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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 56 7.3%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 87 11.4%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 169 22.1%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 405 53.0%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.2%

  • Total voters
    764
that one dude who's friends with Sam and Jet did nothing but contribute to Letty dogpiling,
Brandon Buckingham, yep. I think Buckingham had some pretty major faults. When he was in the house the PSAT backpacks were still around and Frank grabbed one and threw it and Brandon shouted something like "Don't! What if there's a laptop in there?"
Like... dude.

At like 3 AM that night Letty asked Vance who Buckingham is because he literally never introduced himself. It actually came off as kind of disturbing because she didn't know whether he was staying overnight so her perception was that in the cage she is trapped and sleeping in, there is a man wandering around who hasn't even said hi to her yet.
The few decent freeloaders were largely nobodies, and I prefer it that way. It makes things unpredictable.
I think it also gave them something to prove. Like Tyson was trying to first deliver on the Lance bit but then also have a memorable impact so that people would take an interest in his content.

Meanwhile someone like Frank shows up and it's like hiring a clown. Like, okay we ordered Frank Hassle, come do your Frank Hassle thing for us. And then Frank gets ticked off because he can't quite deliver Frank Hassle to the audience because of the way the tank is but can't pivot.
put your reputation on hold for the sake of entertaining. I do not think Leafy has this capability, just like Damiel didn't have it. Damiel thought being a dick while barely doing anything would've been enough, and he got btfo'd by a retard on day 3. He then got btfo'd by a frail woman the next time he returned.
I don't know Leafy that well but I imagine that's probably exactly how it would go.

You definitely nailed the issue with Damiel. He would try to preface it like, I'm the cool guy, they're the losers, so it's justified. But Damiel wasn't disproportionately cool, and even completely naive, retarded people will start to get the leg up in the eyes of an antagonistic audience if justice is on their side.
I think a few of the freeloaders were quoting Jet when they said their job was to "make the fish uncomfortable," and I think the worst of them (and Damiel) misinterpreted that as "be evil." It means be annoying, provoking, take up space, take the spotlight away, don't just walk around aggressing.
In my opinion Leafy will fall into this latter group. He believes he has an aura around him and that he has to prove he's a cool edge lord who doesn't care about what people think. This will ultimately result in him being a bad freeloader. If he is on the show I can only hope he gets owned by a retard similarly to Damiel.
Yeah based on what I've heard he's going to show up and be like Alex Stein at first, hardcore doing a character and completely unbelievable to the fish. And then from there just the worst of Brandon Buckingham, lashing out completely at random without understanding why he's doing it and to whom. And then when you want a big moment were everyone is like "leafy why would you shit on my luggage" he can only go "because Jet said I should make you uncomfortable."
 
I've been thinking this for some time but at this point I'm convinced her parents are sheltering her for... reasons. Probably for the best.
I doubt her parents are sheltering her much if at all. Josie was able to get herself on an Internet game show without any protest, her parents WATCHED the show and apparently never tried to get in contact to see if she was okay or that she needed to be pulled out. She stayed in RI and hung out with a bunch of dudes she just met to get a content creator bootcamp, then she flew home and almost immediately went to LA for an expo where fans would definitely be there to see her in person. Also there's her alcohol problem, social reclusiveness, and self-harm stuff that happened well before Fishtank

Not trying to say her parents are negligent but they don't seem like the type to keep a super tight lid on their daughter and what she's up to
 
I doubt her parents are sheltering her much if at all. Josie was able to get herself on an Internet game show without any protest, her parents WATCHED the show and apparently never tried to get in contact to see if she was okay or that she needed to be pulled out. She stayed in RI and hung out with a bunch of dudes she just met to get a content creator bootcamp, then she flew home and almost immediately went to LA for an expo where fans would definitely be there to see her in person. Also there's her alcohol problem, social reclusiveness, and self-harm stuff that happened well before Fishtank

Not trying to say her parents are negligent but they don't seem like the type to keep a super tight lid on their daughter and what she's up to
I don't mean keeping a tight lid, I mean sheltering her from responsibilities. Josie is basically a teenager who can get a job if she wants to have spending money. They fuel her bad habits, took months to begin getting her car fixed (I think on purpose) and allowed her to do drunk, loud karaoke for over 3 hours late at night for free... The way Josie talks, her mom has access to her bank account and seems to be in control of how they're using the money, not that Josie can't access it, but her mom seems be her accountant. If Fishtank never happened they'd still be buying her vapes and alcohol so she could drunkenly apply to shitty jobs and do whatever she does all day.

Not that this is necessarily bad, they're probably trying to make her happy to avoid previous issues.
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On spending money, it sounds like Josie has almost never had to spend money on things for herself. Guy friends, online or local, have bought many things you see in her room. Her personal plush in Fishtank? A gift from her friend Gio who went with her to Anime Expo and is the one who drove her to Dave & Busters every week before the show. I think every fumo she has is a gift, and they're not cheap. She has expensive figurines that were gifted in the display case. The coveted DDR pass she has on her lanyard was a gift from Winston, I think. Her old computer used parts from a friend's computer after he upgraded.
Since streaming, she's used that Throne wishlist to get simps to buy a bunch of comparable nonsense. She pays them back with acknowledgment and it works wonders.

Credit where it's due, she has used stream money to improve her streams and is very receptive to feedback. Her pre-Fishtank purchases were cheap and she's taken care of them for years.
 
Letty streamed out of nowhere on Kick last night, she said it was a secret stream because she feels "pressure" on YouTube and wanted to ease back into streaming.

https://kick.com/video/060dd54e-91f3-4923-b813-3f6a313ab131

  • She didn't announce it on Twitter until she retweeted someone else saying she was live.
  • She made I think about $200? Which is a lot considering she had a really small audience for most of it, it was mostly her well-known Chuds.
  • She mentioned that she has some sort of next step in her ongoing legal thing later this week (presumably with Jeremy but for the record she just said it was a legal thing)
  • She had an issue with Streamlabs and literally said something like "You guys can get in the call, I'm having an issue" and suddenly like 3 different dudes' voices started up in the stream telling her how to fix it. I dunno if they were her chuds, probably they were the Discord friends she has.
  • She accidentally revealed some of her room behind her backdrop and it looked insanely messy, and said she is planning to do a video tour of her messy room and then a before and after she cleans it.
  • Chat brought up Vance miming hitting her in the head with a bat, she said something like "would you do that to Josie? What did I do to you?"
  • They also asked her if Chris or Damiel scared her more, she basically said Damiel being not autistic and seeming malicious and calculated made him scarier, but she was more afraid of Chris hurting her.
  • She said she will try to stream tomorrow also and that she "owes it to herself" to keep to a schedule even if streaming isn't the only thing she wants to do.
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https://archive.is/ABulu

Letty Leaks returns..
As has been established time and time again, Letty is a manipulative and unreliable narrator. She used Jeremy, she leeches off the Canadian government, and she lies to her fans. Recognizing this was never a difficult matter. She doesn't have the emotional capacity to understand concepts like compassion or empathy, and whenever she hurts people all that concerns her is whether or not she can twist the situation to make herself look like a victim. I ran a fairly prominent Twitter account where I reiterated these facts to those who were willing to listen, and many were, Letty was not exactly popular during her time in the Fishtank. Yet many fell victim to her manipulative tactics, as she lied about her fellow contestants and constantly twisted situations where she was the aggressor into making it look like she was the one being wronged. These men were regarded as the most mentally ill and unhinged of the entire Fishtank fanbase, disgustingly debasing themselves for a vile whore who relies on deception and manipulation to have others support her lazy, sedentary lifestyle of whoring herself out on Discord and trying to convince men online that she's "based" while she spreads hateful misandry against hardworking men who she relies on to avoid homelessness because of her lack of desire to be a functioning member of society. Completely opposite to her, Josie is a shining beacon of honesty and innocence, and her subtle basedness endeared the entire internet, meaning it was no surprise when she won in the end. However, what disgusted me and many other people was Sam Hyde's embarrassing prostration to Letty's alter, constantly coddling her by putting her in unlosable situations and putting up synthetic barriers that she could easily cruise past because the game was always rigged for her to get ahead. Instead of heeding Jeremy's warnings that Letty is a liar who ruins the lives of any men who let her in, he bought into her victim narrative and would not allow a word to get in of her true nature. Sam Hyde betrayed his principles to simp for a vile whore, and even when he was forced into a position where he couldn't allow her to win the grand prize, he gave an embarrassing, tearful speech where he admitted that he couldn't bring himself to cause any true harm to Letty despite her being the only truly abhorrent person in the tank, and instead decided that it would be better to do "bits" with her because of her knack for "subtlety" and talented "acting". This, of course, was an entirely deranged and career ruining display, as anyone who watched the show could tell that Letty was exactly what she presented herself to be, a subversive whore with no respect for the men who work so that she can do nothing but bitch about misogyny online while using men for personal gain. He refused to say a positive word about Josie, who had to work to earn her prize, and instead demanded that she say positive things about Letty, something that a girl with a hardcoded sense of morality undoubtedly found difficult to do. Sam has never gained back the respect from his fans after what he did for Letty, many feel that giving her $20k after being the most sensitive, least resilient person in the tank was beyond the pale and goes against the right wing principles he regularly espoused for his fans, and they are correct. As I scroll through my Twitter feed, I saw a DM from Tacxin, one of Sam Hyde's faggot wiggers and Letty's ex-boyfriend, who had been privy to some of her most intimate conversations. I was weary of him, as I had gathered that him and Letty were in a relationship from the way they interacted after she left the tank, and I thought he might have been trolling me to get back at me for talking shit about his girlfriend. However, talking to him showed me that he had a genuine hatred for her, and felt like she had used him the same way she used Jeremy. He told me that he wanted to share leaks of her private communications to prove that she secretly hates her fans. He said that he had evidence that Letty has been lying to her followers all along, and that she only cares about herself and her own interests. He wanted me to spread the word about his discovery, and I was more than willing to do so. Afterwards, he sent me a zip file with Letty's private conversations and secretly recorded audio of them having *** during a house party. He tells me that he wants me to share the leaks with the world, as he believes that Letty's fans deserve to know the truth about her. I am hesitant at first, as I'm aware of the reputation Letty fans have for being aggressive and violent, but Tacxin assured me that he had a game plan in mind for me to initially post them anonymously, and then as the leaks gain steam, create a unified front with me, himself, and Betty, who was well aware of our plans and contributed her own DM conversations to the zip file as she was shocked by the casual way Letty expressed her hatred of her fans, and even Sam Hyde, to her. I take a deep breath and begin to share the leaks on a new Twitter account that I created, called LettyLeaks. The images show that Letty has been talking to her friends behind the scenes, admitting that she only uses her fans for attention and that she doesn't care about anything but herself. She even goes so far as to say that she hates her fans, and that she only pretends to be based to get what she wants. There was a lot of speculation about their legitimacy, which I expected. Despite how blatant it was that Letty wrote the messages that were leaked, along with the screenshots of their private DM group that were taken by a confidant of hers, there was still enough plausible deniability because of a lack of direct evidence. I knew that was going to happen, that's why I worked on the game plan with Tacxin for him to be the one to reveal that the DMs were real. But then something unexpected happened. Tacxin got back together with Letty, which left the legitimacy of the leaked conversations up in the air. It appeared as though Tacxin was only using me to get back at Letty because of some sort of personal dispute, and he never truly cared about the damage she was causing to the mental stability of her fans and her lying and manipulation. I was angry, betrayed, and disappointed in Tacxin's actions, and I felt like he had taken advantage of my trust. I took to Twitter to voice my frustration, and I leaked more of Letty's leaked conversations. I wanted to make it clear that, even though Tacxin had gotten back together with Letty, the evidence still stood and Letty's fans deserved to know the truth about her. But my message was lost in the sea of online drama and negativity, and I felt like the work I had done to expose Letty was all for nothing. To make matters worse, Betty deleted all of her DMs with me on Discord and stopped responding to my messages. It was like she had disappeared off the face of the earth, leaving me feeling frustrated and lacking in a clear direction to move in. It was clear that she didn't want to be associated with the leaks anymore and wanted to distance herself from the situation as much as possible. It was hard not to take it personally, as I felt that Betty was not only letting me down, but also everyone who had supported the cause of exposing Letty. It made me question who I could trust and whether I was naive in my judgments of people's character. Later, Betty degraded herself by sucking up to Sam after he had kicked her off his show for exposing Letty's sexual deviancy, as well as posting **** videos of herself online, including one of her dumping piss on her head, proving to me that Betty is simply unstable and therefore was never someone I should have relied on to help me expose Letty. Ultimately, I ran out of leaks to post and had no way to prove any of my claims to Letty's mentally ill fanbase, so I got rid of my account and moved on. I was already angered and disappointed by Tacxin and Betty's decision to go back on their word, but little did I know that things were about to take an even darker turn. As the days passed, I began receiving hateful messages and comments on my social media accounts. At first, I assumed it was just the usual online trolls trying to provoke a reaction, as well as aggrieved Letty fans who were still mad at me for speaking openly about her true nature. However, something felt off about these messages. They were filled with personal information about me, things that only a few people knew. I decided to dig deeper into the identities of these accounts and soon discovered that they were all connected to Tacxin and Betty by the language they used and the pieces of information I revealed about myself to them specifically and nobody else. It became clear that they were the ones behind these attacks, using sockpuppet accounts to bully and harass me. The betrayal I felt deepened as I realized that they were not only ignoring their promise but actively working against me. The harassment didn't end online. One day, as I was going through my email, I noticed a strangely written message, with an innocuous header but numerous spelling mistakes. Curiosity got the better of me, and I opened it, only to find a disturbing message inside. It was a threat, filled with explicit language and intent to harm me. The shock and fear that ran through me were overwhelming. I couldn't believe that they would go to such lengths to intimidate and frighten me. The mental toll of the situation began to weigh heavily on me. I couldn't focus on anything else. The constant harassment and the fear of what might come next took a toll on my mental well-being. Every time my phone buzzed with a notification, I felt a mix of dread and anxiety. I questioned my own safety and wondered if it was worth continuing the fight against Letty and her manipulative ways. I wanted to go public with all of this, however the sockpuppet accounts would frequently disappear as soon as they were created, and the emails and text messages I received were from temporary emails and online texting websites. In a fit of rage, I messaged Tacxin on a Twitter alt, threatening to reveal everything I knew about their involvement in the leaked information. To my surprise, he responded with an offer to make a deal. They promised to never contact me or try to interfere in my life again if I agreed to keep quiet about the details of our interactions and never spoke badly about Letty again. It was a difficult decision to make, but I ultimately decided to accept their offer, eager to put the whole ordeal behind me. However, this only lasted for a few weeks, as I had noticed that Letty had seemingly disappeared from the internet as she had only just recently established a streaming schedule, as well as people from her community mentioning that she had been completely ghosting them and stopped posting in their private DM group. It reminded me that this bitch lacks anything resembling a sense of morality, she had fans who emotionally relied on her for happiness and her priority was doing ketamine with her faggot boyfriend Tacxin. I understand that I need to look out for my own safety, but it would be irresponsible for me to allow more men to have their lives ruined by this lazy feminist piece of shit. Despite the toll all of this has taken on my mental health, I don't think it would be helpful to stop my efforts against Letty's manipulation towards her fanbase, so I'm going to relaunch LettyLeaks soon. There are new confidants I have who I feel are much more reliable and share my passion towards justice for men who have been led astray by BPD women. They know Letty and all of her tricks, and can help me launch a much more successful rollout of LettyLeaks that can hopefully bring more Letty fans over to my side and bring down Letty's streaming career. Even though some might argue that it's better for me to leave them out to dry, I'm aware that most of these men are young and lacking in direction in life, which makes me sympathetic to them. I consider this to be an important mission, and one that I won't be threatened into giving up. I'm thankful for all the anons on /bant/ who appreciate what I've done to expose Letty, and never bought into the lies that my leaks were fake. They were real, and so are the leaks that are coming up. Thank you for your time.
If any part of the substance of this is not a complete fabrication, which I doubt, then to me it reads like Taxcin and a bunch of other people gaslit the fuck out of this guy pretending to be on board so he would run as the vanguard for a conspiracy theory and get cringed out of existence.
Of course the simpler explanation is that it's some retarded kid who thinks saying "I got a DM from Letty saying she eats poop, no you can't see it" is going to get over.

Damiel uploaded this on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/therealdamiel/status/1686295769362616320?s=20



I'm so irony poisoned regarding Damiel that even listening to recording where he sounds this rough and is talking about his friend "getting smoked" and waiting for him in the ICU to see if he pulls through I'm still not sure if he's fucking around.
edit: Wigger Chris retweeted it so I guess it's real, sucks.
 
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I don't mean keeping a tight lid, I mean sheltering her from responsibilities
Yeah I agree. It seems like Josie didn't have many IRL friends growing up so having the Internet as a surrogate definitely did a number on her pubescent brain. I don't envy the position parents are in right now, their Zoomer and Alpha kids are less social, more mentally unstable, less motivated, addicted to social media. I wouldn't even know where to start if I had a daughter like Josie. I guess trying to keep her employed at shitty jobs and numb with nicotine and booze isn't an awful idea when the alternatives can be much worse for young women. At least she's at home most of the day and safe

Lucky for her she got a huge opportunity to put her life together and she seems to be taking full advantage of it, but there are tens of thousands of kids in her exact position that might never get the chance or motivation to live a normal life. It's hard not to feel bad for young people in such shitty situations

Letty streamed out of nowhere on Kick last night, she said it was a secret stream because she feels "pressure" on YouTube and wanted to ease back into streaming.
Hopefully she gets her mind right and realizes the pressure of streaming is easier to deal with than the depressing reality of the Discord NEET life
 
After a quick search, the only tweet with a link to that shit is this:
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I don't know if this dude has been brought up in the thread before but he is a legit weirdo. He was a very active member in Betty's discord that was banned for debating the morality of dating 16 year olds while being 21 (why do so many retards chose to die on that hill?). After that he became a Betty hater. He's actually the one that leaked the piss play video on twitter. He's 33 years old. We can all imagine what the life of a 33 year old discord dweller looks like, right?

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The dude he is quoting is a Betty discord mod (imagine the smell). I guess it's likely that he is also "Dark Lord" from the 1st screenshot, whatever

This doesnt't necessarily confirm that he is LettyLeaks, but I'd say he's involved. The way he drags Betty into this, given the grudge he holds against her...
In my previous post weeks ago I said that the group chat screenshot gave validity to the dm screens. Now I'm thinking that I jumped the gun. Him claiming that there's an audio of Letty and Tacx fucking is just retarded beyond salvation.
LettyLeaks did not do much after the tweets that where shared in the thread. He boasted about getting Laurapalmer off of the Internet (he didn't, Laurapalmer himself replied to him and is just as involved with Letty today as he was before) and announced that later that day he would post the sex audio. He deactivated instead.

And If we go through his rant, it's quite bullshitty. He says that he started posting leaks when Tacx, who at the time "hated Letty", gave him material. This is weird, because the account was created on June 30th, tweeted thrice about the purpose of the account and deactivated on July 1st (there's a screenshot confirming this in page 1231, plus a tweet of Laurapalmer commenting on the acocunt going dark in the spoiler below). Then came back on July 5th and began actually posting screenshots. Tacxs was in Letty's stream on July 2nd...
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He also exaggerates the content of the supposed leaks, saying that Letty admits that she hates her followers, and straight up lies when he says that she admits to fake "being based" for the streams (she doesn't comment on this in any convo). All the leaks that the account posted are archived in this thread and can be checked. I do wonder why he lies about something that I believe he forged, but then again he's clearly retarded.

Also lol @ him painting himself as a suffering victim.
 
Hopefully she gets her mind right and realizes the pressure of streaming is easier to deal with than the depressing reality of the Discord NEET life
Streaming is unlikely to do much for any of the fish long term, including Josie. Letty should be looking at real jobs and use streaming for fun and a quick buck.

Josie is increasingly using her Youtube member tab as a place to blog and she sperged today.
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In her last stream she mentioned that her door was broken and that she fixed it with hot glue. The "cloppin" is referring to her being physically active in her last stream, taking advantage of the room cam.
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Updates...

Tyson streamed last night but since he doesn't have a twitter there was some uproar that everyone missed it.

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Found this on Twitter, the only frame of the stream that exists...
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Mauro posted this and deleted it
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Sylvia streamed last night, I can tell you the vibe of the stream but I don't think you will feel it unless you open the video and page through it, especially early on. It is MISERABLE. I don't have the same kind of full-on antagonism towards her I had during the show because it's not a competition anymore so her presence is not subtracting from anyone else, so instead of being laughable this is just sort of upsetting.

She even apologized on twitter afterwards for how bad it was, and then deleted it, and I didn't archive it because I'm retarded.
She said she had her interview with Rez TKF earlier that week and thought it would bring her out of a funk but it made it worse, because she was not especially healed by talking about wiping her ass with Letty's clothes and was hurt that Rez "got some things wrong."
I'm not a psychiatrist but I feel like I can read some minds here...
Sylvia definitely thought she came off differently during the show than she actually did. I think she thought she was getting over and that she wasn't disproportionately unpopular. Rez is the first person she has had this kind of long-form conversation with about the show and I bet he inadvertently ripped some band-aids off.
I said before her chat was sort of aggressive last time I watched her stream, this time they were actually back to trolling her, fully back to how it was when the show just ended.
It reminds me of the poll that went up when they unleashed TTS on Sylvia, it was like, "There's blood in the water...." I don't even remember what the options were, but it spoke to Sylvia's bad habit of soldiering when she's weak and pretending she isn't projecting the image of a wounded deer in front of an audience of wolves.


Betty took drastic action against her schizophrenic troll Skull Hyde (previously mentioned in this thread, yesterday accused by @Thillo Thon of being Letty Leaks)
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Letty started a stream at 5 AM today, wrapped at 8 AM, returned at 12 PM and wrapped at 4 PM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsdQLeAs0ag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsDXcpDQ0zU

I feel that you would not want to watch 7 hours of streaming, so this is the time code for what I would consider "salient" for this thread, even though it goes for about an hour
https://youtu.be/MsDXcpDQ0zU?t=3502
  • She touches on something she calls the "10 Step Gaslight Jon Plan" which was apparently something invented during Jon's return that was entirely behind the scenes
  • Talks about how the way she was always the one to get fucked with by freeloaders got stale, feels like working with Frank was a refreshing change and she wanted it to go on for a week
  • Describes late night on Day 25 when she and Frank were teaming up against Vance & Sylvia from her perspective and basically mocks Vance and Sylvia for getting fucked with for once on that night
  • Says she feels weird about being expected to have a social media presence when she only ever lurked before
  • Says the other members of the cast formed cliques and "Lord of the Flies" biases against her and would retroactively justify themselves in ways that were hypocritical just because of the context of the show, says that Chris would not assault people in a normal situation but he felt justified because of her role as a villain
Lastly, she said next week she is going back to Rhode Island but explicitly said it was not for anything to do with the MDE crew but for something legal.
I am not a Jeremy historian but why would she be going to Rhode Island if it was about Jeremy? Surely any hearings related to that wouldn't go down in Rhode Island?
 
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Lastly, she said next week she is going back to Rhode Island but explicitly said it was not for anything to do with the MDE crew but for something legal.
I am not a Jeremy historian but why would she be going to Rhode Island if it was about Jeremy? Surely any hearings related to that wouldn't go down in Rhode Island?
Did she say she'd be in "Rhode Island" or in the area? I don't think she's going to be in Rhode Island for legal stuff but it'd be trivial to stop by if she wanted.
7 hours of streaming is wild, I guess it makes up for her hiatus a bit, hopefully it helped with the anxiety she has from streaming. I don't think someone who hates streaming will do it for that long so assume she gets more out of it than money.

Sad that Tyson's stream is lost, if I knew I would have pounced on it. Notify me if he ever puts any on Twitter or anywhere else, I'll grab them.
 
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Did she say she'd be in "Rhode Island" or in the area? I don't think she's going to be in Rhode Island for legal stuff but it'd be trivial to stop by if she wanted.
7 hours of streaming is wild, I guess it makes up for her hiatus a bit, hopefully it helped with the anxiety she has from streaming. I don't think someone who hates streaming will do it for that long so assume she gets more out of it than money.

Sad that Tyson's stream is lost, if I knew I would have pounced on it. Notify me if he ever puts any on Twitter or anywhere else, I'll grab them.
The superchat asked if she would be back in Rhode Island and that's what she said yes to. I'd dig it up right now but I don't have time, I'm pretty sure it's in the last 20-15 minutes of the second half of her stream. I'm as confused as you, and the shit with Sam talking about lawyers and Mauro talking about being sued just has me completely clueless. I 100% don't think any of them are connected but it's all so weird.

Letty said something like how she was basically just trying to launch herself out of feeling awkward and shy by doing this, and that she was streaming at odd hours and not announcing to ease the pressure of it somewhat.
Personally I think that's all placebo, she had 150-200 viewers the whole time she was live so I can't imagine feeling some kind of new, crushing pressure if she was sitting at 400 viewers instead. But I guess if it works for her, it works.
She definitely said pretty explicitly a few times that streaming is not like a long term thing for her the same way Vance has said the same, that he wants to mostly use the stream to launch off the music he wants to make, and listed off some pretty random concepts for what she would actually want to do. So I guess maybe it's a good holding pattern for her before she decides where to go.

And yeah as far as I'm aware there wasn't even a pre-stream waiting thingy on YouTube for Tyson's stream so it's sort of hopeless, if he ever does this kind of out of the blue thing again.
 
  • Says the other members of the cast formed cliques and "Lord of the Flies" biases against her and would retroactively justify themselves in ways that were hypocritical just because of the context of the show, says that Chris would not assault people in a normal situation but he felt justified because of her role as a villain
I believe the reason why Sam gave Letty 15k when he had no contractual obligation to at end of the show was he knew how much shit she got for playing the villain of the show and he felt bad about it. Sam and Jet played a large role in riling up the audience and other Fish against her. They encouraged it. Without a bad guy the finale would have been terrible and boring. I think Sam knew how important Letty's role was and he rewarded her for helping to make Fishtank great. Pretty sure he even says something to that effect during the finale speech in the living room.
 
To the Rhode Island superchat that @Aidan and @Punitive Castration metioned, Letty answered: "Yeah, I'm gonna be around that area next week. For a little bit. I'm not gonna do anything with MDE, though. It's not, like, for MDE, it's for legal stuff".

Jeremy lives in New Hampshire per info in this thread, wich I guess falls under the "area" comment.
In her Kick stream she stated that she wasn't getting sued, after she brought up her legal stuff coming up and a viewer explicitly asked. Personally I believe it's a Jeremy thing plus quick visit to RI, but who knows.
 
Josie is doing her planned IG Live at Round 1 right now. I think I've seen every major weirdo and she only just got going. I'm recording it though my internet is acting up, I'm sure a better recording will surface and as usual I'll link it. If you ever doubted her autism (which she doesn't have), it's on full display when she gets into rhythm games.

Interestingly, views started in the high 180s and she's dropped nearly 30 as of typing this. I don't normally pay attention to IG views but I find it odd people would follow her, tune into her stream, and leave upon seeing it's her usual type of stream.

edit: Jet showed up in chat. He did that for her last Youtube stream and previous IG stream, I wonder how much he actually watches.
When she noticed him she just said, "Hello Jet" and carried on.
A minute later he says she's breaking NDA right now and she said she isn't and kept talking about Round 1 prizes. It's funny how he's just another person in chat at this point.
 
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I believe the reason why Sam gave Letty 15k when he had no contractual obligation to at end of the show was he knew how much shit she got for playing the villain of the show and he felt bad about it. Sam and Jet played a large role in riling up the audience and other Fish against her. They encouraged it. Without a bad guy the finale would have been terrible and boring. I think Sam knew how important Letty's role was and he rewarded her for helping to make Fishtank great. Pretty sure he even says something to that effect during the finale speech in the living room.
I think I said this before in the thread but there was a moment I caught just after Letty's... I feel awkward phrasing it this way but there's no other way around it... just after Letty left the cell on the final day for a bathroom break in B4, threw up, and told Jet her period started and sent him to find menstrual products for her. Jet pulled Sam into the hall bathroom and most of what was said wasn't audible but I definitely 100% heard Sam say "If Letty loses..." Which really puts a weird filter on how I think the events of the finale played out.

I don't really think it was a pity play, it could be seen that way but it was more just that Letty really deserved a grand prize for her role while Josie would not have been given one if she placed second instead. I think if it had already been the plan to give the second-place winner $20k (it was $20k plus fishbucks) he wouldn't have had to tell Jet what he wanted done in the event that Letty loses, on the last day. And furthermore it's possible Sam didn't actually expect Letty to lose, or else he just made the decision to give either fish in second place $20k at the very last second, which actually seems less likely to me than him shifting his plan for Letty. They also said they had to prepare the second-place check last minute which is why it was just a roll of paper and not on a cardboard thingy, and if they knew they were giving prizes to both of them, they would have just had two of the cardboard things ready.

Now that I think about it though, it might just have been "if Letty loses we need to tell her we're going to do something weird for the ending so she doesn't play into the bit and trip us up." Who knows.
To the Rhode Island superchat that @Aidan and @Punitive Castration metioned, Letty answered: "Yeah, I'm gonna be around that area next week. For a little bit. I'm not gonna do anything with MDE, though. It's not, like, for MDE, it's for legal stuff".

Jeremy lives in New Hampshire per info in this thread, wich I guess falls under the "area" comment.
In her Kick stream she stated that she wasn't getting sued, after she brought up her legal stuff coming up and a viewer explicitly asked. Personally I believe it's a Jeremy thing plus quick visit to RI, but who knows.
Thanks for pulling it up and for the reminder about where Jeremy is. That definitely makes more sense. I was totally confused.


edit: Oh yeah. I thought of another note from the Letty stream you guys would wanna hear about. She said that FT was described to her as a show where the staff do pranks and the contestants do pranks and therefore launched into the plan to shake the baby without any particular doubts. And then was surprised and confused when both the audience, AND the contestants, regarded that as an unwelcome interruption of the wholesome parasocial friendship show, especially when everyone involved signed up to participate and watch a Sam Hyde show. And that it weighed heavily into how she became a villain to the other fish, because she was the first to interrupt the general peace of the house.

I just thought it was interesting that she rejected the friendship simulator period of the show by name and saw herself as seriously trying to end it.
 
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The few decent freeloaders were largely nobodies, and I prefer it that way. It makes things unpredictable.
A big issue with the Freeloaders were so many of them were on for such a short time they were completely forgettable. Can you name a single thing Emplemon did? How about Ella? How about Brandon Buckingham? Turkey Tom? Do you even remember Turkey Tom was on the show?

The Freeloaders I thought were the funniest and who were memorable:
  1. Simon - Genuinely funny and all around nice guy. A decent comedian and good at freestyling.
  2. Lance - Funny high energy dude who worked well with Vance. Honestly is more interesting a person then Vance too.
  3. Chris - Grating but worked extremely well for drama and shit stirring. He saved the last half of the show imo
  4. Alex Stein and Dantrius - Alex is a funny guy and so is Dantrius. The crack bit was great.
  5. Vito (Chris's clone) - Fat dudes are funny
 
Jet showed up in chat. He did that for her last Youtube stream and previous IG stream, I wonder how much he actually watches.
When she noticed him she just said, "Hello Jet" and carried on.
A minute later he says she's breaking NDA right now and she said she isn't and kept talking about Round 1 prizes. It's funny how he's just another person in chat at this point.
I've been in Fishtank-like situations where I was working, eating, and going out with the same people every day because of certain jobs I've had before. It's very easy to form really intense bonds quickly when you're around the same people every single day for 12 or more hours, but when that 4 month period of work is done and everyone goes home it's just as easy to lose touch with those people because you fall back into your normal life and your normal routines and those people aren't a part of any of that

I bet a lot of the fish and the producers really care for each other but life gets in the way of maintaining those bonds. Plus Josie is self-admittedly bad at talking and responding to people so it makes sense that she's just prioritizing her old social circle again
 
I just wanted to bring this up again cuz I didn't document it fully before...
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Rare Mauro W

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I'm 98% sure he's just doing a gaslight for the second time in his life, it's just surprising that it's taken off because I've seen more than a few people hounding other fish for information about it.

anyway time to break it down
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schizophrenia
I stopped reading this after he started comparing Letty directly to Josie letting me know it's just some mentally ill guy who is trying to continue this "war" of two retarded e-girls who were on a funny experimental show. Maybe i'm just too disconnected from other zoomers but I really cannot understand how people are this obsessed with these people, they aren't lolcows and josie is the only one who seems to be given these guys some attention.
 
I stopped reading this after he started comparing Letty directly to Josie letting me know it's just some mentally ill guy who is trying to continue this "war" of two retarded e-girls who were on a funny experimental show. Maybe i'm just too disconnected from other zoomers but I really cannot understand how people are this obsessed with these people, they aren't lolcows and josie is the only one who seems to be given these guys some attention.
As far as I can tell, it's not zoomers who are obsessed, it's 30+ year old men.

Speaking of, she shifted her member's stream from Wednesday to Thursday since she was invited to hang out with her friends Wednesday. 3 hours ago she put out a member's post saying it'll be later.
members stream will probably be later than usual. I have sum stuff i got to do today =_=
I anticipate no stream and this is preemptively softening the blow.

Update: Recent comments.
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Update2: Her merch store is up at https://sheepxing.com/ (archive)
3 items available right now, one of them is the lanyard she wears. She had to get 30, as I recall, so she could have 1 for herself. Quavo shirts are $30. She said each shirt had 15 to start.
I added everything to the cart to check quantities.
ItemDescriptionPriceStock
SmallIt's Quavo onna shirt... What more could you want??$3014
Medium$3014
Large$3010
XL$306
LanyardIt's just like the one I always wear!!? Be more like me!$1511
Sticker3"x3" Waterproof stickers. Slap em' anywhere and rep the GANG.$360


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She's doing her secret stream so I guessed wrong.
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I stopped reading this after he started comparing Letty directly to Josie letting me know it's just some mentally ill guy who is trying to continue this "war" of two retarded e-girls who were on a funny experimental show. Maybe i'm just too disconnected from other zoomers but I really cannot understand how people are this obsessed with these people, they aren't lolcows and josie is the only one who seems to be given these guys some attention.
As far as Letty is concerned I think she finally reached a healthy detachment from her chuds, there was a post saying that while she was on her two week break their GC went inactive and even though she is back now, somewhat, they all seemed a lot more sober. I think they recognized she doesn't like the pressure or the exaggerated attention when she already has anxiety.

Also not to braid some Real Shit into a commentary of internet dumbasses but @Moviege79692026 AKA Letty's Knight passed away today, or very recently. It was already known he was sick and had previously been away for some serious medical procedure so this wasn't expected but it was a possibility.

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This paragraph is me being a person and saying, yeah, that sucks, and I'm glad he found some entertainment he was really passionate about while he was going through it at the end, and that he was able to watch it to completion and be recognized by the community before he went.

This is me being a retard: this is the kind of event that makes people stop the bit and start acting like regular people, I hope everyone is more normal from here on towards Letty now that the guy who wrote the book on cringy Letty simping has passed.


Tangentially - as far as why I'm keeping up with everyone on Kiwifarms, it's because every week there's a spat or a meltdown and it's good to have the context, oh, Tyson hates Mauro even though they never met, or Betty and Sylvia are friends even though Betty has bad blood with everyone else...There's a few time bombs that I'm expecting to go off and everyone will be glad to have had the context when they inevitably do.
Also because I think it's agreed that the show is the first half of the competition, and the second half is seeing if the losers can unloser themselves. Vance hasn't released the album that he said he would release "soon" and has only uploaded one video and it's unclear what his 9-5 is and if it's different from delivery driving, Sylvia's album drops later this month and it's not going to get the amazing reception she expects, Letty got to write for WP2 which is a boost compared to the rest but not a huge one because she hasn't done shit since, Jon says he's got a "team" making a "platform" and has his whole loans shit and it's impossible to gauge what he's actually doing and if it's anything good, Josie's not sorting trash and is making OK money on streaming but not "retire on it" income, Damiel is still doing hella drugs, and Mauro is still a lolcow. It'll be interesting to see by the release of the doc who has actually turned their time in the tank into something sustainable and good.

Ok ok look, right now KF isn't working on clearnet so odds are the anally prolapsed taco nigger will give up before trying to find this thread, but
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Listen: Tyson mentioned us when he was making fun of you, and yet he did not have the balls to post here. It's 100% agreed on Kiwifarms that if you post in your own thread, you cease to be a lolcow and we all agree to leave you alone. Outman Lance and tell us what's up, faggot.

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You sick son of a bitch, don't wish that on us

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