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[Da R00D D00D]

Would he though? Sam was practically begging him to stop being so boring and kept trying to push him to be a bigger menace in his final challenge and he couldn't cut it.

That's fine that he doesn't have it in him to do that sort of stuff, most people don't, but how is he going to dickride Sam and Frank for their comedy and then say Letty is immoral for being willing to go there too.

Pretty sure he's just jealous and disappointed with himself and he seems to have taken his time in the tank pretty hard. It must have killed him to see Sam and Jet gushing over what a great job Letty did.

I heard some people say that Vance was genuinely afraid of getting cancelled or that something would happen to his gf as a consequence of shit he did on the show. Dunno if that's true or not but it would kind of make sense. Vance has proved himself to be pretty good when he genuinely tries but it felt to me that the last 3 or so weeks before he left just kind of gave up and didn't try much to do anything unless forced to and then all that moralfagging at the end about how he couldn't live with himself if he did something to fuck josie over or something. Just made for a really disappointing top 3 and honestly a really disappointing top 2, if Vance was there vs Letty I think he would've gone into overdrive to win especially considering how much he hates Letty.

 

[Punitive Castration]

Would he though? Sam was practically begging him to stop being so boring and kept trying to push him to be a bigger menace in his final challenge and he couldn't cut it.

That's fine that he doesn't have it in him to do that sort of stuff, most people don't, but how is he going to dickride Sam and Frank for their comedy and then say Letty is immoral for being willing to go there too.

Pretty sure he's just jealous and disappointed with himself and he seems to have taken his time in the tank pretty hard. It must have killed him to see Sam and Jet gushing over what a great job Letty did.

After the immunity challenge Vance was saying that he "didn't need immunity" and that he wasn't especially worried about knocking Letty out via making her quit or beating her in challenges. And in the Twitter space someone asked him what he would have done differently and he said he would have been meaner to Letty, and he said he thought he had done enough to win the menace challenge.

I think he somehow didn't have the full picture even though Sam told him that a Josie/Vance final was not possible. From his perspective he was the MDE favorite because of the WP2 outing and Letty was just the mean gameshow shark who was ruining Jet's retard foster home. He also said that he thinks (I guess he didn't check Jet's poll data) that he had more fans than Letty at that point, so he was letting fear of damaging that override his instructions to bully Josie.

Sam recognized Letty and demonstrated her status to the fish by being completely ruthless to her in a way they would have read as her being beneath them. I think that watching those Sam-and-Letty shows shorted Vance out, he always understood gaslighting when he saw it except for when it seemed to him that Sam was ordaining Letty should be eliminated. Compared to five or so weeks of Sam reiterating that Letty is a bug that eats dust, a floor pig, and unworthy, one day of Sam warning him that she was in pole position didn't change his view.

It's what makes the whole "Team Evil" dynamic so retarded - it was the whole house against the supposed weakest fish and easiest target, and then one by one the weakest fish crushed all but one of them. They thought it would be a one-round alliance and then after weeks of defeats still didn't process that they had been in a position of desperation the whole time.

 

[BeetleBug242]

Sam absolutely gives off theater kid vibes. I should know In would in a heart beat I'd play Jason Goldstriker simply to break shit in character. I asked to be a plant for season two, I know for a fact that if we all came up with bits it would be non stop chaos. I could do it, I have always wanted to do some bat shit insane performance art just because I can.

 

[Rungle]

They already talking of a season 2, cant wait.
(Hope they'll make fishtoys more affordable)

 

[Punitive Castration]

They already talking of a season 2, cant wait.
(Hope they'll make fishtoys more affordable)

I saw a good suggestion either here or somewhere else- increase the price of a fishtoy by a lot, but let people donate coins to it and award it once it's full. People would still whale to sink the toy when they want it to pop but there would be more purpose to having small denominations of fish tokens if they can be used to help fund "take Damiel's bed away" or "shark attack Jon" etc

 

[Angry Shoes]

I was initially a bit annoyed when watching the ending live. The 'fakeout' was obvious and was a weak rehash of a bit they did a week ago, and the part where Josie brings Sam the plushie was so heavily scripted it was immersion-breaking. Yes I know there have been other planned/scripted bits but this one in particular was a bit more heavy-handed. However it was funny to Sam talk shit about the fans, even though it was a bit there was clearly some real vitriol there. And after letting it sit I'd still call it a satisfying ending, with the two most interesting fish being the final two and both of them being rewarded for what they brought to the show.

The show definitely had it's weak points. I'll probably post about the more negitive things that need improvement when I have more time but overall this was something truly special and the highs were incredible. This was a massive risk and I'm glad it paid off for Sam and the wigger squad.

 

[Spatula]

What's the final score on Letty vs The House 5-1?

 

[JamusActimus]

Hope they can find fresh fishes

In general the best fishes tend to be the weirdos that don't know much about Hyde.
Twitter fan orbiters having watched season 1 would not be great fishes.

I really wonder how they approached and recruited season 1 fishes

Also I really don't want to see people come back. The second time some of the magic goes away and it's unfair to the other fishes.
Maybe an all star season with returning freeloader as fishes.

 

[Noble Redditor]

I'll probably post about the more negitive things that need improvement when I have more time

This thread is twelve hundred pages. Everyone knows what was done wrong and what mistakes were made. Even the biggest fans of the show have been pretty critical throughout the experience, for good reason. There is nothing that hasn't been said.

The ending saved the show. It was really well done, with great vibes. Nobody will ever top what Sam Hyde is able to pull off. This proves it. Even though everything seemed like it was constantly unraveling from the very first day it all came together perfectly in the end.

Also Vance sucks and is a loser. I bet his WP2 performance was really weak and gets cut lol.

 

[Roak]

I'm kinda impressed Chris was willing to confront Sam during the fake freakout, especially since he thought Sam was serious.

 

[Nicholas II of Russia]

Congratulations to Josie and massive props to all the team who worked in this amazing project. Looking forward to season two, I hope that it becomes equal or even better than this season.

 

[GET!]

Some guy on the subreddit got some data on the numbers Fishtank did and daaaaaaamn
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Credit to: https://www.reddit.com/user/Immediate_Bug_3437

https://www.reddit.com/r/fishtanklive/comments/13veejf/oc_fishtank_viewers_graph_stats_in_comments/

I didn't see if anybody had tried turning these figures into money yet so I did some reaaaaally quick calculations:

Spoiler: Spurious financial mathematics

Using $25 as the TTS figure since it's unknown how many were sent before/after the price change (meaning actual figure is likely higher than estimated)
The fishtoy prices were significantly different from each other, and changed throughout show, so the value cannot be reasonably estimated.

Assuming numbers are completely accurate and 0 chargebacks (not the case):
Season passes: 12,981 x 40 = $519,240
TTS: 44,290 x 25 = $1,107,250
SFX: 2,343 x 25 = $58,575
Fishtoys: 482 x ????? = $?????
TOTAL:
$1.68 million (+ fishtoys)

Assuming 30% chargebacks (completely asspulled figure):
$1.176 million (+ fishtoys)

Now I don't know how much the house cost, or how much they spent on hosting (probably the main expense), but considering the total prize pool was under $100,000 I'd say they made a tidy profit. However, split between the producers and after paying the crew it was probably not exactly a fortune, though still a highly respectable amount of money for 6 weeks work or so.

Edit: also josiegang

 

[Steinercard]

haven't found anyone seething on twitter but found these little gems

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God's Strongest Retard is starting his redemption arc strong.

 

[idkcumiguess]

I didn't see if anybody had tried turning these figures into money yet so I did some reaaaaally quick calculations:

Spoiler: Spurious financial mathematics

Using $25 as the TTS figure since it's unknown how many were sent before/after the price change (meaning actual figure is likely higher than estimated)
The fishtoy prices were significantly different from each other, and changed throughout show, so the value cannot be reasonably estimated.

Assuming numbers are completely accurate and 0 chargebacks (not the case):
Season passes: 12,981 x 40 = $519,240
TTS: 44,290 x 25 = $1,107,250
SFX: 2,343 x 25 = $58,575
Fishtoys: 482 x ????? = $?????
TOTAL:
$1.68 million (+ fishtoys)

Assuming 30% chargebacks (completely asspulled figure):
$1.176 million (+ fishtoys)

Now I don't know how much the house cost, or how much they spent on hosting (probably the main expense), but considering the total prize pool was under $100,000 I'd say they made a tidy profit. However, split between the producers and after paying the crew it was probably not exactly a fortune, though still a highly respectable amount of money for 6 weeks work or so.

At one point at the end I think Jet mentioned the show cost them 250k to host.

 

[Punitive Castration]

What's the final score on Letty vs The House 5-1?

Jon- Round one Jon lost to the house and the sharks and TTS, more than Letty. Round two she confirmed that if he had stuck around she would have broken him.
Damiel- I'm still convinced that if he wasn't a plant per se, he was given specific strategic goals and a deadline on which he had to go home. In that B4 bathroom conversation he had with Vance that we weren't supposed to be able to hear, he said his baby was due on the 14th and he had an irritated reaction when we (us retards in the Sneedchat) asked him about it in front of the other fish. And the fish caught him confusing his lies about how far along his baby mama was more than once. Plus the phone thing and the coming back thing as well as just my observation that he occasionally would tell the fish what it is okay or not okay to do as though he were a producer sometimes.
I think his instruction was to take out someone, and having exhausted the nuclear option against Letty with no greater weapon to use, he tapped out.
Sylvia- it barely needs to be said but the more Sylvia was around Letty the worse Sylvia's popularity got.
Vance- I said it a hundred times so I won't say it again but he overestimated his value and underestimated hers. He sacrificed his own advancement into the final assuming the popularity he did not have would save him and that his wee brain could think of something to do to Letty that hadn't already happened to her, and failed.

After losing four of them and chipping away at Letty without making much of a mark and in fact feeding her and making her stronger, it seemed to me like what actually caused Letty to lose to Josie was 1) period cramps and 2) Josie weighing more. Letty lost a lot of challenges she probably shouldn't have lost because she was so drained. Literally that's it. It's not much of a W for Josie.

 

[Noble Redditor]

At one point at the end I think Jet mentioned the show cost them 250k to host.

Yeah, during the closing speeches he said Sam gave him access to 250k. Not sure if that's what he actually spent or if that's just the budget.

Frank said that he had stayed at this house years prior while working with Sam. BG Kumbi said he had been there before while working with Sam. I don't know if Sam owns the house but it's definitely not something he rented just for this show.

 

[CoolFool]

Would he though? Sam was practically begging him to stop being so boring and kept trying to push him to be a bigger menace in his final challenge and he couldn't cut it.

That's fine that he doesn't have it in him to do that sort of stuff, most people don't, but how is he going to dickride Sam and Frank for their comedy and then say Letty is immoral for being willing to go there too.

Pretty sure he's just jealous and disappointed with himself and he seems to have taken his time in the tank pretty hard. It must have killed him to see Sam and Jet gushing over what a great job Letty did.

I think Vance will do anything when directly told, even if he doesn't want to. I don't buy Vance's nice guy act. Like, in general I can agree he's nice and I'm not saying he's an evil guy or anything, but I also know he is the type that will give into peer pressure, especially among men he wants to impress. He's the type of guy that is nice enough and avoids conflict whenever he can, but in times when he has to make a choice, he'll choose to do whatever is popular over whatever he personally believes. I thought he was a wimp for not shaving his beard, but did respect that he stood up for himself (for once!) and refused to do it despite the immense pressure. But even that didn't last, he eventually shaved it after enough pressure.

Vance knows he can't win fans by trying to be the toughest, funniest, or most clever fish, so instead he's trying to come off as the nicest fish, since being "nice" is all he really has. Seeing Sam and Jet talk about how Letty is not actually a freak, is not evil, and that her willing to endure hate and torture to save the show has to sting. I'm sure it bruises his ego to see little Letty not only stick it out and endure way more than what giant Vance did, but it also hurts him to hear Sam nearly cry about how great she is.

 

[Aidan]

I'm kinda impressed Chris was willing to confront Sam during the fake freakout, especially since he thought Sam was serious.
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He was told to by Jet. That said I think he handled himself pretty well and it was still nice of him to do. Still hate him.

 

[Spatula]

Jon- Round one Jon lost to the house and the sharks and TTS, more than Letty. Round two she confirmed that if he had stuck around she would have broken him.
Damiel- I'm still convinced that if he wasn't a plant per se, he was given specific strategic goals and a deadline on which he had to go home. In that B4 bathroom conversation he had with Vance that we weren't supposed to be able to hear, he said his baby was due on the 14th and he had an irritated reaction when we (us retards in the Sneedchat) asked him about it in front of the other fish. And the fish caught him confusing his lies about how far along his baby mama was more than once. Plus the phone thing and the coming back thing as well as just my observation that he occasionally would tell the fish what it is okay or not okay to do as though he were a producer sometimes.
I think his instruction was to take out someone, and having exhausted the nuclear option against Letty with no greater weapon to use, he tapped out.
Sylvia- it barely needs to be said but the more Sylvia was around Letty the worse Sylvia's popularity got.
Vance- I said it a hundred times so I won't say it again but he overestimated his value and underestimated hers. He sacrificed his own advancement into the final assuming the popularity he did not have would save him and that his wee brain could think of something to do to Letty that hadn't already happened to her, and failed.

After losing four of them and chipping away at Letty without making much of a mark and in fact feeding her and making her stronger, it seemed to me like what actually caused Letty to lose to Josie was 1) period cramps and 2) Josie weighing more. Letty lost a lot of challenges she probably shouldn't have lost because she was so drained. Literally that's it. It's not much of a W for Josie.

You forgot Betty. She is actually stupid, and had the task to mess with Letty some more, instead she couldnt think of anything clever to say so she flashed her tits, said nigger a bunch and pulled the revenge porn card. After that Jet gave her a little talk, she cried, pretended to sleep and left.

 

[Rob Wolchek]

It is a real shame that this site went down around the same time this show started getting insane with the freeloader shit. It made it difficult to catch up on but thankfully Tor isn't as shit as it has been. I think season 1 had it's highlights, there's definitely a lot of things that need to be fixed but I can't be fucked right now to type all those out.

Something I will say is season 2 should be a mix-bag of 12 contestants, 6 are random autistic people, 3 are relatively known internet e-celebs and the last 3 are from season 1 who didn't win (no simmons, no damiel fuck both of them). Replace the 2 story house with a bigger flatter single story house, actually conceal where the fuck it is this time and make the confessional/diary room public access, and less producers interacting, more sharks with their identities concealed doing shit without verbal interaction. I think this show will build a loyal following, season 1 already has countless incels, NEETs and other nobody retards hooked including myself but they can definitely do better with the production seeing as they've got the money to do it.