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I don't have a picture but Vance's heel/ankle is fucked up and he can barely walk on it. I can say from experience with multiple ankle/feet injuries of varying degrees that he in no way is going to be able to walk around tomorrow without pain meds or something like that. He is fucked.
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Letty W fucking up the competition so she's guaranteed in the final two.
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OH NO BWOS
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If he wore a shirt it wouldn't be *as bad*. But just that bare flab flubbering around is just...
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This is a rough recap of the Letty gossip events tonight. This gets more and more retarded as you keep reading, so good luck. These events happened shortly after Letty was discussing with chat about confronting Jon, because, as she claimed, “somebody has to be the adult.” This is one of the most ridiculous cases of Letty shittalking I’ve seen lol.
Roughly 30 minutes ago Letty confronted Jon in B2 about everything. Mostly the drama they’ve been having since he left. She talked about the fact that Jon is clearly listening to social media and Vance whenever he insults her, and that she never said anything about him that was untrue. She reveals that she was always on Jon’s side even when everyone was against him. She also talked about how she never betrayed Jon and highlights that she told Jon when Vance was planning on teaming with her to get Jon out. She points out that Jon betrayed her when she stayed loyal to him by telling Vance about her revealing the info of his eventual betrayal to Jon. Jon weakly responds that it was to “see how Vance reacted to the information.”
Now, I’m not going to lie, Jon seemed genuinely shell shocked after she revealed all of that. He was dead silent. Letty asked him multiple times what he was thinking, and Jon just said that he was deep in thought. He went into multiple minutes worth of silence. Jon straight up asks her what she wants him to say. Letty says that she just wants him to tell her what he’s honestly thinking. Jon then asks that they go to a private place in order to discuss the topic further. They then go to the upstairs bathroom. They have a back and forth that is largely unintelligible until Ben comes up and tells them to repeat everything in front of a camera. They both leave the bathroom smiling. Vance was eavesdropping on this whole thing.
Letty asks Jon if he wants to shake hands, presumably as a way to bury the hatchet. Jon says that he doesn’t want to shake hands. Letty is ok with this and says she understands, presuming that all has been forgiven between them. She of course thought wrong.
Jon goes into B2 with Vance and they both (shit) talk about Letty. Jon brings up the foot massaging incident and tells Vance he didn’t think Letty was joking. He then claims it was completely unprompted and he still dislikes her for it. Jon says it would be a joke if a guy were to say it but since Letty did it it was far too sexual. Make of that what you will. Vance agrees with Jon’s assessment, and mentions the time when he actively went into her room to fuck with her along with Hassle. Letty of course fought back by flirting with Vance, aware that it was his weakness, making Vance, at least according to him, very uncomfortable. He believes it was uncalled for. I’d like to point out the hypocrisy of Vance feeling uncomfortable with Letty flirting with him, yet him being completely ok with her being splashed with toilet water.
Jon mentions that the house is becoming like a zoo with the involvement of human fluids and feces. They continue with the Letty derangement syndrome with Vance actively telling Jon that Letty has been directly involved with the piss and shit incidents in the house more so than she’s letting on, seemingly avoiding Hassle's name as much as possible to pin the blame on Letty. Jon also believes that Letty had a cell phone, despite this literally never being proven. HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES DAMIEL WAS THE ONE WHO FOUND THE PHONE, NOT THE ONE WHO HAD IT ORIGINALLY!!! Now get this, They both outright state that Letty was the one who swatted the house. Yes, really. Jon says that the police during the swatting event said something along the lines of “somebody here gave us a call.” therefore it must have been Letty. Vance agrees with Jon.
Jon continues mocking Letty by insulting the conversation they just had with each other in which Letty presumed they were on good terms. Jon says that he knew about every time Letty has lied to him, and that even though Vance betrayed him, “he did what he had to do.” Jon then says that Letty is going too far, and that the things she’s doing aren’t necessary. Jon, somehow, still believes that Letty is trying to trick him, and that Vance is just le wholesome and so heckin genuine. It seems like Jon doesn’t want to acknowledge Vance’s shortcomings, but is all over any mistake Letty makes. Jon finishes by critiquing Letty for asking to shake hands in order to make up. He states it was weird, and most likely believes it was sexual. Jon seemingly believes that any physical contact with a woman is sexual in some way, which is weird, because he engaged Letty in a tickle fight during his stay at the house.
Vance says that Letty was responsible for his ankle pain and that he’s annoyed about it (reminder, Vance vehemently accepted Letty’s apology in regards to the ankle incident and stated that she was just doing what the producers told her) Vance and Jon agree that she crossed a boundary. Vance says he would never dump food on anybody, in reference to Letty fucking with him and Josie by pouring condiments on them, but he believes he did in the past in defense. Jon and Vance say that Letty isn’t doing her antics just for the show and that she’s just being “who she is.” Vance says that when she gets out of the house her influence will not be positive and that she’s being a bad person. Vance said that a lot of the things happening on the show are getting to her head. Jon then starts talking about retarded antics he got into outside of the house regarding social media for the remainder of the conversation.
Here’s my opinion on the event if anyone cares.
Roughly 30 minutes ago Letty confronted Jon in B2 about everything. Mostly the drama they’ve been having since he left. She talked about the fact that Jon is clearly listening to social media and Vance whenever he insults her, and that she never said anything about him that was untrue. She reveals that she was always on Jon’s side even when everyone was against him. She also talked about how she never betrayed Jon and highlights that she told Jon when Vance was planning on teaming with her to get Jon out. She points out that Jon betrayed her when she stayed loyal to him by telling Vance about her revealing the info of his eventual betrayal to Jon. Jon weakly responds that it was to “see how Vance reacted to the information.”
Now, I’m not going to lie, Jon seemed genuinely shell shocked after she revealed all of that. He was dead silent. Letty asked him multiple times what he was thinking, and Jon just said that he was deep in thought. He went into multiple minutes worth of silence. Jon straight up asks her what she wants him to say. Letty says that she just wants him to tell her what he’s honestly thinking. Jon then asks that they go to a private place in order to discuss the topic further. They then go to the upstairs bathroom. They have a back and forth that is largely unintelligible until Ben comes up and tells them to repeat everything in front of a camera. They both leave the bathroom smiling. Vance was eavesdropping on this whole thing.
Letty asks Jon if he wants to shake hands, presumably as a way to bury the hatchet. Jon says that he doesn’t want to shake hands. Letty is ok with this and says she understands, presuming that all has been forgiven between them. She of course thought wrong.
Jon goes into B2 with Vance and they both (shit) talk about Letty. Jon brings up the foot massaging incident and tells Vance he didn’t think Letty was joking. He then claims it was completely unprompted and he still dislikes her for it. Jon says it would be a joke if a guy were to say it but since Letty did it it was far too sexual. Make of that what you will. Vance agrees with Jon’s assessment, and mentions the time when he actively went into her room to fuck with her along with Hassle. Letty of course fought back by flirting with Vance, aware that it was his weakness, making Vance, at least according to him, very uncomfortable. He believes it was uncalled for. I’d like to point out the hypocrisy of Vance feeling uncomfortable with Letty flirting with him, yet him being completely ok with her being splashed with toilet water.
Jon mentions that the house is becoming like a zoo with the involvement of human fluids and feces. They continue with the Letty derangement syndrome with Vance actively telling Jon that Letty has been directly involved with the piss and shit incidents in the house more so than she’s letting on, seemingly avoiding Hassle's name as much as possible to pin the blame on Letty. Jon also believes that Letty had a cell phone, despite this literally never being proven. HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES DAMIEL WAS THE ONE WHO FOUND THE PHONE, NOT THE ONE WHO HAD IT ORIGINALLY!!! Now get this, They both outright state that Letty was the one who swatted the house. Yes, really. Jon says that the police during the swatting event said something along the lines of “somebody here gave us a call.” therefore it must have been Letty. Vance agrees with Jon.
Jon continues mocking Letty by insulting the conversation they just had with each other in which Letty presumed they were on good terms. Jon says that he knew about every time Letty has lied to him, and that even though Vance betrayed him, “he did what he had to do.” Jon then says that Letty is going too far, and that the things she’s doing aren’t necessary. Jon, somehow, still believes that Letty is trying to trick him, and that Vance is just le wholesome and so heckin genuine. It seems like Jon doesn’t want to acknowledge Vance’s shortcomings, but is all over any mistake Letty makes. Jon finishes by critiquing Letty for asking to shake hands in order to make up. He states it was weird, and most likely believes it was sexual. Jon seemingly believes that any physical contact with a woman is sexual in some way, which is weird, because he engaged Letty in a tickle fight during his stay at the house.
Vance says that Letty was responsible for his ankle pain and that he’s annoyed about it (reminder, Vance vehemently accepted Letty’s apology in regards to the ankle incident and stated that she was just doing what the producers told her) Vance and Jon agree that she crossed a boundary. Vance says he would never dump food on anybody, in reference to Letty fucking with him and Josie by pouring condiments on them, but he believes he did in the past in defense. Jon and Vance say that Letty isn’t doing her antics just for the show and that she’s just being “who she is.” Vance says that when she gets out of the house her influence will not be positive and that she’s being a bad person. Vance said that a lot of the things happening on the show are getting to her head. Jon then starts talking about retarded antics he got into outside of the house regarding social media for the remainder of the conversation.
Here’s my opinion on the event if anyone cares.
Jon and Vance are actual snakes. This isn’t some justified shit talk. I could understand this conversation being had if Letty somehow betrayed them, but she’s been open with them about her emotions and has consistently tried to stay in their good graces. Both Vance and Jon made up with Letty on the exact same night, and Letty was the one who initiated these apologies. She tried to be the bigger person, and go directly against the idea that she’s a manipulator and a snake, opinions that Jon and Vance have of her. All she asked for in return was forgiveness for crimes she didn’t even commit, and somehow, Jon and Vance not only spin this against her, but make some of the most outrageous claims ever said on this show. Letty swatting the house? Really??? There's not even a point to shit talk to this degree, as it doesn't increase the chance of her elimination. Jon was already going to target her.
I want to really go into Vance here, because he’s a functional human being and doesn’t have a mental disability to fall back on (not saying that Jon is free from criticism here, I just can’t be fucked). Throughout this show Vance has always tried to be the nice guy. He cannot stand the idea of somebody being against him, so this has made him into a “yes” man, or in this case a “yeah man.” He goes along with the group to make them happy. We saw this during the Hassle dog pile incident against Letty. Then, after the incident took place, Vance went to Letty in order to make sure she was ok, not out of concern for her well being, but because of his fragile ego. He literally stated that he didn’t really hate her (even though he participated in the dog piling), and actively tried to deny any claim made by Letty saying that he told her she deserved toilet water in her face (spoiler, he did say that). Any type of hypocrisy pointed out by Letty was met with either silence or “I was just fucking with you bro, it’s just a game.” Basically, he’s a fucking pussy. No stance Vance is the perfect nickname for him. This isn’t the first time he did this either. Remember when he really hated Jon? Despite this he actively tried to pretend to be friends with Jon when they were in the same vicinity. But when Jon’s back was turned he would constantly shit talk him with his chigger friend. He’s a cuck who can’t stand for anything he believes in. He tries to avoid face to face conflict and is constantly two faced. He just drones on and on about how strong he is, his ego constantly being fueled by retarded fans. Despite this, he is never pushed to his limit by any freeloader, and has cowered out of getting his beard shaved. If anybody thinks this man deserves to win they are most likely a castrated man, a cuck, or retarded. If you’re gonna be an asshole, fucking own it.
Jon is incapable of forgiving Letty at this point I believe. He has been manipulated to the point where he cannot recognize it. I get he's a retard, but most people when confronted with evidence of Vance and Damiel shit talking would at least acknowledge that they are snakes on a similar level to Letty. Jon doesn't do this. He frames any schemeful action by Letty as succubus behavior, but Vance doing the same is just "him doing what he has to do." I'm not sure why this is. Maybe he doesn't want to piss off his e-daddy Andrew Tate or some shit. Maybe he has feelings for her and doesn't want to accept them, so as a way to cope he bullies her like younger children do to their crushes. Maybe he's incapable of recognizing hypocrisy. I genuinely don't know and would like to see theories for this retardation.
I want to really go into Vance here, because he’s a functional human being and doesn’t have a mental disability to fall back on (not saying that Jon is free from criticism here, I just can’t be fucked). Throughout this show Vance has always tried to be the nice guy. He cannot stand the idea of somebody being against him, so this has made him into a “yes” man, or in this case a “yeah man.” He goes along with the group to make them happy. We saw this during the Hassle dog pile incident against Letty. Then, after the incident took place, Vance went to Letty in order to make sure she was ok, not out of concern for her well being, but because of his fragile ego. He literally stated that he didn’t really hate her (even though he participated in the dog piling), and actively tried to deny any claim made by Letty saying that he told her she deserved toilet water in her face (spoiler, he did say that). Any type of hypocrisy pointed out by Letty was met with either silence or “I was just fucking with you bro, it’s just a game.” Basically, he’s a fucking pussy. No stance Vance is the perfect nickname for him. This isn’t the first time he did this either. Remember when he really hated Jon? Despite this he actively tried to pretend to be friends with Jon when they were in the same vicinity. But when Jon’s back was turned he would constantly shit talk him with his chigger friend. He’s a cuck who can’t stand for anything he believes in. He tries to avoid face to face conflict and is constantly two faced. He just drones on and on about how strong he is, his ego constantly being fueled by retarded fans. Despite this, he is never pushed to his limit by any freeloader, and has cowered out of getting his beard shaved. If anybody thinks this man deserves to win they are most likely a castrated man, a cuck, or retarded. If you’re gonna be an asshole, fucking own it.
Jon is incapable of forgiving Letty at this point I believe. He has been manipulated to the point where he cannot recognize it. I get he's a retard, but most people when confronted with evidence of Vance and Damiel shit talking would at least acknowledge that they are snakes on a similar level to Letty. Jon doesn't do this. He frames any schemeful action by Letty as succubus behavior, but Vance doing the same is just "him doing what he has to do." I'm not sure why this is. Maybe he doesn't want to piss off his e-daddy Andrew Tate or some shit. Maybe he has feelings for her and doesn't want to accept them, so as a way to cope he bullies her like younger children do to their crushes. Maybe he's incapable of recognizing hypocrisy. I genuinely don't know and would like to see theories for this retardation.
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Having heard both Josie and Vance talk about the challenge independently tonight here are some of their thoughts. This is from Josie in the confessional and in her bedroom and Vance in the kitchen and B2 with Jon.
Josie
The night before and morning of the challenge, she expressed that the immunity challenge is extremely important to her as it will likely decide the ultimate victor indirectly.
She feels a bit bad because Vance was dealing with Goldstriker and Ben harassment on top of the usual challenge. Vance apologized before trying to manhandle the chair to sabotage her. This did make her angry and resulted in Josie pushing back which ultimately paid off but took a long time.
She was starting to lose hope because Vance is so much stronger than her and it was dragging on so long, she got lucky when she unintentionally caused him to trip up.
She believes some of the TTS she got was from her mom and friends back home which motivated her substantially throughout.
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Vance
Disappointed and thinks they had it out for him but respects Josie for hanging in for so long and really didn't want to go too hard on her during the challenge. His leg/ankle is very sore from the weight Letty put on there but he isn't even sure it was her who did it at this point. In any case, he is upset that he had to put up with that and thinks he would have been fine if not for that.
Of course he's bothered by the beard trolling but wasn't sure if they were seriously going for him or not and started to see it more as a game than a serious attempt. This did serve as a catalyst for him trying to finish the gamer sooner which resulted in him pushing Josie around which he says he felt bad about doing.
He says he'll be fine but he needs to step it up and be more interesting if he wants to stick around.
His leg is bothering him.
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Josie, Vance and Letty each independently acknowledged that the other two are strong competition at this point. They all seem to have gained a healthy respect for each other's abilities today and don't count out anyone yet.
Letty thinks her elimination was bullshit and I agree but I have to wonder if Sam was removing her from the equation so it'd be easier to focus on the other two.
Josie
The night before and morning of the challenge, she expressed that the immunity challenge is extremely important to her as it will likely decide the ultimate victor indirectly.
She feels a bit bad because Vance was dealing with Goldstriker and Ben harassment on top of the usual challenge. Vance apologized before trying to manhandle the chair to sabotage her. This did make her angry and resulted in Josie pushing back which ultimately paid off but took a long time.
She was starting to lose hope because Vance is so much stronger than her and it was dragging on so long, she got lucky when she unintentionally caused him to trip up.
She believes some of the TTS she got was from her mom and friends back home which motivated her substantially throughout.
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Vance
Disappointed and thinks they had it out for him but respects Josie for hanging in for so long and really didn't want to go too hard on her during the challenge. His leg/ankle is very sore from the weight Letty put on there but he isn't even sure it was her who did it at this point. In any case, he is upset that he had to put up with that and thinks he would have been fine if not for that.
Of course he's bothered by the beard trolling but wasn't sure if they were seriously going for him or not and started to see it more as a game than a serious attempt. This did serve as a catalyst for him trying to finish the gamer sooner which resulted in him pushing Josie around which he says he felt bad about doing.
He says he'll be fine but he needs to step it up and be more interesting if he wants to stick around.
His leg is bothering him.
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Josie, Vance and Letty each independently acknowledged that the other two are strong competition at this point. They all seem to have gained a healthy respect for each other's abilities today and don't count out anyone yet.
Letty thinks her elimination was bullshit and I agree but I have to wonder if Sam was removing her from the equation so it'd be easier to focus on the other two.
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Holy shit idiots are actually donating to this shit.
It's written so poorly I almost think Chris himself wrote it. But then again he couldn't spell 'talking' on his shitty sign soo...
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Letty was calling him a fake bitch for not wanting to shake hands lol (forgot what she said exactly I was half asleep) but she was quite upset and slightly angry when he said no. She did that stand stiff like a board thing she does when she gets mad and I was excited thinking she was going to get revenge on him by pissing on his stuff.
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Yeah, and this is exactly why Vance sucks and why Letty deserves to win. No wonder Sam keeps looking at Vance in frustration, he's a total soy boy.
Jon is an idiot and extremely gullible. I love him but he is very easy to manipulate. Letty is no saint but she was the only one (besides Josie?) that took up for him and wasn't two faced about him.
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The friar tuck haircut and his neck gunt makes it look like he has a second siamese twin's head on the back of his own head.
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My only theory is that this somehow ties into Jon's Tate/MGTOW stuff. Jon really seems to lack any understanding of how women should be treated, which is really confusing because it seems like he has a sister he is close to. Given the way we saw Jon thirst after attention from Goldstriker I think Jon's need to be accepted by other men combined with his disdain for women(that even he doesn't understand because he's simply monkey-see monkey-doing Tate / e-PUA shite) is influencing his fear/distrust/better-word-here for women.
Letty has plenty of issues, but the boys aren't judging her or holding her accountable on those. They are projecting some other spectres onto her to rationalize their own lack of spine.
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Idubbbz is a cuck, but he was right about Fatty.
A year from now, maybe 2-3 years he will turn on Sam and beg for more money because Sam didn't support his standup comedy career.
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yeah, the whole time i've really had the itching feeling that jon's (and sam's, and possibly the rest of the FTL's fanbase) treatment of letty is like the redpill/MGTOW pendulum swinging so hard in the anti-simp direction that it becomes, for once, legitimate misogyny. she must be typecast into the crazy BPD girl stereotype, therefore everything she does is immediately of the devil and "exactly the type of girl sam warned about" and not actions to be judged of their own accord.
the key thing to keep in mind is, as always, "how would people react if it were a man doing this?". this question is often specifically used against ridiculous feminist or women's rights stuff to illustrate the fact that much of it is hiding behind the veil of femininity to slip by unnoticed; but in this case, it does the opposite: if letty were a man, she would probably be deemed as entertaining and content creating as jon, and probably be similarly championed as a result. the fact that she sits in the complete polar opposite position just on the basis of being a woman and having been pidgeonholed into a currently socially relevant personality archetype really speaks to the huge fucking problem that so many MDE fans have with women, and probably the steadily worsening state of gender relations as a whole as more and more people are introduced to this sort of MRA content and unthinkingly consume it as gospel.
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If Letty were a man we'd call her a bitch nigger Incel lol. Or a soyboy like Vance since they act almost similarly.
We ignore Josie in these types of argument because she's a chad and doesn't overreact to literally nothing, even when it's something that should garner a reaction it's quickly brushed aside because she enters "clean the pee pee poo poo" mode and moves on with her day.
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Great post. Letty derangement syndrome and No stance Vance, lol so true.
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New poll. Its allegedly been implemented. Set up to annoy any Season Pass holder who talks in the chat. I can't confirm it works but all of chat is either @ someone or being asked to be @'ed.