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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 56 7.3%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 87 11.4%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 169 22.1%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 405 53.0%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.2%

  • Total voters
    764
💀 Lads, it is grim.

Letty back on Kick again today at 6 AM.
I remember when I compared Letty to Goocheese in the sneedchat... some of that came out today but I mean that in a nice way, if that's possible...

She started already a little drunk, and said she would do a stream to raise money to contribute to Moviege's funeral, seemed overly formal-to-indifferent or joking about how she felt about it ("Letty' Knight dying has sent me an unhinged spiral because he was my twin flame"/"Letty is fucked out of her mind because she's sad about LK dying!") at first, but then downed a whole bottle of Bailey's. She watched a few minutes of Ice Poseidon, said she was looking for retarded lolcows and pulled up three different women who were streaming fortnite on Kick, and told them to play with her NOW, except that she was either drunk or else as I've previously observed is incapable of typing straight so it was more like "frtnite now let's play play with lttey plag play with lttyvision on kcik". When they banned her she called them retarded bitches.
One of her discord papas joined the call and said "Nina how are you holding up" because he didn't know she was live, she snapped at him, and he apologized to her for "dropping the n-bomb."
She boldly said she would switch to YouTube at 9ish because she thought she had sobered up or could larp as sober, and then immediately almost said nigger (nnneighbor) while playing Fortnite. She started nodding off and really, really slurring, her alarm went off twice and she left it on for 15 minutes and had a tab echoing her voice for over an hour. Every single person in her audience voted her to sleep when she asked if she should stop and she said, "okay, I'll wait for another vote to see if I should go to sleep" and then "I'll wait until (one of the streamers she just trolled) says I should sleep." And when everyone in the call said to stop she started blatantly guilt tripping everyone (I don't say that lightly, she was doing it deliberately) in a defeated voice for telling her to stop streaming when she is "having fun". Their response: you don't sound like you're having fun at all.


It got to the point of all of the guys in her Discord strongarming her and saying if she won't nap, just stop playing Fortnite and talk to them. She admitted she wasn't tired at all, just feeling crappy about Letty's Knight. She and everyone in the call admitted they cried about it together in a call yesterday and they all credited him for making a community for her and for breaking the ice around supporting her that ShirtWasCash, Sam, and Jet were forming. There was lots of moments of people joining the call and everyone asking how they're doing. Her mood definitely improved a ton from there I guess just from the relief of finally discussing it, and she talked about how she's going to do her best for him; that he didn't know her, just a jumble of her character on FT, but he supported what she symbolized to him and that she wants to embody it.

They also talked about how the MDE community is weird for reacting so negatively to her and positively to Josie, her chuds kind of ran away with it but Letty's take was that she talks in a stilted way when she is nervous which made the other fish wary of her from the start. She said that "old MDE" would support a villain but new MDE is too misogynistic to support her even though she empathizes with the right wing.

Jeremy also came up, she said she wouldn't talk about the criminal case but replied here and there to what her chuds were saying about how 4chan used it against her, that she could get into her side where Jeremy cheated and this and that but it wouldn't change anyone's mind and they would just hear it as whining.

The stream wrapped when one of her chuds said he wanted to keep talking about LK but didn't want to do it on stream and they agreed to go offline with the rest of their conversation. Insanely, Letty said she might be back on YouTube later today anyway.

Feels like I just watched a damn movie, with the emotional peaks and lows of that stream.

edit: aaaand it's gone, who saw that coming. I'll pad this more with things I remember since there's no record anymore of it, so sorry if this is a little overly long. ftr I don't mean anything negative this time, documenting this, I can shit on people like Mauro with my whole chest but most people in this thread's chat were firmly Letty knights by the end of the show so it's more about keeping people in the loop.
 
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Are these streams a form of therapy for her and are her chuds the same as her mods? She sounds like a mess.

This may seem callous but I don't see why she should be torn up over Moviege's death, especially if he was primarily an ardent Letty Knight and had few personal interactions with her. Maybe she needs a "it's not your fault" moment to realize this.
Hope the Jeremy case goes as far in her favor as possible and she can begin to move on.

Use yt-dlp to snag vods or even streams when they're up, I assume it works on Kick.

Josie merch update
Sold out of lanyards, Large and XL. XL was the first size to sell out.
Current stock is 14/15 Small, 4/15 Medium, 26/60 stickers.

Not bad. On her secret stream someone asked about a more masculine shirt design and she said she considered that but doesn't know what to do so maybe in the future. New lanyards may be made but she is aware people like the exclusivity of the original batch so isn't sure how she might change it up, if at all. People asked about 2XL, she said it costs more to get 2XL+ so buy an XL and use it as motivation to lose weight.

Sensible merch. She mentioned getting a PO box, maybe to use as a return address and/or for fan mail. It'd make sense to continue cheap merch until the PO box expires if that's so, I'm not sure how many more shirts with fresh designs she can expect to sell, the dedicated fanbase with money seems relatively small but dedicated. If she does the usual streamer fan mail unboxing I expect some painful cringe, probably 5 packages from one person to add to her garbage plushie collection.
 
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I watched bits and pieces of the stream but had to stop at some point because it was just so sad to see her like that.
Shitfaced at 8AM. Streaming from your disheveled room in your parents house, who either don't give a fuck that you're downing a bottle of Baileys early in the morining or have just given up on you.
I've read on this thread that streaming wouldn't do any good to her moving away from her NEET lifestyle, and this stream proves that it is absolutely true, at least as of now. She really needs someone from her real life to step up and straight up coach her into a normal, sober life. She is too lazy to do anything on her own other that to live like a slob. She herself has talked a number of times about how bad it is to live like that, and yet doesn't have the drive to do anything about it. And it's a shame, she shouldn't settle with this.

I'm relieved that things seemed to get better rather than worse after I quit the stream. Hopefully she learns from this, but to be honest (and I hate to say it), I don't think this is the most likely scenario.
 
The "fame" of the Fish was, is and will be detrimental to them. They should check out from the iNTERNET for a year and focus on fixing their lives. Genuine advice. You don't need to chase for >muh clout, get a regular job (if you can) instead.
Aside from maybe stalkers, I don't see how it will hurt Vance or Josie. Both can return to their pre-Fisthank lives pretty easily and neither seem to think the "fame" will last forever.

The main reason post-tank Josie is interesting to me is to see how long she lasts or at least makes livable income doing this.
She puts in more work than expected, though the bar is low, and her social anxiety has hindered her on multiple occasions already, even today.
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Not sure who "higher up ppl" are, could be to do with Game On Expo where she has a booth in a week or her new merch. I doubt they're really "high up ppl" and are just "ppl" that would be glad to help. In any case, good to leave her non-member viewers high and dry for the 2nd time.

edit: To be clear, I'm not expecting her to last long. She has done better than expected so far but the decline is consistent.
 
Are these streams a form of therapy for her and are her chuds the same as her mods? She sounds like a mess.

This may seem callous but I don't see why she should be torn up over Moviege's death, especially if he was primarily an ardent Letty Knight and had few personal interactions with her. Maybe she needs a "it's not your fault" moment to realize this.
Hope the Jeremy case goes as far in her favor as possible and she can begin to move on.

Use yt-dlp to snag vods or even streams when they're up, I assume it works on Kick.

Josie merch update
Sold out of lanyards, Large and XL. XL was the first size to sell out.
Current stock is 14/15 Small, 4/15 Medium, 26/60 stickers.

Not bad. On her secret stream someone asked about a more masculine shirt design and she said she considered that but doesn't know what to do so maybe in the future. New lanyards may be made but she is aware people like the exclusivity of the original batch so isn't sure how she might change it up, if at all. People asked about 2XL, she said it costs more to get 2XL+ so buy an XL and use it as motivation to lose weight.

Sensible merch. She mentioned getting a PO box, maybe to use as a return address and/or for fan mail. It'd make sense to continue cheap merch until the PO box expires if that's so, I'm not sure how many more shirts with fresh designs she can expect to sell, the dedicated fanbase with money seems relatively small but dedicated. If she does the usual streamer fan mail unboxing I expect some painful cringe, probably 5 packages from one person to add to her garbage plushie collection.
As far as the why, I think a lot of it is probably empathy, she even said during the stream that she was obviously not on Twitter during his reign and missed most of what made him significant, but her chuds apparently regaled her and were breaking down over it in voice with her. She's an easily moved person, that was clear from her time in the tank, I think that has more weight than LK himself really had on her one on one.

Also she was the one fish who I would say sort of dedicated herself to a "cause"... Vance was not out there taking back the world for the white man and Sylvia was not championing a fat positive movement or anything, but Letty's die-hards turned her into a symbol for kicked-around shut-ins and I think it's brewed some odd rebel underdog tension and high emotions that would make no sense and never be present on a Josie stream or a Vance stream.

Still. Just because I can understand how she got there, drinking herself into a mess and then going Goocheesemode is a wild response. It even started as a funny idea while she was in the sweet spot of tipsy, like oh classic Letty Hassle, and then got really depressing the lower she got.
 
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The phone call had to do with a refund. Wow.
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update: Lanyard buyers will get a sticker and note to help with exclusivity.
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Letty tweeted out a short video regarding Letty's Knight aka Moviege. She says some kind words and that she wants to do a stream to raise money for the illness he had or funeral expenses if his family is okay with it.
https://twitter.com/borntopiss/status/1687656947791638528 | archive
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I didn't check /tv/ much when Kiwifarms was back up but I recall him being notorious on the Fishtank threads there during downtime. He made some absurd and funny anti-Josie posts, his timeline is fun to go down.
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Josie posted about him in her member's tab.
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I highly doubt she cried or really cares, she knows what the right thing to say is... mostly. Kinda dumb to say you won't contribute because the dead guy wouldn't want it.
 
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Do you guys think fish tank being biyearly is too much? Personally I think it should be yearly
I think it will run out of steam pretty quick. The novelty is a big part of it, I think.


One of Josie's top superchatters, allforthebit, has outed himself for a second time as being active in the 4chan threads, this time with hornyposting from her week old karaoke stream. I'm sure all of the notable names on her streams are there for the same thing as this guy. She's just another e-girl at the end of the day.
His name may be a reference to Josie's "commit to the bit" remarks she made during the show.

The clip is her drunkenly repeating that a karaoke recommendation sucks and to give her a different one.
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I can imagine feeling really upset over LK's dying if I was in her position. I thought the guy was nuts and painfully cringe but even I felt a little kick of "oh that's sad" when I heard he died, it must be pretty intense if you were the person this dying Romanian man swore his devotion to in his last days.

Plus it's not like Letty isn't fucky in the brain at the best of times, she obviously has a ton of issues and stuff she's dealing with in life so it's just one more thing on the pile.
 
God damn dude, what the fuck is going on
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Didn't see the OG but these give you the rough idea...

Also
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Letty and Damiel need a hug. they need to hug each other, even.
 
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Running the VOD premiere of Letty's July 31 Kick stream, noticed this.
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I can see why she'd want to but maybe she should show up on Josie's channel this time, Josie has already subtly prepped her viewers to be nice to guests.
 
Do you guys think fish tank being biyearly is too much? Personally I think it should be yearly
Season 2 will really determine whether Fishtank is sustainable or not. I feel like season 1 had the perfect mix of personalities and as hard as they tried to avoid it, a majority of the fish knew about MDE or at least knew what kind of shit to expect coming in. Their insistence on getting people who are completely clueless might be what kills the show. It wouldn't be entertaining to have diehard MDE schizos trying to one-up each other constantly and ruin the producer's bits, but having nothing but craigslist normies would see the show end hilariously early as the contestants decide that $20k isn't worth being mentally tortured
 
Season 2 will really determine whether Fishtank is sustainable or not. I feel like season 1 had the perfect mix of personalities and as hard as they tried to avoid it, a majority of the fish knew about MDE or at least knew what kind of shit to expect coming in. Their insistence on getting people who are completely clueless might be what kills the show. It wouldn't be entertaining to have diehard MDE schizos trying to one-up each other constantly and ruin the producer's bits, but having nothing but craigslist normies would see the show end hilariously early as the contestants decide that $20k isn't worth being mentally tortured
There's also a weird consent thing, which is definitely not something Sam normally has to consider if most people on set are instantly replaceable and only need to stick around for a day.
Sylvia mentioned during the show that she lost a few friends for agreeing to come on and while I doubt the show will actually harm their ability to get hired, it is possible. I think if Jet tries to bring people in from Craigslist completely blind, someone is going to see Jason Goldstriker walk into the house and immediately quit and warn everyone else that it's a "Nazi show." Really the only reason Mauro didn't leave sooner is because Vance, Sylvia, Letty, Josie, Damiel had zero reaction, and even Jon who wasn't a fan looked MDE up and didn't give a fuck, so Mauro probably didn't want to seem uncool.

I do think having fewer MDE contestants would result in some better/more satisfying reactions to things, like all of them except Letty seemed obsessed with "being a good sport" which is respectable but getting tilted is funnier.

edit: I keep missing the archives on deleted tweets, Twitter mobile will show you stuff but when you open it it's deleted so you don't know you shoulda archived it when you saw it. Vinny replied to Letty's moviege video saying she should have memorized it because it looks like a hostage video, Betty said something the app wouldn't show me and he replied "what?" to it and then deleted the thread.
It's a weird vibe, you know it's too far when Betty is coming to Letty's defense.
 
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It's kind of hard to say this early on if 2 seasons a year will be too much for Fishtank, but we'll find out soon enough. Sam and Jet did an interview on PKA and one of the major changes he revealed is that all contestants will need to be single, because what's a reality show without some kind of sexual shenanigans going on
 
Damiel continues to go the fuck through it...

"when you and shawty been fighting all week so you pull up to her job with some flowers"
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I guess it explains the ICU story, it's just a bullshit layer on top of him moping about breaking up with his girlfriend. Also explains why he keeps posting about being shitfaced on IG.

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He's... so bad. He has no career in this.


Sylvia's dad never saw Frank shirtless, I guess
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Vance played in Bellingham
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His secret stream got big views (relatively for him) tonight because he unintentionally started it on the heels of Josie signing off. He got a new kitten named Ghost to go along with his first cat Jit, and someone in the chat scolded him for gathering cats instead of breeding white children to secure a future for the white race. The album he kept saying would drop "soon" is apparently held up because he needs to record the drums and can't do it with what he has at home.

Jon is an animal


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Lastly, I miraculously was able to recover the Letty griefstream from the other day. The video is 4 hours long so maybe don't watch it all but the highlights are

1:34:00 Letty starts opening other Kick streams and causing problems on purpose. The first woman she does it to is worth watching because she flips out and starts shouting about misogyny.
2:30:00 unwatchable Fortnite play starts.
3:16:00 peak of unwatchable Fortnite, Letty falls asleep in her seat for a moment
3:37:00 the Chuds force Letty to stop playing fortnite and talk. Everything from here to the end is worth watching compared to the rest.


edit: lastly, this is only vaguely related, but I don't think we ever confirmed Ella's name was actually Ella. or whether it was a joke to play into her similarity to transgender porn actor Jean "Ella" Hollywood, who was accused yesterday of sending pornography to minors on Discord.
 

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