Ah yes, my fish collection" as it serves no purpose. Bully me into compliance please.

Buy a house while the game is slow and fill your house with aquariums.

 

[std::string]

But because you need several hotbars and are mashing loads of buttons during a fight it looks complicated. New Summoner is no easier than most other jobs in the game but people bitch about it only because it trimmed the button bloat

MNK and BLM are the only two classes that can get tricky, really.

If they toned down the button bloat for a class like DRG the same way as SMN you'd end up with like three of them.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

MNK and BLM are the only two classes that can get tricky, really.

Eh, BLM is easy. The difficulty is mostly in positioning and not panicking if you happen to fuck up - missing one F4 in a round isn't the end of the world. The basic rotation is super easy to dig into, and the main thing is just learning to slidecast a little here-and-there. A lot of the nuances, like how to deal with movement, are intuitive and come with just a bit of practice - and then you start to dig into juicy, alternative rotations, like using Paradox to chop out a B3 (and lucid dreaming on the GCD to ensure you will never clip a F4). I feel like the class gets a bit of a rap, because you see so many shitters drop leyline and use maybe 5s of it in the DF.

I genuinely miss old summoner. It was hectic as shit, but that was the fun of it. Managing DoTs, slamming a zillion weaves - my only problem with it was that if you died, you were mega-fucked due to their resource generation. That, and retarded pet AI eating attacks and taking forever to reliably fire off the buff, which could lead to it eating the cast and throwing it on CD but poofing away for bahamut/phoenix if you weren't careful.

 

[ChromaQuack]

Got the last of the Heavensward fish; three of the last four were difficult, the final one just had shitty time windows and I do have to sleep to go to work, but finally got it. Had a few issues with Stormblood fish; but managed most of them well enough and only missing what I'd call the big three; The Red Dragon, Stethacanthus, and Warden of the Seven Hues. Since it's only a few left, moving on to Shadowbringers with a focus already setup on Ealad Skaan and Cinder Surprise.

Autism aside, serious question though... what should I do with all the boss fish, because I'm only catching them to soothe my OCD/Collect Everything tism. I'm seriously sitting on damn near 200 fish with nothing to do with them. The Ultra Rare ones like The Red Dragon I can drop on the marketboard for millions of gil, but outside of those few specimens... seriously... what to do free up inventory space? Because I'm looking at them, saying "Ah yes, my fish collection" as it serves no purpose. Bully me into compliance please.

House and apartment with aquariums, I believe you can also store these fishes in itemized aquariums inside your house/apartment storage (apartment one should be permanent unless you decide to move servers, I believe)

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

Maybe it's because I main MNK but I always found MNK to be extremely easy. You only have two 123 combos and a proc, that's it. All you do is go back and forth between your two basic combos. Even if you perfect balance you don't do anything different unless you are specifically doing your lunar nadi. In that case you just do 1212 but that's the only variance you do the whole fight.

BLM I haven't looked too hard into but seems the most complicated because it's not immediately clear what's optimal. Like even though freecasting thunder deals all its damage up front and refreshes the duration it's still not optimal to spend it when you get it. I don't think it's a bad thing to save procs I just think learning it is difficult because it's not clear what you're supposed to do.

I really miss DoT management. I'm tired of SE seeing systems that are broken and rather than fixing them decide to abandon it altogether. Pet ai just needs to not be braindead. WoW figured it out but somehow FFXIV couldn't.

 

[ChromaQuack]

Hardest class is 250 ping NIN.

So many mudra clips resulting in bunnies, have to take it slow like a grandpa, very sad.

To think before 6.2 it didn't happen, I could go hit the alliance raids and just fast-slap mudras like nothing but at some point it got bad enough that I considered I might aswell just become a yabbitmancer and start throwing bomb strapped rabbits at enemies instead of ninja magic.

 

[King Of Braves]

House and apartment with aquariums, I believe you can also store these fishes in itemized aquariums inside your house/apartment storage (apartment one should be permanent unless you decide to move servers, I believe)

I'd have to double check but last time I looked, a lot of boss fish can't even be used in aquariums. You can do prints of them, but they have no actual aquarium models. Now that's not to say that won't change in the future, but right now most of them are functionally worthless. Personally I would just hang on to my favorites and wait to see if they ever get added to aquariums.

 

[Fcret]

I genuinely miss old summoner. It was hectic as shit, but that was the fun of it. Managing DoTs, slamming a zillion weaves - my only problem with it was that if you died, you were mega-fucked due to their resource generation. That, and retarded pet AI eating attacks and taking forever to reliably fire off the buff, which could lead to it eating the cast and throwing it on CD but poofing away for bahamut/phoenix if you weren't careful.

The advantage of old summoner was that it was kinda tuned around the jank. Even being a very mediocre summoner could get you enough DPS to clear most content.

And speaking of punishment for death - I feel like the current burst meta has made a lot of jobs feel like old summoner in that regard.

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Anyway, the PAX East stuff was interesting and I'm glad Yoshi-P can still get up on a stage and admit, "hey maybe we took things a little too far."

 

[I'm Really Feeling It]

Hardest class is 250 ping NIN.

So many mudra clips resulting in bunnies, have to take it slow like a grandpa, very sad.

To think before 6.2 it didn't happen, I could go hit the alliance raids and just fast-slap mudras like nothing but at some point it got bad enough that I considered I might aswell just become a yabbitmancer and start throwing bomb strapped rabbits at enemies instead of ninja magic.

I was going to play a purely mod-free FFXIV, but I had a similar ping to yours (no Region was below 150 ping for me so it wasn't like I chose a bad one), so I was eventually forced to download XIV Alexander. I'm grateful for it, but sadly as is with all community-run mods, it's always one modder tantrum or burnout away from never being usable again. I remember when around EW launch the developers changed the netcode, and for a week or so XIVAlex was unusable with no peep from the creator. It took someone else forking it to fix it.

Such is the MMO life I suppose.

 

[Ravana]

I was progging ucob on summoner and they've gotta do something about having to constantly resummon the carbuncle when you revive.

 

[std::string]

I feel like the class gets a bit of a rap, because you see so many shitters drop leyline and use maybe 5s of it in the DF.

As an AST main I usually get ones that facetank every mechanic because they don't want to lose it.

Which is fine since healing is incredibly easy in DF so I have something to actually do.

 

[King Of Braves]

I was progging ucob on summoner and they've gotta do something about having to constantly resummon the carbuncle when you revive.

It's been that way for a decade so I think you're just SOL on this one.

 

[Kheapathic]

Caught the Warden of the Seven Hues, put it on the marketboard for 3.25M (a nice middle ground on what was already on there). Trying to get any sort of housing in Kugane, but keep losing the lotteries.

Edit: Today was a good day, got Stethacanthus too; only Stormblood fish left is The Ruby Dragon.

 

[Smug Chuckler]

Trying to get any sort of housing in Kugane, but keep losing the lotteries.

What a pity, you probably have better luck winning a medium plot in my server. My neighborhood has like 5 or 6 small plots available now. Activity here has been dying.